Random Question Thread XIV: No Not XIV, XI

**Nightfyre** · 2010-10-06 00:31

Originally Posted by Gun-it

Perform any Polearm weapon skill 800 times on experience-yielding monsters of Amorph family
Good place i can do this and get refresh from either book/sigil/sanction on my DRG?

Did mine at the leeches by the lake in Caedarva Mire, just outside Nashmau.

**Nitrous24** · 2010-10-06 02:45

Anyone mind hooking me up with a DRG spellcast file? Much appreciated thanks ahead of time.

what kind? i have 2 seperate ones.. one for /mage and one for /everything else.. mostly because i don't like messing with groups.. i'll just give you the mage one i guess... It's not the best, i really need to get around to fixing it up a bit.. via actually having multiple ws sets.. but meh... I don't get to play drg enough much to care.

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<spellcast>
	<config
		Debug="False"
		HideErrors="false"
		ShowGearSwaps="false"
		ShowSpellInfo="False" 
	/>	
	<sets>
		<group name="shared" default="yes">
			<set name="tp">
				<ammo>Thew Bomblet</ammo>
				<head>Walahra Turban</head>
				<neck>Love Torque</neck>
				<lear>Brutal Earring</lear>
				<rear>$rtpear</rear>
				<body>Ares's Cuirass</body>
				<hands>Homam Manopolas</hands>
				<lring>$ltpring</lring>
				<rring>Rajas Ring</rring>
				<back>Lancer's Pelerine</back>
				<waist>Swift Belt</waist>
				<legs>Homam Cosciales</legs>
				<feet>Homam Gambieras</feet>
			</set>
			
			<set name="Drakesbane" baseset="tp">
				<head>Hecatomb Cap</head>
				<rear>Kemas Earring</rear>
				<body>$wsbody</body>
				<hands>Hecatomb Mittens</hands>
				<lring>Flame Ring</lring>
				<back>Forager's Mantle</back>
				<waist>Warwolf Belt</waist>
				<legs>Lncr. Cuissots +1</legs>
				<feet>Hct. Leggings</feet>
			</set>
			
			<set name="Penta" baseset="tp">
				<head>Hecatomb Cap</head>
				<rear>Kemas Earring</rear>
				<body>$wsbody</body>
				<hands>Hecatomb Mittens</hands>
				<lring>Flame Ring</lring>
				<back>Forager's Mantle</back>
				<waist>Wyrm Belt</waist>
				<legs>Lncr. Cuissots +1</legs>
				<feet>Hct. Leggings</feet>
			</set>
			
			<set name="HB-Pre" baseset="tp">
				<ammo>Verthandi's Gem</ammo>
				<head>Drachen Armet</head>
				<neck>Ritter Gorget</neck>
				<lear>Cassie Earring</lear>
				<rear>Morukaka Earring</rear>
				<body>Ares's Cuirass</body>
				<lring>Bloodbead Ring</lring>
				<rring>Bomb Queen Ring</rring>
				<back>Gigant Mantle</back>
				<waist>Marid Belt</waist>
				<feet>Homam Gambieras</feet>
			</set>
			
			<set name="HB-Mid" baseset="HB-Pre">
				<head>Wyrm Armet</head>
				<neck>Chanoix's Gorget</neck>
				<lear>Brutal Earring</lear>
				<body>Wyvern Mail</body>
				<back>Lancer's Pelerine</back>
				<legs>Drn. Brais +1</legs>
			</set>
			
			<set name="jump" baseset="tp">
				<head>Hecatomb Cap</head>
				<rear>Kemas Earring</rear>
				<hands>Hecatomb Mittens</hands>
				<lring>Flame Ring</lring>
				<back>Forager's Mantle</back>
				<waist>Warwolf Belt</waist>
				<legs>Lncr. Cuissots +1</legs>
				<feet>Drachen Greaves</feet>
			</set>
			
			<set name="HighJump" baseset="tp">
				<head>Hecatomb Cap</head>
				<rear>Kemas Earring</rear>
				<body>Ares's Cuirass</body>
				<hands>Hecatomb Mittens</hands>
				<lring>Flame Ring</lring>
				<back>Lancer's Pelerine</back>
				<waist>Wyrm Belt</waist>
				<legs>Lncr. Cuissots +1</legs>
				<feet>Hct. Leggings</feet>
			</set>
			
