FFXIV Random Speculation/Question Thread XI: "How you liking that Beta Phase 5?"

[Arelian]

It's a silly statement because no other form of gaming or media demands this much attention from the developers. If we were like "any consumer", we would be fine with the end product or not play it at all. Now we are not fine with the end product but play it anyway, and in some cases even feed off the out-of-game communication and let that affect our decisions. It's very unique.

No other form of gaming is based around constantly improving and supplying new content to your customers, though. So it's not really a fair thing to compare it to any other type of game. We buy unfinished MMOs because there's the off chance our problems will be fixed. There's no other form of gaming or media that holds that kind of chance.

[Sephiroth]

Oh wow, I just figured out that in order to AoE your spell you have to click that green bar that appears...

[Khamsin]

I seem to be having issues with my retainer. I'd set her up before I go to bed, summon her in the first market ward and log off. By the time I come back on, she isn't around and has to be resummoned.

Do retainers have a time limit?

[Jintu]

I seem to be having issues with my retainer. I'd set her up before I go to bed, summon her in the first market ward and log off. By the time I come back on, she isn't around and has to be resummoned.

Do retainers have a time limit?

Maintenance/Server resets make every retainer, everywhere, go bye bye and you have to resummon them afterwards again. See my complaint in the complaint thread, this is ridiculous.

[Burningthought]

i have a few questions before i pick up my cheap edition copy tomorrow:

Is the updater the same as in the beta? I ask that because the updater ran like shit for me.

If so can you download updates somewhere like in the beta?

I swear I used the search.

Not sure if your question has been answered yet, but if you fix your router settings the patcher works fine, if you can't adjust your settings (university or whatnot) then there are a few mirrors lingering around. Your mileage may vary though, SE has been requesting that websites not host their update files.

Also, welcome and have fun!

[Carraway]

Oh wow, I just figured out that in order to AoE your spell you have to click that green bar that appears...

You can also hit Z to toggle AoE off/on when the "Select a target" prompt pops up. Or if you're using a macro, you can use /aoe [on/off].

[Aristio]

When does the DoL get the ~20 rank level quest? I'm at rank 15 now and it still won't give me my horizon leves. And for that matter, I have been rank 10+ for days now and not a single quest for marks. What's up here?

[JigglyJam]

Yeah it goes like:

Fishing
1:all
10:all
20:Gridania
30:Limsa Lominsa
40:Ul'dah

Botany
1:all
10:all
20:Ul'dah
30:Gridania
40:Limsa Lominsa

Mining:
1:all
10:all
20:Limsa Lominsa
30:Ul'dah
40:Gridania

When does the DoL get the ~20 rank level quest? I'm at rank 15 now and it still won't give me my horizon leves. And for that matter, I have been rank 10+ for days now and not a single quest for marks. What's up here?

depends what you are; @20 mining - limsa, botany - uldah, fishing - gridania. Guild marks are sometime available as rewards from the 20 leves

[Lucavi]

Another IGN review: http://pc.ign.com/articles/112/1123824p1.html

Basically saying the same things we've all been saying: niche game, slow paced, if you liked XI you'll like this.
Points out the same flaws too: clunky UI, crafting menus are too thick, lag is annoying at times, too grindy outside of your own leves, not enough lore outside of the main story missions.

Its a fair review, though, and they'll continue to hammer out updates to the review.

I found this bit interesting:

"As I've said, nothing in this game is given to you without a catch, and everything takes a long time to do. It's not the type of game where you can simply speed to the good bits, but requires you put in the time fiddling with the interface and tracking down necessary components to accomplish more basic tasks. Of course this type of pacing is the case with higher level endeavors in any other MMO, but in FFXIV it's there from the start. Basically, if you're short on free time this does not seem like a good MMO to dive into based on what I've experienced so far."

So we've got a reviewer saying that despite SE pushing towards "casual" content through the leves, the rest of the game is decidedly un-casual.

[Cooleko]

Ok, I found an exploit which I dont want to reveal since it is an exploit afterall.
But it seems the SE limited max RANK exp per mob to 500.
Anyone else noticed that there is a cap?

[loyaltrekie]

Another IGN review: http://pc.ign.com/articles/112/1123824p1.html

That is honestly, probably the most fair and honest IGN review I have ever read.

Is there a preferred site for 'guides' yet? I'm understanding basic concepts for certain things - but would really love to look over some kind of guide or walkthrough for some key components of the game to make sure I'm not 'overlooking' basic things - lol.

[Kuroanagi]

Well, today's Sept. 30th

I better see that miracle patch.

[Lordender]

Well, today's Sept. 30th

I better see that miracle patch.

not gonna happen.

[miokomioko]

Looks like no goggles for me tonight, shitty ass Gamestop.

Has anyone come across an NPC that wants to Parley besides the tutorial NPC that earns you nothing but your item back?

[Sephiroth]

You can also hit Z to toggle AoE off/on when the "Select a target" prompt pops up. Or if you're using a macro, you can use /aoe [on/off].

The way I thought it worked was once you set /aoe on or hit Z, all future spells would be AOE until you turn it off. But I guess it only does it for the current spell. I wonder how many leves I've failed because of missing out on that extra damage. >.<

[Cureslime]

If you stop paying for FFXI do you get to keep the shoes? I don't want to lose them but I don't want my FFXI subscription to continue either.

[Sephiroth]

I cancelled my XI subscription five minutes after making my XIV character and I still have the shoes.

And would you really pay the XI subscription just to keep the shoes? lol.

[Elcura]

So, the abilities you buy with guild marks, you stilll need to be the correct rank to use them right? What about the convert attribute abilities?

I have 6k marks, was thinking about saving 8k for Firm Conviction, but I've seen it listed as a rank 30 ability. If that's true, no point saving up for that.

Also, affinity ability is rank 50? God that's lame.

Perhaps I should just get Silhouette.

[Grey Jorildyn]

Ok, I found an exploit which I dont want to reveal since it is an exploit afterall.
But it seems the SE limited max RANK exp per mob to 500.
Anyone else noticed that there is a cap?

Yep. Posted this a couple of days ago.
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/991...=1#post4143875

[miokomioko]

So, the abilities you buy with guild marks, you stilll need to be the correct rank to use them right? What about the convert attribute abilities?

I have 6k marks, was thinking about saving 8k for Firm Conviction, but I've seen it listed as a rank 30 ability. If that's true, no point saving up for that.

Also, affinity ability is rank 50? God that's lame.

Perhaps I should just get Silhouette.

Even the purchased abilities/traits that are dat-mined as "Optimal Rank: 1" are restricted for purchase as far as I know (yellowed-out)... unless those have changed? I know when I hit 23 Fisher and earned enough marks to buy something and the only ones that were available to purchase were the 2 _____'s Wards and the ability (Dowse III) that I would have learned at Rank-20 if it was learned naturally.