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  1. #1001
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    Quote Originally Posted by madcow View Post
    I have done 52 Crab bow synths to date. All +3 shell/coral. 12 with +3 spikes, 16 with +2 spikes, 24 with +1. All +1 or better composite bow. (2, +3's and 12 +2's, the rest +1). I haven't seen a difference in off hand/main hand. But I use a +2 saw and only a +1 hammer. I have +2'd on both saw and hammer, +1'd on both, and +3's on saw only. I am not sure if thats coincidence, or what. It's possible because I have a more Vit oriented stat set-up. I think it has more to do with where you get your quality in relation to your touch-ups. all 3 times I have +3'd a crab bow my quality has been around 400 (385,390, 412). Personally I shoot to get to 350 quality+ but still have around 80+ durability left when I finish. You really need +2/3 bows and spikes for this.

    So short answer, imo use whatever gives you highest mag. craft/control. Set your stats up for that tool, and use +2/3 mats on bow and spikes. This will give you a much better chance to +3. Mats are the key to HQing imo.

    The market on this has gone to shit with +2's going for 1.5 mil now so I only try the synth with all +2/3 mats. Even a +2 is not profitable anymore unless you farm all your own mats.
    Thanks for the input! Yeah been trying to get hq spikes to go with this, but my ls lacks a armorer I usually farm the mats, unless can find coral for 100kish. In my server +2 bow is still ok, going for 3-4mil, +1 for 400kish. Which moon phase you usually try HQ, or do you even give a fuck?

  2. #1002
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    Is there any food that gives Control?

  3. #1003
    Falcom is better than SE. Change my mind.
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    I use Fish Miqo'bobs from the vendor in Ul'Dah

  4. #1004
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekoteko View Post
    Is there any food that gives Control?
    Stuffed Cabbage is the rank 50 crafting food that gives the most control. Tuna kabobs as mentioned above are a rank 35 food.

    If you aren't messing with your stats to get tasty/delicious/divine they will probably be pretty similar with cabbage winning out(If you are rank 50, as I assume you are, else why would you want control.)

  5. #1005
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    When I stopped playing ~6 months ago, the stats from my crafting gear did not seem to diminish if my gear was broken (except for the tools). Is this still the case?

  6. #1006
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    Unless they ninja'd it in, no.

  7. #1007
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    Diminished stats (of any kind) from damaged gear don't show in the status menu.

  8. #1008
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Diminished stats (of any kind) from damaged gear don't show in the status menu.
    Right. At the time, many months ago, the consensus was stats "below the line" in the item description did not appear to be affected when gear was damaged. This made crafting and gathering gear particularly immune to the effects of damaged or broken gear as the relevant stats (control, craftsmanship, etc) were "below the line". The tools were the only exception as those stats were listed "above the line".

    My single, non scientific observations last night with tier 4-5 gathering gear did not appear to have a noticeable difference between 0 durability and repaired.

  9. #1009
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    Do we have a sense of what Craftsmanship, Mg. Craftsmanship and Control do yet? Judging from some recent comments, it seems you guys now have a stronger sense of what Control is. Is there a good place to go read about this? Thanks

  10. #1010
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    I think Control was revealed to only have an effect on reduced chances/progression of aetherial sparking. Useless for grinding recipes for skill or local leves. Something one would probably only care about when trying their hardest to HQ something and sparks are killing their success rate towards the end.

    I believe each recipe falls into a catagory where it benefits more from Craftsmanship or Magic Craftsmanship. What has been discovered regarding that, I have no idea. However I wouldn't bother with much testing as the crafting system is supposed to get an overhaul and simplification of sorts in (I think) v.1.19.

  11. #1011
    Falcom is better than SE. Change my mind.
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    I think Control might also effect the chances of an unstable element, but I still haven't found anything to confirm that yet.

  12. #1012
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodr View Post
    Right. At the time, many months ago, the consensus was stats "below the line" in the item description did not appear to be affected when gear was damaged. This made crafting and gathering gear particularly immune to the effects of damaged or broken gear as the relevant stats (control, craftsmanship, etc) were "below the line". The tools were the only exception as those stats were listed "above the line".

    My single, non scientific observations last night with tier 4-5 gathering gear did not appear to have a noticeable difference between 0 durability and repaired.
    Good to know, never repairing my crafting gear again unless it's to hock it.

  13. #1013
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    Edit: Didn't read the earlier posts properly.

  14. #1014
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    I think Control might also effect the chances of an unstable element, but I still haven't found anything to confirm that yet.
    Control definitely does this. Load up on control gear and eat a fish dish, you will notice an immediate change to the unstable elements. Just try a craft 5-10 ranks above your current rank and you will see.

  15. #1015
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    Anyone has any ideas of how to get gold dust outside of combat? I really don't have time to be hunting down people to hunt goblins nowadays.

  16. #1016
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    Here's for the HQers



    Enjoy

    P.S. not my work btw just thought id post it as it holds true until 1.19/1.20 :D

  17. #1017
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    Can anyone point me in the direction of a good crafting guide? specifically for leathercraft > weaver

  18. #1018
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    Old/General and may no longer be relevant in the coming months but it's something:

    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/103206-Crafting-Paths

  19. #1019
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    Looking over the higher ranked BSM recipes, and I'm not seeing anything that looks great to grind on at 42+. Looks like I'm going to try and do as much as I can on old recipes while I can. Any suggestions?

  20. #1020
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamison View Post
    Looking over the higher ranked BSM recipes, and I'm not seeing anything that looks great to grind on at 42+. Looks like I'm going to try and do as much as I can on old recipes while I can. Any suggestions?
    if you have enough shards you can go with silver javelin heads.. silver nuggets are pretty cheap now (ores are sold on npc for 1k each i think).

    the problem with this recipe is that it takes 12 wind shards and 9 fire , and since fine sands are not purchasable anymore shards will probably go up in price VERY fast.. new recipes also take a lot less shards.

    feel bad about not having bough 100 stacks of fine sand, i have over 2k wind crystals and they are completely useless now, except for a few synths.

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