			<set name="idle" baseset="tp">
				<neck>Orochi Nodowa</neck>
				<lring>Jelly Ring</lring>
				<rring>Patronus Ring</rring>
				<legs>Crimson Cuisses</legs>
				<back>Shadow Mantle</back>
			</set>
		</group>
	</sets>
			
	<variables clear="true">
		<var name="wsbody">Ares's Cuirass</var>
		<var name="rtpear">Assault Earring</var>
		<var name="ltpring">Blitz Ring</var>
	</variables>
			
	<rules>
		
		<equip when="idle" set="idle" />
		<equip when="engaged" set="tp" />
		<if spell="Angon">
			<equip when="precast">
				<ammo>Angon</ammo>
			</equip>
			<castdelay delay=".5"/>
			<equip when="aftercast">
				<ammo>Thew Bomblet</ammo>
			</equip>
		</if>
		<if spell="Jump">
			<if day="Darksday">
				<equip when="precast" set="jump">
					<back>Shadow Mantle</back>
				</equip>
			</if>
			<else>
				<equip when="precast" set="jump"/>
			</else>
			<castdelay delay=".5"/>
			<if status="engaged">
				<equip when="aftercast" set="tp"/>
			</if>
			<else>
				<equip when="aftercast" set="idle"/>
			</else>
		</if>
		<if spell="High Jump|Spirit Jump|Soul Jump">
			<equip when="precast" set="Highjump"/>
			<castdelay delay=".5"/>
			<if status="engaged">
				<equip when="aftercast" set="tp"/>
			</if>
			<else>
				<equip when="aftercast" set="idle"/>
			</else>
		</if>
		
		<if spell="Ancient Circle">
			<equip when="precast">
				<legs>Drn. Brais +1</legs>
			</equip>
			<castdelay delay=".5"/>
			<if status="engaged">
				<equip when="aftercast" set="tp"/>
			</if>
			<else>
				<equip when="aftercast" set="idle"/>
			</else>
		</if>
		
		<if spell="Call Wyvern">
			<equip when="precast">
				<body>Wyrm Mail</body>
			</equip>
			<castdelay delay=".5"/>
			<if status="engaged">
				<equip when="aftercast" set="tp"/>
			</if>
			<else>
				<equip when="aftercast" set="idle"/>
			</else>
		</if>
		
		<if mode="AND" CommandPrefix="/ws|/weaponskill" NotTPLT="100">
				<if spell="Drakesbane|Wheeling*|Penta*|Sonic*">
					<if spell="Drakesbane|wheeling*">
						<equip when="precast" set="Drakesbane">
							<neck>Flame Gorget</neck>
						</equip>
					</if>
					<else>
						<equip when="precast" set="Drakesbane" />
					</else>
				</if>
				<castdelay delay=".5" />
				<equip when="aftercast" set="tp" />
		</if>
		
		<if Spell="Dia|Cocoon|Power Attack|Foot Kick|Poisona|Bar*">
			<equip when="precast" set="HB-Pre"/>
			<castdelay delay=".5"/>
			<equip when="aftercast" set="HB-Mid"/>
			<if status="engaged">
				<cmd when="aftercast">wait 5;sc set tp</cmd>
			</if>
			<else>
				<cmd when="aftercast">wait 4;sc set idle</cmd>
			</else>
		</if>
		
		<if spell="Ranged">
			<cancelspell />
		</if>
	</rules>
 
</spellcast>

I tend to use a lot of variables so i can change things without making tons of sets. I think you can get the jist of it though. Also i mostly use Soul and Spirit jumps now. So i've not actually made multiple jump sets like i should. I need to fine tune this but haven't bothered yet since i've not gotten af3+1 pieces (minus legs)

**Scrooge** · 2010-10-06 03:52

Originally Posted by Jeryhn

So, admittedly, I'm not too good at melee math.
That being said, my question is thus (For Abyssea):

I have both Eve and Briareus atma. Would I generally get more out of my MNK if I switch out Briareus for Atma of the Razed Ruin (the awesome +DEX/Crit one) on normal mobs? Any difference on NMs? Assume capped merits/accuracy/haste here.

Also, with both of the STR atmas, my Ascetic's seems pretty on par with (actually, oftentimes exceeds) Asuran.
Assuming I'm not using a Footwork build, is this the WS I should be sticking with?

Admittedly besides a Black Belt, my MNK is fairly gimp, but if I need to post a gearset for more clear answers, I'll provide.

