Crafting specific question thread. Moar undyed canvas.

**TacoTaru** · 2011-10-10 15:08

I know this is going to be somewhat of a vague question, but how gathering (fishing specifically) compared to when the game released? I made it to 19 I think before I gave up because it was hours up hours up hours up hours just for a single level and it really wasn't worth doing outside of leves. Is it still that way, or are things a lot better now?

**Datonare** · 2011-10-10 16:17

Hmm, it's changed a little bit. I haven't done fishing much, but for logging and mining, they sped up the animations a bit. Also, I think around 1.18 or before they increased the amount of exp you get? It's changed a bit, but it's still a work in progress.

**NEmINIS** · 2011-10-11 03:52

Did they speed up the animations? Still the biggest part which bugs me about DoL.
The exp buff is nice you level alot faster than since the beginning.
Also in my eyes you can make alot more money that you could before with dark matter and catalysts which drop from nodes (if anyone cares about money still

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DoL have a stealth ability now which lets you gather in stealth but with walking speed.
Personal chocobos own for DoL you can reach nodes so much faster now.

**Wulfgang** · 2011-10-11 14:29

What is everyone doing for Fine Sand now? Converting fish to sea sand and then sea sand to fine sand it not really practical, although it seems to be the only way. Any other tricks for getting my millions of crystals into shards would be awesome. Did not see the patch note about the fine sand change and am QQing.

**Elcura** · 2011-10-11 14:33

Can't you still buy them from Alchemist Guild or did they take those out?

**Kaiyoko** · 2011-10-11 14:34

Originally Posted by Wulfgang

What is everyone doing for Fine Sand now? Converting fish to sea sand and then sea sand to fine sand it not really practical, although it seems to be the only way. Any other tricks for getting my millions of crystals into shards would be awesome. Did not see the patch note about the fine sand change and am QQing.

I bought 10 stacks of it before the patch since I noticed. Only way to get now is from making fish into fine sand from my understanding.

**Dakana** · 2011-10-11 15:49

OH shit they took fine sand out? How the hell am I going to get shards now.

**Wulfgang** · 2011-10-11 17:36

Haha yes, npc no longer sells. There is like no practical way to convert crystals currently.

Telliani · 2011-10-12 12:33

Or clusters. Since they're removing moraine synths.

**Dakana** · 2011-10-12 13:04

Guess I'll start fishing up shitty fish now instead for crafting

**oldoldman** · 2011-10-12 19:07

Does remaining durability factor in to HQing materials or is it just quality?

**NEmINIS** · 2011-10-13 00:55

Only quality i would say. (if it is an item you "touch up" anyway with the durability left)

Anyone know if quality even affect +1 HQs?
I have gotten so many +1's with ~20 Quality just "tuching up" with 50+ durability.

**miokomioko** · 2011-10-13 01:15

I think +1 rates are high enough that you'll occasionally get them completely regardless of quality... +2/+3 on the other hand... good fucking luck unless you have 200+ quality and enough durability to touch-up 5+ times.

**NEmINIS** · 2011-10-13 01:44

I did get a +2 once when i was below 20 Quality it is defenetly possible, but as you said the probability is really low.
I guess you could in theory get a +3 the same way.

**miokomioko** · 2011-10-13 01:53

Yeah, I think it's possible (I don't think it should be), but the odds are probably as low as a fraction of a percent. At least that HQ system is going in the trash (kinda') come next patch.

**oldoldman** · 2011-10-13 02:22

I said materials, shit you can't touch up.

**miokomioko** · 2011-10-13 02:29

It's all the same... which is why the system is horrible to begin with. The amount of steps between raw materials and any end product dwindle away any +3s you may have gathered.

**oldoldman** · 2011-10-13 02:42

So durability has nothing to do with HQ rate? I should just aim for quality?

**miokomioko** · 2011-10-13 02:45

I'm almost certain Quality is what it's all about. Thus, the only reason you would have for trying to balance between Quality and Durability is to have enough to Touch Up with on equipment recipes.

**Manako** · 2011-10-13 10:27

So before last night I had become convinced that it wasn't worth trying for HQ on materials: I'd spend tons of time trying to get high quality and then nothing. I then started doing hasty hand on a bunch of basalisk eggs, and pretty much got HQ1 and HQ2 back to back.

Guessing level must have a big impact too

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