FFXIV Random Speculation/Question Thread XI: "How you liking that Beta Phase 5?"

[Raldo]

Lame request:

Could someone who has access to the official forums post on my behalf? I'm at work and can't get on because of needing my security token (deliberate tactic to keep myself from wasting more time at work than I already do), but every time I see this question asked I rage because people just don't fucking try. I've posted the fix in the latest thread about it in the bugs section and the LTW subforum! If he knows that this bug has existed for a while, then how has he not known about the fix?
Ughhhhhhhhh

Thread in question: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-class-bug....

Preferred response (just copy paste the text):

Solution: [URL="http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/27842-help-on-leathercraft-quest-36/page3#post668143"]http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/27842-help-on-leathercraft-quest-36/page3#post668143[/URL]

Ignore that it says jackets in the journal!! 

[Ambrosia]

Quick question:

Is the only item right now that won't be available post 2.0 the Gobbue mount? I'm not too worried about titles or achievements, just items in game.

Thanks!

[Raldo]

That's the only confirmed thing that I'm aware of. The dated gear isn't coming back in 2.0, but that's not really worth mentioning.

[TacoTaru]

Lame request:

Could someone who has access to the official forums post on my behalf? I'm at work and can't get on because of needing my security token (deliberate tactic to keep myself from wasting more time at work than I already do), but every time I see this question asked I rage because people just don't fucking try. I've posted the fix in the latest thread about it in the bugs section and the LTW subforum! If he knows that this bug has existed for a while, then how has he not known about the fix?
Ughhhhhhhhh

Thread in question: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-class-bug....

Preferred response (just copy paste the text):

Solution: [URL="http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/27842-help-on-leathercraft-quest-36/page3#post668143"]http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/27842-help-on-leathercraft-quest-36/page3#post668143[/URL]

Ignore that it says jackets in the journal!! 

Posted for you broham.

[Raldo]

Cools, thanks. Hope it works for him; I've never had anyone tell me it didn't.

I don't even think they intend to fix that bug until 2.0 (it was first mentioned back around Oct 2011). It's sad.

[Ambrosia]

O.K. Thanks Raldo good to know.

[Drakath]

You won't be able to get any of the Ifrit, Moogle or Garuda weapons either.

[Raldo]

I don't believe that's been officially confirmed nor denied.

[Fievel]

You won't be able to get any of the Ifrit, Moogle or Garuda weapons either.

This is just a rumor that is more than likely not true.

[Drakath]

This is just a rumor that is more than likely not true.

No it's not, it was actually confirmed shortly before or after Ifrit came out. I doubt I could find the source but I distinctly remember a dev saying so.

[Fievel]

No it's not, it was actually confirmed shortly before or after Ifrit came out. I doubt I could find the source but I distinctly remember a dev saying so.

Without any proof I'm inclined to believe that this isn't true.

Edit: The reason I say this is that many people have made this same claim on this forum, other forums, and in-game, but can never find said dev post. I have seen it argued both ways but nobody ever has any proof either way.

[Raldo]

All remarks about content in-development should be taken with a grain of salt, especially those made so far in advance of what they're talking about. As Spider-Dan would be the first to point out with his melodramatic posts on the OF, they reneged on their comment to make all HQ ingredients = HQ item.

They've said that they intend to let Free Companies earning the ability to summon primals. I would assume the ability to do so is somehow tied to fighting the primals in 2.0 which could just as easily reward the primal weapons as well.

[Denmork]

iirc the dev post said that the primal fights may not be in the game as they are now, so i assume that just means that some mechanics of the fights may change based on the new servers and how the game is played.

[Aratharn]

iirc the dev post said that the primal fights may not be in the game as they are now, so i assume that just means that some mechanics of the fights may change based on the new servers and how the game is played.

And the quests involved with them may change a bit to correspond with the catastrophic events that will take place.

[Drakath]

Without any proof I'm inclined to believe that this isn't true.

Edit: The reason I say this is that many people have made this same claim on this forum, other forums, and in-game, but can never find said dev post. I have seen it argued both ways but nobody ever has any proof either way.