Use Voracious Violet + Razed Ruin. Use nothing but Fury.

Razed Ruin is absolutely ridiculous. Parses show melees in Abyssea at over a 50% crit rate, and the crit dmg bonus appears to be 30%.

**Francisco** · 2010-10-06 06:26

How easy or hard are the following NMs?

- Ironclad Pulverizor

- Bhukis

**Francisco** · 2010-10-06 06:29

Originally Posted by Scrooge

Use Voracious Violet + Razed Ruin. Use nothing but Fury.

Razed Ruin is absolutely ridiculous. Parses show melees in Abyssea at over a 50% crit rate, and the crit dmg bonus appears to be 30%.

Would Sanguine Scythe Atma be better than Voracious Violet? It's HP+ Superior, Crit Dmg Bonus+ Major and Enmity +Major... consider with a good WS Build, cruor buffs and both Furtherance Abyssites, you've got approx STR+110.

**rog** · 2010-10-06 07:06

Originally Posted by Francisco

Would Sanguine Scythe Atma be better than Voracious Violet? It's HP+ Superior, Crit Dmg Bonus+ Major and Enmity +Major... consider with a good WS Build, cruor buffs and both Furtherance Abyssites, you've got approx STR+110.

Than 40 str, 50 atk...?

**Fallyn** · 2010-10-06 07:11

Question that's probably been done to death, but best magian GKT to do? storetp or WSDMG? If sTP, how much is needed for a 5hit?

**Francisco** · 2010-10-06 07:42

Originally Posted by rog

Than 40 str, 50 atk...?

Bravo, good sir.

HP+40-50%, DEX+50, Crit Rate+30-40% (ends up around 50%), Crit Damage+60%... (and not relevant to damage at all, but this would bring MNK to ~3400-3600 HP)

vs

STR+40, DEX+50, Attack+40, Crit Rate+30-40%, Crit Damage +30%

Keep in mind you're already TPing in ~160 STR, ~550 Attack...

It's a legit question. Stop being a fucking smartass douche.

**Zadimortis** · 2010-10-06 08:41

How many of the three key items needed to pop Durinn can come from gold chests in Abyssea - Vunkerl?

**rog** · 2010-10-06 08:53

Just the flayer's.

**Phoenyx** · 2010-10-06 09:08

Originally Posted by Fallyn

Question that's probably been done to death, but best magian GKT to do? storetp or WSDMG? If sTP, how much is needed for a 5hit?

Need 64 total StoreTP to get a 5-hit. This post has great info on StoreTP needed in TP and WS builds to maintain a 5-hit. I think most recommendations are for the WS DMG Great Katana at this point as long as you can 5-hit with it.

**Fallyn** · 2010-10-06 09:16

Originally Posted by Phoenyx

Need 64 total StoreTP to get a 5-hit. This post has great info on StoreTP needed in TP and WS builds to maintain a 5-hit. I think most recommendations are for the WS DMG Great Katana at this point as long as you can 5-hit with it.

thanks dude.

**Yugl** · 2010-10-06 10:42

I see http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19314/quint-spear going for roughly 1mil. Why is that?

**Klain** · 2010-10-06 10:53

Originally Posted by Yugl

I see http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19314/quint-spear going for roughly 1mil. Why is that?

Not sure myself, but maybe Namas Arrow? All I can think of outside of maybe Leg Sweep or skill up or something.

**Byrthnoth** · 2010-10-06 10:57

Yeah, or just sidewinder spam. Acc isn't an issue on old content. It may be better than Soboro for that. Considering the gimp OATs and OA2-3s SE put out with magians though, I wouldn't necessarily assume it.

**AidenCarby** · 2010-10-06 10:59

Originally Posted by Nitrous24

what kind? i have 2 seperate ones.. one for /mage and one for /everything else.. mostly because i don't like messing with groups.. i'll just give you the mage one i guess... It's not the best, i really need to get around to fixing it up a bit.. via actually having multiple ws sets.. but meh... I don't get to play drg enough much to care.

