FFXIV Random Speculation/Question Thread XI: "How you liking that Beta Phase 5?"

[Spider-Dan]

What's the best pre-20 WS that fulfills the following conditions:

- low recast (no more than 10s base)
- low stamina usage
- not conditional (Phalanx, Jarring Strike, Fracture, etc.)
- single target only

Trammel looks like the best bang-for-the-buck but I hear Spinstroke might be pretty good?

P.S. for DD job

[Grey Jorildyn]

Skull Sunder

[Sephiroth]

Where is best to solo at rank 20 and get wind shard as primary shard? Dodos by Skull SP dropped off pretty bad when I hit 20.

[Riposte]

Failed a behest at Horizon because there was no healer and everyone wasn't +20. There I saw a need for strategy. Had to split up Shield Bashes so both elementals couldn't Fire II us to death, for example. So basically the main thing killing strategy is the overpowered cures, and in behest's case no rank cap or limit. (Usually someone 5 or 6 ranks higher than camp's suggested rank can solo the thing. More so when he is backed by plenty of players)

EDIT: Also I ranked up while dead, lol.

You can also mark monsters while dead.

EDIT: I think cures being AoE(well, both fully potent and AoE) by default is the problem. It should cost more MP, some TP, or some other limiter to have spells AoE.

[Grey Jorildyn]

Yeah there is just way too much emphasis on pro/shell.

[miokomioko]

Didn't SE mention in a recent "future updates" note that they were going to add the ability to see all the guildleves you have previously completed? I feel it would be pretty important if what they said about completing leves unlocking others is true.

Is it normal to only have 2 Rank-30 Brotherhood faction leves to choose from? ('Bloody Side Up' and 'Reaving Home') I'm wondering if I'm missing one it's because I never did 'Kobold as Ice' and might be a prerequisite for one of the Rank-30s...?

I have done 'Xha Viqqoh the Nibbler' and 'Palemoon Parazuzu' for Azeyma's faction leves, and there's 3 to choose from at Rank-30 now. ('B'khenna the Phoenixfire,' 'Ser Aucheforne of the High Tide,' and 'Godwin Goodgoat')

[Lucavi]

What's the best pre-20 WS that fulfills the following conditions:

- low recast (no more than 10s base)
- low stamina usage
- not conditional (Phalanx, Jarring Strike, Fracture, etc.)
- single target only

Trammel looks like the best bang-for-the-buck but I hear Spinstroke might be pretty good?

P.S. for DD job

Trammel is trash. I'd agree with Skull Sunder.

[miokomioko]

Skull Sunder is one of the best bangz 4 ur bux. Especially since it pretty much gives you an AoE option that can be cancelled out simply by moving.

Also, did they remove Coral Butterflies from Grade-2 waters near Skull Valley? I used to get nothing but, now I can't get anything besides Tiger Cod, Malm Kelp, and Sea Cucumbers.

[Carraway]

Trammel is trash. I'd agree with Skull Sunder.

Even subbed, Trammel is still a 1.5x dmg mod, which makes it far more efficient than any 1k+ TP WS. The first three WSs on anyone's bar for efficiency's sake should be Feint, Skull Sunder, and Trammel.

[Frein]

EDIT: I think cures being AoE(well, both fully potent and AoE) by default is the problem. It should cost more MP, some TP, or some other limiter to have spells AoE.

I have also pinpointed this as a fundamental design problem. It's like they figured all spells must be AoE because internal testing found targeting efficiently enough impossible, completely missing the fact that they lacked most of the targeting functionality that was present in their previous game. /facepalm

[miokomioko]

I think Skull Sunder still wins since it only costs 500 TP.

[Carraway]

I think Skull Sunder still wins since it only costs 500 TP.

Trammel also costs 500 TP.

[Spider-Dan]

Skull Sunder is one of the best bangz 4 ur bux. Especially since it pretty much gives you an AoE option that can be cancelled out simply by moving.

Skull Sunder can't AoE when you aren't MRD main, right? If it can AoE, it's automatically (and necessarily) disqualified.

I'm an ARC. AoE WS is the problem I am trying to solve; if I want an AoE WS, I have about 2348974123 ways to do that without taking an affinity damage penalty.

[Carraway]

Correct, they fixed Steadfast in the November update so that MRD weaponskills affected by Steadfast should not inadvertently activate their Steadfast effects when not on MRD.

[Riposte]

So do I need to make two macros in order to fit in more than 10 action equips?

[goodr]

So do I need to make two macros in order to fit in more than 10 action equips?

Also, locate the forehead of the person responsible for this and class swaps being a PITA and smack.

[Callisto]

So do I need to make two macros in order to fit in more than 10 action equips?

Until the Windower crew or someone finds a way to bless us with script macros, yep.

[Sephiroth]

Switching classes is awful. I really don't see why we can't just have 30 slots for each class that are remembered for that class.

[Hyan]

Because it has to be programmed to the game first. lol.

[Sephiroth]

Because it has to be programmed to the game first. lol.

Obviously. But it should have been done like this to begin with rather than the system they came up with. Although that can be said about pretty much all of the UI.