Crafting specific question thread. Moar undyed canvas.

[bruiser]

Just started getting the message "your Armorcraft skill bonus increases." after synths. Any idea what triggers this / what it does? Hasn't had a noticeable effect on my skill gained post-synth.

You hit surplus. Notice now your skill bar is also yellow. This is the fatigue system everyone is talking about. in my experience, your skill bonus decreases by about 20% after the first message, and then gets progressively lower and lower until it's 0.

Notice how the message you get is completely opposite of what happened. That's SE for you. Makes it sound like you're doing better or something, when actually it means "haha you're fucked."

[BerenTebogo]

Oh shit. Better stop then, lol.

[miokomioko]

I would just keep going into fatigue until the skill gain is no longer worth my time.

[BerenTebogo]

Is there a universal fatigue reset? I haven't been keeping up with it.

[Crizto]

I think each separate class has its own fatigue timer, not a global one like Leves.

[Atlasion]

Does anyone know what exactly synthing support does? I know some synths require it, but what about ones that don't? I've been using it for synths that are the same or higher than my lvl, but its hard to notice much different with random failures and whatnot.

Also, does anyone know if point allocation in elements effects crafting? I just started a blacksmithing synth that uses water shards and fire shards, and I have very few points in water. I've noticed it's a lot harder to craft, despite this one apparently being 3 lvls below mine. Every failure loses about 20 durability..

[miokomioko]

There's still a bunch of debate regarding whether crafting support helps at all with recipes that don't suggest it. The only facts that exists are that it doesn't not temporarily raise your rank, craftsmanship, magic craftsmanship, or control in any tangible way (you can't attempt recipes normally barely out of your range, and your stats don't change).

[Cureslime]

Is there a universal fatigue reset? I haven't been keeping up with it.

I believe the time is one week since you started gaining exp on a job. I've only hit physical exp fatigue and only for the first two weeks so I'm not sure exactly how it's calculated. It disappears completely at that time though.

If you're in the yellow for physical don't even pay attention to it. If you craft your physical level will jump to 10+ levels over your DoM/DoW level even if you play through physical exp fatigue.

[Sephiroth]

I am making sunstone chokers right now for very good exp, and still get half-decent doing brass rings last time I tried. I personally was looking forward to making silver needles, no idea what rank you can start those at.

I might give those chokers a try.

The recipe I saw for the silver needle is apparently incorrect. But I've not tried it. All the 30+ GSMs on my server make silver rings.

[Elcura]

So if people aren't doing canvas at 25, what are they doing?

[Ruin]

Uhh is it just me or is crafting menu lag way worse than its ever been after this patch?

Ive never seen it even close to this bad

[CasualPlayer]

Does anyone know what exactly synthing support does? I know some synths require it, but what about ones that don't? I've been using it for synths that are the same or higher than my lvl, but its hard to notice much different with random failures and whatnot.

There's still a bunch of debate regarding whether crafting support helps at all with recipes that don't suggest it. The only facts that exists are that it doesn't not temporarily raise your rank, craftsmanship, magic craftsmanship, or control in any tangible way (you can't attempt recipes normally barely out of your range, and your stats don't change).

Not trolling.

Pointing out you double negative in case someone unfamiliar with crafting in this game reads this and is confused by your statement.

[CasualPlayer]

New Ask the Dev up on the lodestone. Nothing really exciting to me this time. The last two bullets explained a couple things relevant to DoL and DoH though.

Not sure I understand why thy decided to only let you do one or the other questlines for ARM or BSM. Especially if the quests end up leading to JSE or the ability to unlock traits through guild marks. Unless doing one questline gives you credit for both.

That would be unfair for other DoH classes though...

Edit: Glad they're adding them in Nov. but sucks the other quests for DoL weren't in the game at retail.

[Drakath]

Does using a secondary tool over a primary one ever benefit you in any particular instance?

[Sephiroth]

Sometimes it can give different results. The yellow copper ore recipe is a good example. With offhand you can synth 12 +1 Brimstones with HQ1. With main hand HQ1 is 12 NQ Brimstones.

What I'm unsure of is whether the stats on the main hand and off hand tools stack or if you only get the benefit from the tool you're using. The latter makes the most sense.

[Atlasion]

New Ask the Dev up on the lodestone. Nothing really exciting to me this time. The last two bullets explained a couple things relevant to DoL and DoH though.

Not sure I understand why thy decided to only let you do one or the other questlines for ARM or BSM. Especially if the quests end up leading to JSE or the ability to unlock traits through guild marks. Unless doing one questline gives you credit for both.

That would be unfair for other DoH classes though...

Edit: Glad they're adding them in Nov. but sucks the other quests for DoL weren't in the game at retail.

What are these questlines? I've been lvling blacksmith and amourer and this is the first I've heard of this!

Also, is Hasty Hand worth removing Maker's Muse or Fulfillment for?

[miokomioko]

Hasty Hand is just for speeding up easy recipes. I highly recommend not using it on syntheses that actually matter.

[Sephiroth]

I wouldn't use it on anything that isn't a part. Brass nuggets for example give me 0 SP, yet with hasty hand I still get some 100% fails.

I read on Zam that using bold during a synth gives you more SP. Is there a quality factor in the SP you get or is this bullshit?

[Zeille]

From what I've noticed, yeah it seems to be true.

The higher the quality the better your chances of getting higher SP. It's still governed by the RNG though. Just like how you can HQ with 42 quality and NQ with 342.

[miokomioko]

There's only a handful of abilities (so far) that I would even recommend using on a recipe it isn't meant for.