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<spellcast>
	<config
		Debug="False"
		HideErrors="false"
		ShowGearSwaps="false"
		ShowSpellInfo="False" 
	/>	
	<sets>
		<group name="shared" default="yes">
			<set name="tp">
				<ammo>Thew Bomblet</ammo>
				<head>Walahra Turban</head>
				<neck>Love Torque</neck>
				<lear>Brutal Earring</lear>
				<rear>$rtpear</rear>
				<body>Ares's Cuirass</body>
				<hands>Homam Manopolas</hands>
				<lring>$ltpring</lring>
				<rring>Rajas Ring</rring>
				<back>Lancer's Pelerine</back>
				<waist>Swift Belt</waist>
				<legs>Homam Cosciales</legs>
				<feet>Homam Gambieras</feet>
			</set>
			
			<set name="Drakesbane" baseset="tp">
				<head>Hecatomb Cap</head>
				<rear>Kemas Earring</rear>
				<body>$wsbody</body>
				<hands>Hecatomb Mittens</hands>
				<lring>Flame Ring</lring>
				<back>Forager's Mantle</back>
				<waist>Warwolf Belt</waist>
				<legs>Lncr. Cuissots +1</legs>
				<feet>Hct. Leggings</feet>
			</set>
			
			<set name="Penta" baseset="tp">
				<head>Hecatomb Cap</head>
				<rear>Kemas Earring</rear>
				<body>$wsbody</body>
				<hands>Hecatomb Mittens</hands>
				<lring>Flame Ring</lring>
				<back>Forager's Mantle</back>
				<waist>Wyrm Belt</waist>
				<legs>Lncr. Cuissots +1</legs>
				<feet>Hct. Leggings</feet>
			</set>
			
			<set name="HB-Pre" baseset="tp">
				<ammo>Verthandi's Gem</ammo>
				<head>Drachen Armet</head>
				<neck>Ritter Gorget</neck>
				<lear>Cassie Earring</lear>
				<rear>Morukaka Earring</rear>
				<body>Ares's Cuirass</body>
				<lring>Bloodbead Ring</lring>
				<rring>Bomb Queen Ring</rring>
				<back>Gigant Mantle</back>
				<waist>Marid Belt</waist>
				<feet>Homam Gambieras</feet>
			</set>
			
			<set name="HB-Mid" baseset="HB-Pre">
				<head>Wyrm Armet</head>
				<neck>Chanoix's Gorget</neck>
				<lear>Brutal Earring</lear>
				<body>Wyvern Mail</body>
				<back>Lancer's Pelerine</back>
				<legs>Drn. Brais +1</legs>
			</set>
			
			<set name="jump" baseset="tp">
				<head>Hecatomb Cap</head>
				<rear>Kemas Earring</rear>
				<hands>Hecatomb Mittens</hands>
				<lring>Flame Ring</lring>
				<back>Forager's Mantle</back>
				<waist>Warwolf Belt</waist>
				<legs>Lncr. Cuissots +1</legs>
				<feet>Drachen Greaves</feet>
			</set>
			
			<set name="HighJump" baseset="tp">
				<head>Hecatomb Cap</head>
				<rear>Kemas Earring</rear>
				<body>Ares's Cuirass</body>
				<hands>Hecatomb Mittens</hands>
				<lring>Flame Ring</lring>
				<back>Lancer's Pelerine</back>
				<waist>Wyrm Belt</waist>
				<legs>Lncr. Cuissots +1</legs>
				<feet>Hct. Leggings</feet>
			</set>
			
			<set name="idle" baseset="tp">
				<neck>Orochi Nodowa</neck>
				<lring>Jelly Ring</lring>
				<rring>Patronus Ring</rring>
				<legs>Crimson Cuisses</legs>
				<back>Shadow Mantle</back>
			</set>
		</group>
	</sets>
			
	<variables clear="true">
		<var name="wsbody">Ares's Cuirass</var>
		<var name="rtpear">Assault Earring</var>
		<var name="ltpring">Blitz Ring</var>
	</variables>
			
	<rules>
		
		<equip when="idle" set="idle" />
		<equip when="engaged" set="tp" />
		<if spell="Angon">
			<equip when="precast">
				<ammo>Angon</ammo>
			</equip>
			<castdelay delay=".5"/>
			<equip when="aftercast">
				<ammo>Thew Bomblet</ammo>
			</equip>
		</if>
		<if spell="Jump">
			<if day="Darksday">
				<equip when="precast" set="jump">
					<back>Shadow Mantle</back>
				</equip>
			</if>
			<else>
				<equip when="precast" set="jump"/>
			</else>
			<castdelay delay=".5"/>
			<if status="engaged">
				<equip when="aftercast" set="tp"/>
			</if>
			<else>
				<equip when="aftercast" set="idle"/>
			</else>
		</if>
		<if spell="High Jump|Spirit Jump|Soul Jump">
			<equip when="precast" set="Highjump"/>
			<castdelay delay=".5"/>
			<if status="engaged">
				<equip when="aftercast" set="tp"/>
			</if>
			<else>
				<equip when="aftercast" set="idle"/>
			</else>
		</if>
		
