FFXIV Random Speculation/Question Thread XI: "How you liking that Beta Phase 5?"

[Nartosar]

Can someone explain to me how the leve-trading-in works? I don't think there's an explanation for it in game. I just go with it as it comes but I guess at some point I'll have to understand.

I can take leves and do them, get the rewards. When I go to get more at the counter, when I take the first new leve he asks me to trade in others I have already finished. I can select a varying number of leves, and they have a star with a number (often 0) next to them.

How does the star number change? What does it affect? And why do I have to manually trade in leves? When I complete them, aren't they just... done?

Thanks for any clarifications

[Hyan]

I haven't seen a HQ yet aside from outside leves, but doesn't it take the quality to account when appraising the end product anyway?

[Nartosar]

Yeah, the higher your leve-synth quality, the greater the reward I think. It says it bases reward on the appraisal, at least, which seems to go up with quality.

[miokomioko]

Yeah, it is based on final Quality rating, but I figured a real HQ might boost the appraisal even more... or double-yields completing the leve requirements that much faster. I'm assuming it's impossible to HQ based on my results.

Higher appraisal = more gil, more bonus materials, and more crystals/shards

[Palin]

If I fail a leve due to d/c, how do I go about repeating it? Just wait until the next reset and it'll turn back to a un-attempted one?

[miokomioko]

If I fail a leve due to d/c, how do I go about repeating it? Just wait until the next reset and it'll turn back to a un-attempted one?

Yeah, that's all you can do... Just wait until reset and it should be available to attempt at the appropriate camp, unless they recently changed it so you have to talk to the Adventurer's Guild NPC again, which I don't think they did.

[sruon]

I'm confused... I always thought you could only accept 8 leves per 36 hours but I've done 3+3+3+2+4 so far today/yesterday... unless a reset happened and I missed it? Or is it 8 per rank

4 Level 1 in Ul'dah 20 hours ago
3 Level 10 in Ul'dah 20 hours ago
3 Level 10 in Gridania 1 hour ago
3 Level 10 in LL 1 hour ago
2 Level 20 in LL 1 hour ago

[miokomioko]

I always thought you could only accept 8 leves per 36 hours but I've done 3+3+3+2+4 so far today/yesterday

leves reset early this morning (5:00/8:00am PST/EST)

[sruon]

leves reset early this morning (5:00/8:00am PST/EST)

Oh ok thanks, figured as much.

[Ruin]

Why do I see so many people wearing equip that is way higher level than ur rank? I thought its worse to wear higher level stuff than something thats a few levels lower than u?

[Lucavi]

^ Because either they:

1. Just want to look cool and equip the biggest guns they have, even if it hurt their stats or.
2. They have no idea that their ignorance is hurting them, and haven't bothered to actually check their stats to confirm if the gear is helping or not.

Hey, it works out for me: I get to make big bucks repairing their vastly over-leveled gear when it breaks in 2 days or watch people cry about how they didn't know and now they're saddled with 65k in repair bills without any crafts leveled to fix their own shit.

I think this system is genius and hilarious at the same time. Its like candid camera for the stupid.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

over-leveled gear when it breaks in 2 days.

2 days? My miner wears optimal level gear, all stuff I made him and he needs repairs twice a day easily. Hell my brass spear only lasts 1hr tops before it's at 50%. I can't really complain about gear though, I make easy gil repairing that crap. Fixed a dodoskin jacket today in someones bazaar for 8k; took 20s and 2x leather dodo spetch.

[Greedouw]

Stupid question and cannot find it anywhere:

How do you scroll around the map? (Sure, flame me)

Also, still wondering if the exp rewards for Mining leves are bugged...

[Hyan]

Stupid question and cannot find it anywhere:

How do you scroll around the map? (Sure, flame me)

Umm, the same way you move the camera?

Also, still wondering if the exp rewards for Mining leves are bugged...

The rewards in the OB were bugged, that's for sure.

[Greedouw]

Umm, the same way you move the camera?



The rewards in the OB were bugged, that's for sure.

I've noticed that I haven't gotten as many item rewards as I did in the OB

[miokomioko]

Leve item rewards (including treasure chests) were drastically 'nerf'd. You could easily deck yourself out with gear just by picking & choosing leves in less than a week before. Now there's actually a purpose for crafters. No more free fishing rods from super easy Rank~1,10, and 20 Fishing leves.

[Carraway]

Can someone explain to me how the leve-trading-in works? I don't think there's an explanation for it in game. I just go with it as it comes but I guess at some point I'll have to understand.

I can take leves and do them, get the rewards. When I go to get more at the counter, when I take the first new leve he asks me to trade in others I have already finished. I can select a varying number of leves, and they have a star with a number (often 0) next to them.

How does the star number change? What does it affect? And why do I have to manually trade in leves? When I complete them, aren't they just... done?

Thanks for any clarifications

Leves operate off an inventory system. They really are treated like those cards in the opening cinematic (the fancy one from the title screen). Each leve reset period (36 hours in duration, last reset was today at 5:00 AM PST/8:00 AM EST), you are allowed to pick up eight new cards. If you pick up eight cards during one period, then finish all of them, they remain in your inventory and must be traded out for the new leves. Let's say you fail a leve -- you are allowed to repeat that leve after the next reset, but because it came from the previous reset, you can complete it successfully and then trade it out for a new one. Let's say you pick up eight leves during a leve reset period, but then you go out of town until the next reset -- you can finish all eight leves then pick up eight new ones. However, if you do not pick up any leves during a given leve reset period, that opportunity is gone.

When you have a full leve inventory and you go to pick up eight new leves, you are given the chance to exchange old leves for new ones -- you must do this, in part, because you can only hold eight leve "cards" at a time. The star rating next to a leve indicates the bonus value it represents, which is added to the variable reward of the leve for which you are exchanging it. After you choose a leve, there is a monetary reward associated with it -- either gil or other currency like guild marks -- and this is the variable reward that is adjusted positively based on the value of the exchanged leves. The bonus appears to be proportionate, i.e. a leve that gives 15,000 gil will be boosted further than a leve that gives 5,000 gil even if both are adjusted by the same number of stars. This bonus does not affect the difficulty of the leve or any non-monetary rewards, like gear or crystals.

[miokomioko]

Has anyone seen an equipment reward get altered at all from trading leves? I imagine maybe material rewards' quantities might go up with enough trading, but I've yet to see a piece of equipment change. I wish it would only highlight the rewards that actually did change (gil/marks, usually).

[Riposte]

Any opinions on which class is most fun to play, putting aside mixing abilities?

[miokomioko]

I found Pugilist most fun with all the focusing on evading and retaliating. I suppose the same could be said about Marauder and parrying.

Though I have yet to play a magic discipline.