FFXIV Random Speculation/Question Thread XI: "How you liking that Beta Phase 5?"

[miokomioko]

So... the world transfer application requires an active subscription? I can't pick EU onry server without paying for a game I don't want to pay for right now? Thanks for fucking me in the ass, SE.

Yeah, when you don't pay for the game, nothing happens to your character. Crazy, I know.

[Niiro]

Approximately right after I had leveled to 41 miner I started getting weird exp rates. This was happening because I would end up damaging the item in one shot, why is this happening? I was mining for about three hours straight, is there a fatigue for mining that I haven't heard about? Also thought maybe my pick was broke and that's why, but all of my gear isn't damaged.

Yes there's still fatigue, assuming your account is accurate I see no other reason for it.

I forget how long it takes to reset but you must have been mining a lot recently, 3hrs alone shouldn't fatigue you by a long shot.

[Jamison]

Yes there's still fatigue, assuming your account is accurate I see no other reason for it.

I forget how long it takes to reset but you must have been mining a lot recently, 3hrs alone shouldn't fatigue you by a long shot.

I believe it's around 400, and I can hit that in 2 hours with good node placement. Since your count will drop a couple of times over those 2 hours, you often don't actually see it until 500 gathers.

[Rocl]

edit: bleh miokomioko was right it didn't work for hellfire like i'd hoped

it was the saddest thing i ever discovered in ifrit

[Pooke]

Thanks, I have been mining a lot lately so that solves my problem. When does fatigue reset? My memory thinks a week after you started getting exp, but I'm not confident with that.

[Raldo]

Thanks, I have been mining a lot lately so that solves my problem. When does fatigue reset? My memory thinks a week after you started getting exp, but I'm not confident with that.

It drops a little bit every hour until it's gone.

If I had to guess, I'd say it drops 50~80 gathers per hour.

[Pooke]

Thanks Raldo. I have a question about gearing for crafting specifically for exping. Is it best to stack craftsmanship up as much as possible? What about control? Does it lower the chances of sparking and unstable state or just sparking? Thanks.

[Raldo]

I try to keep all my crafting stats at about the same level, unless I know what I'm focusing on specifically requires craft. or m.craft. Control was only ever specifically mentioned to prevent sparking, but I think it's useful for more than that. That said, I don't know if it affects instabilities at all. Some people swear by stacking tons of control, others don't find it helps much at all. I don't really have much of an opinion on it.

I was once told by someone to shoot for [synth level]x2 for crafting stats.

Here's some general crafting stats info that I wrote up for my linkshell...

Spoiler: show

These aren't exactly guides per se, but they tell you what stats do what:

Ask the Devs: Synthesis
This one details craftsmanship, magic craftsmanship, control, which elemental instabilities do what, crafting orb colors, and aetherial sparks.

Lodestone dev post: Stats and You!
This one details which base stat increases quality gains for each class and tool. Since the whole post isn't relevant to DoH, I'll just quote the section that is here.

Attributes for Disciples of the Hand will increase the resulting product's quality.

Carpenter
Main Hand: VIT / Off Hand: DEX
Blacksmith
Main Hand: STR / Off Hand: MND
Armorer
Main Hand: VIT / Off Hand: STR
Goldsmith
Main Hand: DEX / Off Hand: INT
Leatherworker
Main Hand: VIT / Off Hand: INT
Weaver
Main Hand: DEX / Off Hand: MND
Alchemist
Main Hand: INT / Off Hand: PIE
Culinarian
Main Hand: MND / Off Hand: PIE

Oh yeah, and here's a fun fact that I figured out on my own. The bonus experience percentage granted by increasing quality is calculated like this:
([Ending Quality] - [Initial Quality]) ÷ 2.5 = Exp bonus % (rounded down)
Note: The resulting exp after the bonus is applied is also rounded down.

If someone has actual data regarding crafting stats, I would love to see it as well.


Damn it, I think I just hit gathering fatigue... sigh. Yep. Just damaged a freakin' acorn.

[Frein]

Yeah, when you don't pay for the game, nothing happens to your character. Crazy, I know.

Your sarcasm would be effective if the transfer period wasn't limited to right now. I guess I'll have to pay the 10€ now so I can pay another 10€ later when I actually want to play.

[miokomioko]

If you're not even playing, why do you need to transfer to a server that may or may not even exist? There's going to be more world transfer opportunities. Notably at the 2.0 launch.

