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  1. #41
    The Defense is ready, Your Honor
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    With or without. Crabs never ran away from us and we'd get the bug on them, even if everything in the fight "worked as intended".

  2. #42
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    this is happening with me very often.. i get several 30-70 skill points while fighting and when the mob is dead nothing shows or a number lower than the sum of points i got while fighting..


    it can also happen solo or duo, but it seems 3+ can make it happen more often.

  3. #43
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    the thing is, this bug is there at least since the beta (cant speak for alpha since i didnt have a key at that point).

    it was reported many times; in the official beta forums, my friends and lsmates, me and also many other reported that in german and also in the english forum.

    also, we sent them an email each of us and reported.

    Party game play not working in an mmo is like having a car with only 3 wheels. I cant believe they dont know about this bug still. Rather i believe they know about it and all they do is proudly announce that on top of their priority list is to fucking improve the market warden system by community request! (yay for the market warden, community doesnt fucking want and need an AH)

  4. #44
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    Made a small observation in duo today. We were duoing Puks and my dart were giving me around 50 skill. Then after my partner left I solod some and got 25 Skill per dart. So the game definetly seems to give you a Skillpoint increase somehow proportional to the people in your party. Or maybe because the Puks were blue with 2 people and orange alone. idk

    Definetly something to test around. And I really hope to get 50s again once my partner comes back lol

  5. #45
    F5 Like A Boss.
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    Found a new one... DoW and DoM classes are getting abysmal skill gains after this patch. It's far worse than what I've experienced on Gladiator. <--- Not working as intended.

    This is of course... Outside of leves.

  6. #46
    Relic Horn
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    ... or... what you say i true... dam that would suck so hard

  7. #47

    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    Found a new one... DoW and DoM classes are getting abysmal skill gains after this patch. It's far worse than what I've experienced on Gladiator. <--- Not working as intended.

    This is of course... Outside of leves.
    Noticed no difference today. Grinding some monkeys near tranquil, was still getting the usual 300-400 XP and 150-250 skill.

    Edit:
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  8. #48
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    I noticed yesterday se ninjad ws of a monster (willow, used some fireII spell, didnt do before). Naiv me was hoping that they maybe could have ninjad skill up bug in party as well, but nada; we tried and its still there.

  9. #49
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    So any testing going on what the 8h update actually does? The wording of the Patchnotes can be fishy sometimes.

    So is it the Physical EXP that stopped getting split? The Cap for the Skillpoints? Any 1st hand Party experiments after?

  10. #50
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    Inb4 Emergency maint to fix what the patch was supposed to fix? X.x

  11. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyramion View Post
    So any testing going on what the 8h update actually does? The wording of the Patchnotes can be fishy sometimes.

    So is it the Physical EXP that stopped getting split? The Cap for the Skillpoints? Any 1st hand Party experiments after?
    Haven't had the chance to log in myself yet, however a friend mentioned it is only Physical EXP that's affected.

  12. #52
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    I'm really hoping they fixed it so you can actually get rank ups when mainhealing... I went through a ridiculous number of leves in a group the other day and didn't rank up once, today soloing I ranked up no problem.

  13. #53
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    Members in ls are still reporting not getting skill at end of party battles. Seems like their patch did not completely work...

  14. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrystolis View Post
    Haven't had the chance to log in myself yet, however a friend mentioned it is only Physical EXP that's affected.
    My wife and I grouped last night and can confirm we were both landing identical EXP after fights now, however one of us will still not receive skill points after some fights. Skill is still very random and all over the map for us.

  15. #55
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    If I understand properly, there is no skill gain for heals, right? My girlfriend and I play Glad and Conj, when she heals we get nothing - so if we pump up the difficulty of the leves and she has to full time heal she gets absolutely no skill gains. Yet if they're too weak the melee just steamroll everything and casters have a hard time getting any spells in. What have others experiences been playing conjurer - is she doing it wrong? If so, what advice would you give?

    I'd honestly just rather grind the two of us, but finding things to reliably duo around 15 has been nearly impossible. Everything is either extremely weak so grinding it is frustrating, or too hard. Things that seem about "just right" like Aldgoats near Horizon occasionally decide to use Berzerk > 2x Charge and wipe me out. Or they decide to turn around while I'm healing myself and take her out by 1 shotting her with charge. Anyone else have an experience duoing and can recommend a good mob around 14-15?

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    If I understand properly, there is no skill gain for heals, right? My girlfriend and I play Glad and Conj, when she heals we get nothing - so if we pump up the difficulty of the leves and she has to full time heal she gets absolutely no skill gains. Yet if they're too weak the melee just steamroll everything and casters have a hard time getting any spells in. What have others experiences been playing conjurer - is she doing it wrong? If so, what advice would you give?
    I've experienced the same thing. For the most part, the leves are too easy or too hard and only the rare one will net really good SP.

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    To clarify, there are skill gains for heals.

  18. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancaster View Post
    To clarify, there are skill gains for heals.
    and they are pretty frequent in party.

    best way to skill up con/thm , just spam darts/ws and cure.

  19. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsey View Post

    I'd honestly just rather grind the two of us, but finding things to reliably duo around 15 has been nearly impossible. Everything is either extremely weak so grinding it is frustrating, or too hard. Things that seem about "just right" like Aldgoats near Horizon occasionally decide to use Berzerk > 2x Charge and wipe me out. Or they decide to turn around while I'm healing myself and take her out by 1 shotting her with charge. Anyone else have an experience duoing and can recommend a good mob around 14-15?
    Go duo crabs south of Skull Valley camp. They will net you decent SP up to 20, they are easy as hell to kill and don't really hit that hard especially if you're a tank. I was tanking them as a LNC back at rank 16-17.

    My wife and I grouped last night and can confirm we were both landing identical EXP after fights now, however one of us will still not receive skill points after some fights. Skill is still very random and all over the map for us.
    When you, or people like this, say they are not getting SP after the fight, are you gaining it during the fight and its not showing up? Or are you just not getting SP gains for a fight or 2? Because the non SP gain is common, and super annoying, but common. Some mobs will net me in a party 200-500 SP, then the next will only give me 89, then I don't get shit from the next 2 mobs, then back again to 300ish.

  20. #60
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    Personally I HATE crabs. You hit for low amounts and get low skillup numbers - sure the number AFTER the fight might seem big, but you could prolly kill 2 mobs of another type meanwhile.

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