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  1. #241
    the whitest knight u' know
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    That's what I have been wondering and trying to perceive. I've had it happen many times, it fucks with the animation if it wears off in the middle of a synthesis attempt... which makes me think it does have an immediate effect. I'm still not positive though.

  2. #242
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    I dunno if it does, but it feels like it does. All I know is that if support is flashing and I'm just starting, then fuck me.

  3. #243
    green jellybean
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    With all this talk about rank 20 and 30 missions handing out rank points, someone must have bought one of those books now. Do they just give a hidden bonus to those synths?

  4. #244
    Dammit Steve of the House of Weave
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    Quote Originally Posted by manako View Post
    With all this talk about rank 20 and 30 missions handing out rank points, someone must have bought one of those books now. Do they just give a hidden bonus to those synths?
    I'd like to know too. I'm close myself but local leves are being stingy. 15k lancer marks but 4k leather.

  5. #245
    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    my leves hate me and I have yet to get one with guild mark rewards ;;

  6. #246
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    It's the 4th leve reset in a row that doesn't give me any botany marks <.<

    as for the brass hatchet, i tried the following stuff

    carpentry / blacksmith / goldsmith
    brass hatchet head
    ash haft / maple haft
    animal glue / fish glue / horn glue
    no strap / sheep / sheep(taupe) / sheep(grey) / dodo / dodo(black) / buffalo leather straps

    and nothing worked.... getting a little pissed here.
    No recipe for the r12 hatchet, a wrong one for r22, no recipe for r27 scythe and for the 32 hatchet there is no recipee for the hatchet head, yeah botany is great -.-

  7. #247
    F5 Like A Boss.
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    I have not gotten a single Armorer guild mark through a crafting leve. Really want that chainweaving skill. :/

  8. #248
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    Yeah I've gotten like a grand total of 800 (aka it happened once) from leves so far.

  9. #249
    The Real Cookiemonster
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    Hope I haven't failed the search function too hard.

    I want to make spectacles, but I am completely unable to find out how to acquire/craft that clear glass lens. Anyone know?

  10. #250
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    I am 99% sure members in my guild have brass hatchets. We have two botanists in high 20s iirc, or one might be rank 30 by now. I don't personally know the recipe but am sure I could find out. Are all the databases wrong on the recipe or something?

  11. #251
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuitton View Post
    I think this is tricky because the Beeswax synth is rank 1 but I was able to grind it up to rank 15 and even then it was still giving on average 150 points per synth. 200 at 14, and like 125 at 16. I basically stopped grinding Distilled Water at rank 10 because the points plummetted and switched to Beeswax for 5 ranks.

    At the point I switched to crystals->shards which was good until rank 20, and now I am doing olive oils, table salts, and maple syrups. Maple Syrup is amaaaaaazing. 300 points per synth at rank 21 and it is fairly easy. Only requires maple sap and 2 common shards.
    Fair warning, you should keep doing Crystals -> Shards till about 24, you're going to regret wasting all that maple sap when you hit 25+ and realize it's the only worthwhile skillup item until 30 after the shard synth starts giving sub 100 xp.

    Yes maple sap is common, but it's not common when you need over a thousand of it. Post 25 Alchemist becomes incredibly material constrained, to point I have to farm trees for about 7-8 hours to get the materials for a single level(well shouting everywhere I go for more sap paying 1500 per...).

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    So am I missing something or is it not possible to skill up on synths that give more than 270~ xp per synth?

    It's not terrible right now, (I'm 20 armorer) but as the sp per lvl goes up its going to be insane. Especially if they go the ffxi route and the cost of skill up per synth is millions of gil. (Think clothcraft and blessed briults in the big 90s) U guys skill up with better yielding synths? Maybe I just need to experiment more?

    Also I'm talking about maintaining at least a 80% success rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyrabbit View Post
    It's the 4th leve reset in a row that doesn't give me any botany marks <.<

    as for the brass hatchet, i tried the following stuff

    carpentry / blacksmith / goldsmith
    brass hatchet head
    ash haft / maple haft
    animal glue / fish glue / horn glue
    no strap / sheep / sheep(taupe) / sheep(grey) / dodo / dodo(black) / buffalo leather straps

    and nothing worked.... getting a little pissed here.
    No recipe for the r12 hatchet, a wrong one for r22, no recipe for r27 scythe and for the 32 hatchet there is no recipee for the hatchet head, yeah botany is great -.-
    Try some different haft heads? Its a higher lvl tool and usually the mats are higher lvl than the tool itself. Ash and maple are pretty low lvl maybe try elm or cedar or oak?

  14. #254
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    Quote Originally Posted by CasualPlayer View Post
    So am I missing something or is it not possible to skill up on synths that give more than 270~ xp per synth?

    It's not terrible right now, (I'm 20 armorer) but as the sp per lvl goes up its going to be insane. Especially if they go the ffxi route and the cost of skill up per synth is millions of gil. (Think clothcraft and blessed briults in the big 90s) U guys skill up with better yielding synths? Maybe I just need to experiment more?

    Also I'm talking about maintaining at least a 80% success rate.
    My skill up so far has consisted of Copper Ingots > Copper Wire > Copper Rings | Bronze/Brass Wire > Bronze/Brass Rings > Bronze Chain | Iron Ingots > Iron Wire > Iron Rings > Iron Chain, which is the cheapest way to skill up I've found... There's also Brass Nugget > Brass Square > Brass Vambrace Plate etc, which is great for all of those extra squares you end up with after completing a leve with 100+ affinity.

    What have you been using so far?

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    I've been making bronze buckles since about 14,15. Even at 20 they still give 250ish per synth but if that's the max we can successfully get its going to be really rough towards the end.

  16. #256
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    So I probably won't get an answer before I sleep but I'll leave this here. Dinged 20ARM tonight and wanted to try some Haubies because I've seen other ARMs making them around them, but I just got my ass handed to me. Unstable element on my first fail, and chainblew the rest, didn't get past 30%. So I gotta ask, is it that much of a crapshoot, or can I get by if I use synth support, or did I just have terribad luck? Couldnt get it to stabilize back to white orbs but once or twice after the first fail too.

  17. #257
    the whitest knight u' know
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    I'm not an Armorer by any means, but what abilities do you have/use?

  18. #258
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    All I've got is Blinding Speed, which is pretty much shit, since all it does is help Rapid Synth, making it just slightly less abysmal. I have a little left to go to get to TAN10, which I'll probably do before I make another attempt, since Fulfillment helps success all around. Tried another with common support just to see and it worked a little better, but wanna hear from someone who's tried it at 20 and figure out what I''m doing wrong, if anything, be it something as simple as support or stupid as "wtf you trying at 20 for?"

    Doubt its the latter though.

    EDIT: And I don't trust YG's listing, especially since I've seen it change for that recipe (among others) several times.

  19. #259
    the whitest knight u' know
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    Just for reference for those making armor~ Two very easy to obtain abilities for finished items.

    Cooking-10: Harmonize - Reduces sparks for finished items
    Alchemy-10: Preserve - Turns orb white for 4 turns for finished items

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    I've found Preserve and Tender Touch to be the best. Epiphany is horrible.

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