[Niiro]

I believe it's around 400, and I can hit that in 2 hours with good node placement. Since your count will drop a couple of times over those 2 hours, you often don't actually see it until 500 gathers.

I'm surprised, for the last few levels of MIN I was really grinding but never hit fatigue.

Guess stopping to do behests and random afks were enough to offset the timer.

Control was only ever specifically mentioned to prevent sparking, but I think it's useful for more than that. That said, I don't know if it affects instabilities at all.

I almost hope control only effects sparking, that way I can completely forget the stat exists and free up some inv.

That said, I get the same feeling that it does more than that, but hell if I'm gonna figure out a way to test it -.-

[Enygma55]

Control (from my eyeballing) reduces elemental unstability. I did some basic test long time ago involving having like 91 craft and m.craft while having 10 control. Every other action in my crafting was unstable and the next would blow up.

Craft/m.craft imo increases overall success rate and a higher average of progress per action (getting 20% instead of 13%)

With an up-to-date tool and some basic craft gear, crafting shouldn't be too difficult to level off a recipe 7 ranks above yours. Your lv rank will determine your overall success the most.

[Niiro]

Figures the obvious wouldn't occur to me, just putting on a weathered tool would give you the means to gauge control.

Easy to forget you don't actually gain stats with level when you're so used to thinking of everything from a combat job state of mind.

[Obsidian]

What kind of gear should I be looking to get for 26 PUG? I'm just playing really casually in my spare time, and all my undergarments, gloves, boots and belt are level 1 stuff, using copper rings and brass earrings, and green cotton sarouel. I just bought a velveteen shirt of slaying (green) for 10k and some Toadskin cesti, haha.

[Frein]

If you're not even playing, why do you need to transfer to a server that may or may not even exist? There's going to be more world transfer opportunities. Notably at the 2.0 launch.

I was thinking of taking another month when the jobs are added. I'm European, there's always been few of us to begin with and after they designate a for EU server, being stuck on any other server is going to be like living in a ghost town. So basically if we want to play at all until the next server transfer, we'll have to activate now.

[Manako]

I was thinking of taking another month when the jobs are added. I'm European, there's always been few of us to begin with and after they designate a for EU server, being stuck on any other server is going to be like living in a ghost town. So basically if we want to play at all until the next server transfer, we'll have to activate now.

I find it frustrating that the server merges aren't happening before the update, servers are veritable ghost towns, I'd much rather experience new content with the larger population. If fact it would be smart because it would create a reason for people to mingle theoretically... Not that I want the patch delayed any later.

[Aratharn]

What kind of gear should I be looking to get for 26 PUG? I'm just playing really casually in my spare time, and all my undergarments, gloves, boots and belt are level 1 stuff, using copper rings and brass earrings, and green cotton sarouel. I just bought a velveteen shirt of slaying (green) for 10k and some Toadskin cesti, haha.

Whatever is cheap.

You're going to outlevel any gear you buy at that level so fast that it's not worth spending much, especially when gear at that level doesn't make much difference. (although the same could be argued about gear at lvl50)

[Wulfgang]

Does anyone have a good solo guide for THM? I've done 1-38 since 1.20 and it's been lightning fast. Most recently did Mad Anglers near Nophica's from 35-38 and was getting Chain 5: 780+ easily. Currently 38 and trying to figure out what's next. I had been doing the 40-42 Brutal Sheep in Coerthas to also satisfy my weaving needs, but HP is substantially higher than the Anglers it seems. I could party, but I enjoy watching hockey and mindlessly nuking with occasional breaks.

[Obsidian]

Anyone know where I should be putting my attribute points on PGL, and care to explain why to me? I have no idea what to do, haha. Also, any decent spots for 27 PGL to solo grind or are leves my best bet? (I have ~80 stockpiled, lol)

[Seravi Edalborez]

^ Max STR, Max-minus-one INT. Both are PGL's "damage stats" though INT's effect on things besides auto-attack and Blindside (with trait) aren't fully known as far as I know beyond that STR is worth a little more.

If you have nothing better to do with leves, may as well use them for money (or Grand Company seals if you have that option). Mooglebox has a camp finder for large mob groups in ranges of x0-x2, x3-x6, and x7-x9 (IE, 30-32, 33-36, 37-39 and so on).