FFXIV Random Speculation/Question Thread XI: "How you liking that Beta Phase 5?"

[Tanthalass]

Is it me, or is armorer especially brutal to level? I feel like I lose 10 more durability during a synthesis than any other craft

I haven't dabbled in any other craft too much, but all my friends doing other crafts seem to be able to crank stuff out a lot easier then me. At rank 12 I have a brand new hammer, and I have extreme difficulty with bronze plates (which I don't think can possibly be higher then rank 13).

[dubs]

You can tell which class repairs an item by the material needed. In this case, Bone Chip means that a Goldsmith is the class that repairs the Weathered Hora.

But wands are repaired with growth formula alpha, an alchemy synth. But it is a wood repair. So you could assume it is the job created the item. BUT something like plumed pickaxe is cloth (or maybe it was leather) synth that is still repaired by wood..

[Johndile]

Do trait and ability action points ever increase or are they stuck at 9?

[el_tio]

Is it me, or is armorer especially brutal to level? I feel like I lose 10 more durability during a synthesis than any other craft

I've heard that elements and maybe even stats have an impact on crafting so that might be why. I think SE even officially said this, maybe at the pre-live event.

[miokomioko]

Stats for sure. Armorer implies VIT being a factor. The only ones that aren't obvious are Woodworker and Leatherworker.

I think elemental affinity might either help synths using the same element aetheryte or help keep instabilities to a minimum. I couldn't imagine affinities would really affect anything that important. I mean, all it does is help finding shards/crystals for gathering classes.

[Ruin]

So what have poeple found to be the fastest way to level ur class?

a) Grind the hell out of blue and green mobs

b) Slowly kill yellow mobs

c) Exp in a party

?

[Johndile]

I'm soloing yellow/greens as Conj/Thau

[Saphere]

So what have poeple found to be the fastest way to level ur class?

a) Grind the hell out of blue and green mobs

b) Slowly kill yellow mobs

c) Exp in a party

?

Well for me its Blue/Green mobs until 5/6 then its green/yellow from then on. Seems to work pretty well.

Also, how is everyone doing gil wise? Currently sitting on 910k, myself.

[theonemav]

grind grind grind.

[plue]

Well for me its Blue/Green mobs until 5/6 then its green/yellow from then on. Seems to work pretty well.

Also, how is everyone doing gil wise? Currently sitting on 910k, myself.

I don't quite have 910k myself (~500-600k), but I have more gil than probably for the first year I played XI. I'm thinking hyper inflation is going to happen quite soon, and gil will be quite worthless.

What does the message "This synthesis requires a large accommodation" mean?

^ It means you have to get guild support for that recipe.

[Cureslime]

Gil will be worthless until we get a content update and they think up something we can use it on. Mats are far too common. There are probably more Square Maple Shields and Maple Wands on my server than there are players. Unless you're first to market you're not going to make any money crafting from a few weeks from now onwards (any more money than you'd make just selling mats that is.)

[Sephiroth]

I haven't dabbled in any other craft too much, but all my friends doing other crafts seem to be able to crank stuff out a lot easier then me. At rank 12 I have a brand new hammer, and I have extreme difficulty with bronze plates (which I don't think can possibly be higher then rank 13).

You still can't make them? Oh man, I levelled armorer yesterday after failing a bronze plate at level 1. I got it to 9 hoping that would be enough. Not tried the synth again. I only need a plate so I can make a square maple shield, because I don't want to pay the prices on my server.

Apparently they can be bought though? I'm sure I didn't see one at Joellaut yesterday. That's where I bought my ingot.

Gil will be worthless until we get a content update and they think up something we can use it on. Mats are far too common. There are probably more Square Maple Shields and Maple Wands on my server than there are players. Unless you're first to market you're not going to make any money crafting from a few weeks from now onwards (any more money than you'd make just selling mats that is.)

Yeah this is a problem. Another symptom of the lack of AH. I mean, if you saw there's 100 maple wands on the AH, would you go and craft another one?

The value of gil in this game is higher, prices in general will be higher. Having a million in XIV will be like having 100k in XI. It will work, you're just playing with an extra zero.

But the crafting and surplus systems definitely mean the rich get richer. If crafter A who started on release day hits surplus every week they'll stay levels ahead of anyone starting now.

[mdkuser]

It would be worse with an AH ( price would fall even faster). FF11 and 14 are the same. Crafting is way too easy, anyone can skill up any craft. I laugh at people wanted to level crafts early to "make tons of money", "corner the market" etc, because soon a recipe is discovered, the day after 50 Joe are making it, and the day after there is hundreds for sale. I made close to one million gils already in 6 days, just selling shards and crystals to those crafters xD. Like 11, farming is the way to make money.

They need to make crafting more difficult ( giving mats for free in Leves is a mistake), and make mats even harder to get than they are now.

[Ruin]

For abilitys like Makers Muse, Do you actually have to use them or are they just always active? And does that 1 for example work on all crafts or just blacksmith?

[Cureslime]

Very few people are going to keep up with crafting. It's just too annoying and unfun. Standard edition people have even less reason to level the crafting jobs as they'll never make a dime crafting.

[Sup3rB4d]

What are the odds that in some point in the future retainers can bazaar more than 10 items at once?

[TStupified]

Very few people are going to keep up with crafting. It's just too annoying and unfun. Standard edition people have even less reason to level the crafting jobs as they'll never make a dime crafting.

I'm having more fun with crafting that anything else in the game atm. And I can't say I'm not having fun with the other aspects as well.

I guess I'm just easy as fuck to please. ('-'*)

EDIT:
Also in b4 the useless "Servers seem to be up" -post, servers seem to be up.

[Sephiroth]

I'm going to remain optimistic with crafting. Problem right now if you have to level half a dozen crafts to make anything since you can't get the important materials easily off other people. There's also a lot of recipes people aren't making. Like I've never seen a budding maple wand because no one knows how to find Humus.

What are the odds that in some point in the future retainers can bazaar more than 10 items at once?

It's always a possibility, but so is the possibility of being able to auction more than 7 items at once in FFXI. In other words, it's probably not going to happen. Shit like this forces people to buy more mules/retainers.

[Kaylia]

What are the odds that in some point in the future retainers can bazaar more than 10 items at once?

Why do you think there is no AH, a lot of component in every craft, and 1$ retainer? If SquareEnix was sane, they would back out of this stupid system and do something better, but I wouldnt put my money on it.

[Sephiroth]

I'm confused by the "seeking" in bazaars/market wards. Are people trying to rip people off or am I not understanding something?

I keep seeing shit like 100/999 shards with 100 gil price. Are they wanting 100 shards for 100 gil or is that 100 gil for each shard?