FFXIV Random Speculation/Question Thread XI: "How you liking that Beta Phase 5?"

[Priran]

I can count the amount of times I've had someone reply to one of my shouts on zero hands. Several times I've tried forming groups for leves, stood at an aetheryte shouting for upwards of 15 minutes, and gotten nothing. My chances of getting a reply to a tell are only slightly better, even when it's a simple fucking question like "where did you get that hat".

FF14's playerbase is disturbingly insular. I've never seen anything like it.

[Rokku]

I can count the amount of times I've had someone reply to one of my shouts on zero hands. Several times I've tried forming groups for leves, stood at an aetheryte shouting for upwards of 15 minutes, and gotten nothing. My chances of getting a reply to a tell are only slightly better, even when it's a simple fucking question like "where did you get that hat".

FF14's playerbase is disturbingly insular. I've never seen anything like it.

Dude, if you're still on Gysahl just hit me up sometime. We run grinding groups like, all goddamn day and you're welcome to join whenever. We've always got people online.

[Jamison]

Does anyone know where Rank-4~5 gathering points are in Thanalan? I imagine Bluefog or Broken Water?

Grade 4 mining is Nophica's Wells, outside of Horizon. I believe I've seen some spearfishing spots there (inside the mesas). Near as I've been able to tell, all the grade 4 points are around smaller nodes, and not full camps (Camp Glory excepted). I've been told grade 5 is Broken Water, but haven't gone to check it out myself.

[Lucavi]

FF14's playerbase is disturbingly insular. I've never seen anything like it.

Ain't no community like an insular community. You're just doing it wrong? I know what you mean, though, but when I played, I had pretty good luck getting random people to help out with leves that were too strong and whatnot.

The whole mixed servers thing really doesn't help, though, as many people wont even bother to respond to an auto-translate message. Too much effort.

[qpoiuwer]

Ain't no community like an insular community. You're just doing it wrong? I know what you mean, though, but when I played, I had pretty good luck getting random people to help out with leves that were too strong and whatnot.

The whole mixed servers thing really doesn't help, though, as many people wont even bother to respond to an auto-translate message. Too much effort.

I think most people just ignore shouts for the most part (this is usually what I do), but I've have had success in JP people sending me/me sending them direct tells using the auto-translator when asking for help with a leve or a synth or something.

[plue]

Yea, the community is as complete a 180 as possible from the early days of XI. I remember that in like 20 mins of shouting you could get help for whatever you needed, now it's hard to interact with a living soul in the game. I guess that's what you get when you make a solo game for casuals.

[Biggie]

You should be able to solo effectively enough during guildleves since you won't have time to party. Which is not the case right now.

But if you have time to run through the leves and solo grind on top of it, you should party instead, because you obviously have the time to do that.

What I realized is slightly problematic in this system is that the grind, logically, should be designed with the best possible exping method in mind. Which seems to be a 15-man party currently.

I'm not sure how exactly the grouping mechanics work, but I think at some point you shouldn't receive any more +skill for adding more members to the party. Balance it at somewhere between 6 and 10, and maybe lower the skill gain slightly when you go over the balance, while your killspeed goes up slightly as well to even it out. Then adjust the grind based on the 'balanced' parties skill gain.

The more members in the party the better (up to 6-10 members), and afterwards adding more members won't really help but won't hurt either. A bitch to balance though.

I think you just talk out your ass? You say one thing, then immediately say something totally different when called out on it. Do you even play this game? Again, do you even have a character rank22+? Don't comment on stuff you know nothing about.

[Sephiroth]

I noticed that in the beta. It's a bit better in retail but it still feels like a solo game if you're not doing anything with your LS. I can't adjust well to it being the norm to have multiple linkshells either, most people stayed in one in XI or had a second for dynamis.

[Hyan]

I think you just talk out your ass? You say one thing, then immediately say something totally different when called out on it. Do you even play this game? Again, do you even have a character rank22+? Don't comment on stuff you know nothing about.

All I need to know is that your idea of what SE "should" do fucking sucks. The rest is irrelevant.

[Biggie]

All I need to know is that your idea of what SE "should" do fucking sucks. The rest is irrelevant.

i don't even
lol When have I ever gave an idea of what SE "Should" do?

[Katlan]

Have Japanese reviews started to come out for the game yet?

[Biggie]

Have Japanese reviews started to come out for the game yet?

I have not found any yet, very interested in these reviews.

[Calemero]

Completely off topic but...

Found this in a Cave outside of Gridania. When you look at the art map, it shows this area being in the exact same spot as the “Phoenix” type creature on the map. Possibly Phoenix or Garuda? If this has been found/discussed before just ignore it but I thought it was pretty cool.

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http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5...1287610095.jpg

[blythe]

I can count the amount of times I've had someone reply to one of my shouts on zero hands. Several times I've tried forming groups for leves, stood at an aetheryte shouting for upwards of 15 minutes, and gotten nothing. My chances of getting a reply to a tell are only slightly better, even when it's a simple fucking question like "where did you get that hat".

FF14's playerbase is disturbingly insular. I've never seen anything like it.

That might just be your server dude... I mean people definitely aren't outwardly social, but I've definitely been able to form leve groups within a few minutes of shouting near a crystal. I don't do the whole shouting thing for trading but a lot of people try and I assume it works?

[miokomioko]

Completely off topic but...

Found this in a Cave outside of Gridania. When you look at the art map, it shows this area being in the exact same spot as the “Phoenix” type creature on the map. Possibly Phoenix or Garuda? If this has been found/discussed before just ignore it but I thought it was pretty cool.

Spoiler: show

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5...1287610095.jpg

That's pretty sweet. There are three small "rocks" that are the exact same texture in a little dead-end near Tallgourd Lake and a ton of them surrounding the ruins up north. They all look to have a shape suspiciously similar to Tonberries. Petrified wildlings? I wonder why they are so spread out and turned to stone. These things make me psyched for cutscenes.

[Calemero]

didn't even think of that mio, that's an interesting thought if it was specific to Gridania, but another LS mate found one in Ul'Dah also. Still doesn't rule that theory out though and yeah I'm psyched to see the cut scenes involved.

[solracht]

If it matters, they have ores with the same textures at the Goldsmithing guild's counter in Ul'dah.

[qpoiuwer]

They need to cut the damage in half on Impish Incantation. Fighting imps is basically how much damage can you do before he gets TP.

[Kaylia]

Completely off topic but...

Found this in a Cave outside of Gridania. When you look at the art map, it shows this area being in the exact same spot as the “Phoenix” type creature on the map. Possibly Phoenix or Garuda? If this has been found/discussed before just ignore it but I thought it was pretty cool.

Spoiler: show

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5...1287610095.jpg

It's tritoch!

[miokomioko]

They need to cut the damage in half on Impish Incantation. Fighting imps is basically how much damage can you do before he gets TP.

While fishing in Cassiopeia Hollow, next to that "Augur Clam," I've seen dozens of 'Darkwing Devilet' leve targets appear and completely annihilate every group that engaged them. It's always entertaining.