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  1. #741
    Hydra
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    Bonechewer

    Do some quests.

  2. #742
    Absolute Messenger of Promathia
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    Blaise Destin
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    Sargatanas
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    Asura

    Beaten to death but i've never been a SAM =.

    Sea Gorgets any good to Y/G/K? If yes, What amount of STR would be required to beat Gorget?

    If no, What amount of STR would be required to beat gorget D:!

  3. #743
    MOOSE VOUCHER
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    Fenrir
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    Tichondrius

    Anyone ever see a Cure trigger !! ? On undead mobs, of course.

  4. #744
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Beaten to death but i've never been a SAM =.

    Sea Gorgets any good to Y/G/K? If yes, What amount of STR would be required to beat Gorget?

    If no, What amount of STR would be required to beat gorget D:!
    Yes, depends but the main point is that there's no neck with enough STR to compete.

  5. #745
    Banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrp View Post
    How can i build fame fast in Abyssea?
    Very experimental methods, but I'd recommend either:

    A) selling your soul in a pact with the devil

    or

    B) discovering a magic lamp

    Spoiler: show
    La Theine - Unbreak His Heart 50x to cap
    Konschtat - Do Hope Blooms on the Battlefield -> Of Malnourished Martellos -> Refuel and Replenish -> 24x The Soul of the Matter to cap.
    Tahrongi - About 30-35x Weapons, Not Worries will unlock For Love of a Daughter. Completing that 5x for the abyssite unlocks When Good Cardians go Bad. More bones if you want true fame cap for some reason.
    Misareaux - 30x Smoke Over The Coast with +3 sausage to cap
    Vunkerl - 20x A Ward to End All Wards or 8x (heavy) The Boxwatcher's Behest to get access to both abyssite quests. More of either if you want Jester's Hat one.
    Attohwa - Threadbare Tribulations until fame 2(I know, gross.) Flown The Coop/Looking for Lookouts until capped. Can do both on same entry to save time.

  6. #746
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Gilgamesh
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    Diabolos

    I think a ward to end all wards got nerfed by the last "mini-update." I briefly read the notes, but I recall it saying there is not a 1hr wait period between each quest completion.

  7. #747
    Hydra
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    I did it last week, and turned in about 20 pop items in a row. Only maint I've seen on the zone since was all the scars zones, so not sure if they changed it then.

  8. #748
    New Spam Forum
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    Alexander
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    I'm thinking of coming back to get 85 and try out the new stuff.
    I hear Abyssea is the new exp hot spot. How fast can I expect to reasonably level there? Will I need scars a well? Are random parties just as good or will I need LS based experience parties?

  9. #749
    Banned.

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    Pickup parties 60-80k/h. Top tier parties can break 200k/h, experienced duos can get as high as 100k/h. All of these require lights capped, which takes up about the first hour to 2 hours of a party depending on quality. You'll get exp as you go, just gradually increases until cap. 75-85 in a competent group is under 3 hours.

  10. #750
    Hydra
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    Somewhat similar question: any tips on duo/lower-man parties in abyssea, mainly for the purpose of capping time? Once merits are capped, I don't really want to have to join full alliances just for the purpose of getting time extends, when I could just grab a few friends and do it. Any advice on locations, what to kill, decent job combos would be much appreciated.

  11. #751
    Sea Torques
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun-it View Post
    Working on a 5hit for my sam, was thinking this set up for TP
    http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...91/Capture.png
    Just need AF3 head seals, GKT is STP+10
    But i was wondering what i would have to WS in to keep my 5hit?
    Any help with this please?

  12. #752
    E. Body
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    Phoenix

    Your link doesn't work, sends me to my own item sets menu.

  13. #753
    Sea Torques
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    Thanks edited it

  14. #754
    Cerberus
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    Ninita Nita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun-it View Post
    Thanks edited it
    You're only getting 20.0 tp/hit with that setup if i'm right about what the stuff is.. 10 weapon 4 rose 5 head 5 rajas 5 legs. 29 store tp.. you'll need the same on ws. If you have a better hat. I would suggest domaru or +1 on ws. or any other way to make up the 5 store tp you'll lose switching to different hat. Hachiman feet would work as well.. but you lose 1 more str.

    Edit: That's also assuming you have capped merits.

  15. #755
    Sea Torques
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    ok thanks was thinking it was just domaru over KO for WS

  16. #756
    Melee Summoner
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    The store tp break down for 5 hit (w/ 464 delay) is like this:
    Store TP needed on hits to maintain 5 hit:
    TP WS
    29 29
    30 26
    31 23
    32 20
    33 16
    34 10
    35 6
    36 3

    this is assuming you have capped merits

  17. #757
    Cerberus
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    Ninita Nita
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    Excalibur
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    Gnomeregan

    Sorry i forgot brutal so you're actually gettin 20.1 tp/hit.. but doesn't change the fact that you'll need to ws in domaru assuming you ws in those legs.

  18. #758
    Absolute Messenger of Promathia
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    Blaise Destin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    Yes, depends but the main point is that there's no neck with enough STR to compete.
    Curious what amount of STR would be required for the neck?

    http://www.ffxiah.com/item/11582/ire-torque-1 is +7 but must be too low.

    I believe you just wondering what might be the minimum =x

  19. #759
    Chram
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    Fenrir

    Napkin math: For non-Haguns, somewhere in the vicinity of 16-18 str to match a gorget, not counting some of the higher Abyssea str buffs, which would raise the required amount of additional strength needed.

  20. #760
    Relic Horn
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    Sylph

    Was the level correction function changed recently? Both BG wiki and Otherwiki list it as it acting after you cRatio is capped, like this.

    Attack/Defense > Capped at 2.0/2.2 > -0.05 for every level the opponent is above you > calculated Pdif

    However, I'm getting damage numbers on Incredibly Toughs that equal my damage on Too Weaks, so I'm thinking that level correction must work before your cRatio is capped.

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