I wouldn't retain the information if I hadn't seen it for myself for a credible source. I'm sure the same goes for many of the others making a similar claim. I also specifically remember it being said by the dev that the Ifrit weapons (since nothing else had been released at the time) would only be available to obtain until 2.0.

But no matter, we all can believe as we like. It'll make no difference in the end.

[blythe]

Is there a way to download the client?

I lost my game disc, but I wanted to come back for the Welcome Back campaign.

Thanks!

[Croy]

I wouldn't retain the information if I hadn't seen it for myself for a credible source. I'm sure the same goes for many of the others making a similar claim. I also specifically remember it being said by the dev that the Ifrit weapons (since nothing else had been released at the time) would only be available to obtain until 2.0.

But no matter, we all can believe as we like. It'll make no difference in the end.

I actually saw the quote you are looking for recently but it doesn't explicitly say the weapons themselves won't be available in 2.0 just that the rewards and item balance for 2.0 Primal battles would likely change.

Q: Will new players who start playing after 2.0 get to experience the current main scenario? Also do they get to challenge instanced raids and primal battles that are available now?
A: First of all, please be aware that the main scenario and the Seventh Umbral Era aren't really the same thing. Players who start after 2.0 should be able to experience the former.

Regarding instanced raids, they will basically remain as it is and they'll be carried over to 2.0. Now with the primal battles, some plots are connected with the Seventh Umbral Era. I say that there is a good chance their appearance may change in 2.0. Some will remain the same, some won't. So basically, the current game balance and the current reward will only be available now. Some of those items already exist.

This comes from the second Live Producer Letter.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mmary-Released!

[Drakath]

I actually saw the quote you are looking for recently but it doesn't explicitly say the weapons themselves won't be available in 2.0 just that the rewards and item balance for 2.0 Primal battles would likely change.



This comes from the second Live Producer Letter.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mmary-Released!

Thanks.

[Fievel]

Finally a source! It's still not super clear, but from the sounds of it yeah weapons will only be available now. I wonder what the reward for doing the fights will be post 2.0?

[Hiruke]

Finally a source! It's still not super clear, but from the sounds of it yeah weapons will only be available now. I wonder what the reward for doing the fights will be post 2.0?

I'm honestly not sure why anyone cares whether or not the primal weapons will be available post-2.0. As for the source, please note that the answer is in response to very broad questions, and the part of the statement thought to mean that "primal weapons won't be available post-2.0" could have been meant as a more a general comment. Or it could mean nothing. Or they could change their minds about whatever it is they alluded to. Also please note that SE was super direct when they very explicitly said you could only get the goobbue mount pre-2.0. I imagine if you could miss out on primal weapons (in their current state - and if this was something you should be concerned about), they'd probably tell you flat out.

For the sake of talking about it, let's take a trip down possibility lane:

1) All the drops stay the same post-2.0 for primal battles. Woo?
2) The weapons are no longer available post-2.0. Period. Even in this dire scenario, the weapons will become obsolete as soon as they release something substantially better or level cap increases (which guarantees the former).
3) The primal battles and the weapons are redesigned for a higher level cap. Let's say 75? The pre-2.0 versions become "Dated" weapons, and SE hopes you transform them all into materia asap. In this scenario, new versions of the weapons become available, instead of pretending we will be at level 50 forever.
4) The primal weapons become more easily attainable (i.e., Ifrit, etc. become "one and done" fights if you only want 1 of the weapons).
5) The primal battles stop dropping dark matter instead of something that may please you. Maybe you just get nothing at all sometimes.

I'd hope for 3), personally. Primal battles will be beyond worthless if they raise level cap and the primal battles remain at 50. This wouldn't seem to make a lot of sense, since I imagine they will be added quite a few more primal battles. I'd expect them all to be at whatever level we can expect to plateau at for a while. I also feel this is the most likely (in combination with 4), and a wide new variety of content being released).

That said, speculating on this serves no real purpose other than self-amusement. We'll find out when it happens, and they probably won't bother to tell us until then, or slightly before.