		<if spell="Ancient Circle">
			<equip when="precast">
				<legs>Drn. Brais +1</legs>
			</equip>
			<castdelay delay=".5"/>
			<if status="engaged">
				<equip when="aftercast" set="tp"/>
			</if>
			<else>
				<equip when="aftercast" set="idle"/>
			</else>
		</if>
		
		<if spell="Call Wyvern">
			<equip when="precast">
				<body>Wyrm Mail</body>
			</equip>
			<castdelay delay=".5"/>
			<if status="engaged">
				<equip when="aftercast" set="tp"/>
			</if>
			<else>
				<equip when="aftercast" set="idle"/>
			</else>
		</if>
		
		<if mode="AND" CommandPrefix="/ws|/weaponskill" NotTPLT="100">
				<if spell="Drakesbane|Wheeling*|Penta*|Sonic*">
					<if spell="Drakesbane|wheeling*">
						<equip when="precast" set="Drakesbane">
							<neck>Flame Gorget</neck>
						</equip>
					</if>
					<else>
						<equip when="precast" set="Drakesbane" />
					</else>
				</if>
				<castdelay delay=".5" />
				<equip when="aftercast" set="tp" />
		</if>
		
		<if Spell="Dia|Cocoon|Power Attack|Foot Kick|Poisona|Bar*">
			<equip when="precast" set="HB-Pre"/>
			<castdelay delay=".5"/>
			<equip when="aftercast" set="HB-Mid"/>
			<if status="engaged">
				<cmd when="aftercast">wait 5;sc set tp</cmd>
			</if>
			<else>
				<cmd when="aftercast">wait 4;sc set idle</cmd>
			</else>
		</if>
		
		<if spell="Ranged">
			<cancelspell />
		</if>
	</rules>
 
</spellcast>

I tend to use a lot of variables so i can change things without making tons of sets. I think you can get the jist of it though. Also i mostly use Soul and Spirit jumps now. So i've not actually made multiple jump sets like i should. I need to fine tune this but haven't bothered yet since i've not gotten af3+1 pieces (minus legs)

Thanks a lot. I tried going back to playing with windower macros and I just couldn't do it anymore lol.

**Byrthnoth** · 2010-10-06 12:50

So, last night I was told that Martial Master only works <200 skill. Is that true?

I got about 1 level of Parrying per hour tanking 4 Pucks in the Den of Rancor with Martial master and Signet. Skill 214 to start, 217 at the end (DNC85/WAR42, B skill rating). A few .3s, a few .1s and .2s. Is this rate good? I'm tired of being almost 100 skill levels under cap.

**ronin sparthos** · 2010-10-06 13:42

Originally Posted by Francisco

How easy or hard are the following NMs?

- Ironclad Pulverizor

- Bhukis

Ironclad Pulverizer is pretty much every other Iron Giant NM rolled into one with some new tricks. Like the others, pet jobs excel on it, being able to attack from afar but you're definitely going to want some melee to proc the red !! for the Atma.

Running it to Colibri is pretty much the best place to fight as its a large open area with no agro. Only new Iron Giant TP moves are Seismic Impact which stuns/slows and Eradicator which is AOE dmg + short duration weakness used at low HP. His special quirk is at low HP he starts to abandon his main body and fight as a head only.

The head-only TP moves are way easier to deal with (a burn AOE and a 3blink eye laser move iirc) but eventually the head will launch off and rejoin its body to fight as an Iron Giant again. It'll constantly try to do this at low HP.

Overall it's a pretty entertaining battle.

**Raen Ryong** · 2010-10-06 13:51

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

IOnly new Iron Giant TP moves are Seismic Impact which stuns/slows and Eradicator which is AOE dmg + short duration weakness used at low HP.

Unless I'm mistaken, I'm pretty sure Ironclad Cleaver (Attohwa) uses Seismic Impact.

**ronin sparthos** · 2010-10-06 13:57

Probably, I only recall Turbine Cyclone for some reason. It call goes by so fast when you're running for your life. lol

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