FFXIV Random Speculation/Question Thread XI: "How you liking that Beta Phase 5?"

[miokomioko]

The "Your Goldsmithing bonus rank increases" means you basically gained a pretend rank in Goldsmithing just from the 10% or whatever that's being deducted and rerouted to some pretend rank system. It means nothing and although they are "considering uses for it," I doubt anything will change other than that message simply disappearing because getting anything out of grinding into fatigue defeats the purpose of it.

[Sephiroth]

The "Your Goldsmithing bonus rank increases" means you basically gained a pretend rank in Goldsmithing just from the 10% or whatever that's being deducted and rerouted to some pretend rank system. It means nothing and although they are "considering uses for it," I doubt anything will change other than that message simply disappearing because getting anything out of grinding into fatigue defeats the purpose of it.

Ah right. Isn't it a bit odd that they've made ranks for it in the first place if they probably won't do anything with it? They may as well have just kept it giving bonus points and no ranks.

[LD]

Huh, I knew Arcanist (& Musketeer) would be the next job, but this is first time I read the details. Sounds interesting.

Edit: Wow, I really am outta touch.

[Lucavi]

Musketeer is going to be a lot of fun. I've always liked guns in the FF series, and it'll be nice to see and hear the gun sounds and effects.

That, and the return of the badass male elvaan default shooting animation. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

[TStupified]

About the surplus, something weird was going on with that today. I hit physical surplus earlier today and noticed that my exp during synths didn't drop at all, synthed a couple hours more, got to -20% and -30% and still no drop in physical exp gained. Then I logged off for a bit and came back later and my exp gain had dropped by about 30%. So I just had a pleasant surplus glitch I guess, still wondering if I would've got the exp drop at all if I wouldn't have logged out.

[Sign]

That's not what I was asking. I know what surplus is. I'm asking what "Your goldsmithing skill bonus rank increases." means. My surplus rank increased, the message came after the usual "Your goldsmithing skill bonus increases".

My earlier guess of going from -10% skill to -20% seems wrong as I'm not seeing a further drop in skill.

I always assumed that that message meant that had you not been losing a portion of your xp you would have leveled. ie. you are close to level and are losing 10% of your xp each kill. At the point you would have normally leveled had you not been in surplus it gives you that message.

[Sephiroth]

I always assumed that that message meant that had you not been losing a portion of your xp you would have leveled. ie. you are close to level and are losing 10% of your xp each kill. At the point you would have normally leveled had you not been in surplus it gives you that message.

It can't be that. I got one around 5k TNL 22 and another around 5k into 22. Just estimating the numbers but definitely less than the 22/24k required for levels at 21/22.

[Ruin]

Yellow just means you're fatigued and are only earning a portion of what you would normally get from an activity. The numbers are still accurate and you won't lose anything from your accumulated totals. When the "fatigue week" resets, the number will no longer be yellow and you'll just go back to earning normal amounts of exp or skill.

For example:

Say I'm earning a solid 1000 exp from each synth I do.

When I hit physical fatigue, that number goes yellow and I'll start seeing something like this from the exact same synth:

You gain 900 experience points.
You gain bonus experience points.

I'm still getting exp, just at a reduced rate (-10% for this example), and the more I continue to grind away at it without taking a break, the less I will be getting.

I think it's generally all understandable from this video:

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/985...e-System-VIDEO

When it comes to your numbers:

Green = enhanced skill/exp gains (Guardian's Aspect)
White = normal skill/exp gains
Yellow = reduced skill/exp gains (fatigue/surplus/bonus/etc)

Ok I get it but,

I got the message "Your bonus physical level has increased" or something like that. But I am only like 90000/180000 on level 33.

Whats the deal with that?

[miokomioko]

It's all the % deductions you're experiencing getting dumped into this alternate, invisible rank system. It's like each class and your physical has this alternate "bonus" version of itself. Instead of simply getting -10% skill or exp gained when you hit fatigue, that 10% also gets rerouted into your "bonus level/rank" which starts at 1 like any normal class/level.

Say you generally need 1000 exp to hit lv.2

If you're getting 1000 exp per synth and hit physical fatigue, 10% of your exp is getting deducted, resulting in 900 exp for your physical level... that deducted 100 exp each synth going towards your bonus physical level. 10 synths later, your bonus physical level will have received 1000 exp total and leveled up.

I really don't know why they give us the message at all, but that's what's happening.

[Ruin]

Yeah I really dont get it. I just hit another "bonus level" like 10k regular exp later

[arshesney]

/equip "Right Index Finger"
/equip "Right Ring Finger"
/equip "Left Index Finger"
/equip "Left Ring Finger"

You can also abbreviate in L.index L.ring R.index R.ring (always case-sensitive)

[Rammses]

You can also abbreviate in L.index L.ring R.index R.ring (always case-sensitive)

Turns out this was my problem. Lodestone has it listed as l.ear, r.ring etc on their macro page, but only L.ear, R.ring etc will work. Thank you.

[miokomioko]

I just killed a Bumble Beetle with nothing but 5-damage Stone Throws on Fisher... No skill and no exp earned whatsoever. :[

[TacoTaru]

I keep getting messages in the log telling me certain mile marks like "You've defeated 1000 enemies!" and "You've finished 100 regional leves!" Are there points to these messages? I thought I was getting a reward and the chat lagged when I first saw it and nothing else happened <_<

[miokomioko]

Just accomplishments...

[Sephiroth]

Probably placeholders for PS3 trophies.

Looks like the market ward changes are coming Friday morning. Hopefully they'll give us inventory sort and more retainers too but maybe that's asking too much.

[Telliani]

Anyone know what these random glow spots are? This one isn't moving, but I've come across a few in the grass of Uldah (by some water) and I think I had come across one in either Limsa or Gridania. First one in a cave though. The outside ones was *almost* like a harvest spot, but white, and did a slow spiral instead of glittered.

http://fallenlights.net/images/ffxiv/glowspot.jpg

[Drakath]

Can anyone else not log on? :S My window gets stuck loading the login screen.

[Azull]

Anyone know what these random glow spots are? This one isn't moving, but I've come across a few in the grass of Uldah (by some water) and I think I had come across one in either Limsa or Gridania. First one in a cave though. The outside ones was *almost* like a harvest spot, but white, and did a slow spiral instead of glittered.

http://fallenlights.net/images/ffxiv/glowspot.jpg

Its a mining spot, the seconary mining tool is used for it. Whenever its mined it moves to a spot nearby but, like normal mining, can only be done x amount of times in a row.

Youll also sometimes see glowly deals over patches of plants (not on trees) for the secondary logging tool

[Telliani]

Aaah, okay. It doesn't bring up a ?! at the top, nor did the grassy ones outside in Uldah.

But the ones I saw in the grass did NOT look like the regular harvest spots (I do botany). Those were colored and flash, these just kind of did lazy white spirals.