Crafting specific question thread. Moar undyed canvas.

**Niiro** · 2012-04-25 14:52

Would be lovely.

Won't happen.

**Raldo** · 2012-04-25 14:59

Originally Posted by Spider-Dan

I believe great success is also 0 durability loss.

Great success is only 0 durability loss for Rapid anymore. Ever since 1.21, Standard and Careful both always have some amount of durability loss.

**Niiro** · 2012-04-25 15:23

Also Careful's progress and durability loss ranges are static, only thing that changes with success/failure is quality gain.

**Spider-Dan** · 2012-04-25 15:36

Are you saying that there's no difference in (averaged) durability loss between Careful success and Careful failure?

**Niiro** · 2012-04-25 15:39

Once your stats/level are adequate for the synth, careful is 3-5 progress and 7-10 dura regardless of success/failure.

Sparking/instability notwithstanding.

edit: I think it's 4-5 progress actually, someone correct me

**Jamison** · 2012-04-25 15:46

It's that, or very close to it. I only picked back up crafting under the new system a couple of weeks ago. I was surprised how predicable it was. I think 3-5 is right, I very occasionally get a 3 while doing leves.

**Niiro** · 2012-04-25 16:04

Trying frantically to burn thru some leves as to not lose them during renewal, I didn't see any 3%s at all.

Pretty sure it's 4-5.

In retrospect I should have just standard spammed, would have gotten more done, but whatever.

**Jamison** · 2012-04-25 17:51

Originally Posted by Niiro

Trying frantically to burn thru some leves as to not lose them during renewal, I didn't see any 3%s at all.

Pretty sure it's 4-5.

In retrospect I should have just standard spammed, would have gotten more done, but whatever.

I've done 4 levels of BSM recently, and it may be gear/stat related, but I absolutely sometimes got 3's. It became less common the higher I got.

**Raldo** · 2012-04-26 09:46

I can also confirm 3s, but this is pre-patch evidence.

**Niiro** · 2012-04-26 15:57

Bold Endeavor is broken, it only lasts for 1 synth.

edit: nor does it ensure great success for that matter

edit again: Sure and Steady is broken as well, only works for 1 synth

**Raldo** · 2012-04-26 16:09

Originally Posted by Niiro

Bold Endeavor is broken, it only lasts for 1 synth.

I'm also told it's just a normal success, rather than a great success.

**Sigmakan** · 2012-04-26 16:24

Makes sense for a R30 ability. Great Success for 3 turns would be OP

**Niiro** · 2012-04-26 17:19

Someone forgot to tell the people who write the game text as well as the patch notes.

**Spider-Dan** · 2012-04-26 17:23

We all sound like a bunch of idiot Borat fans, talking about how we should have 3 turns of Great Success.

**Raldo** · 2012-04-26 19:31

In case anyone hasn't crafted yet and is curious, the abilities simply labeled as "ensures success", also apparently can result in what we usually refer to as "neutral".

**miokomioko** · 2012-04-26 19:46

So "success" means "not a failure." heh

**Niiro** · 2012-04-26 20:00

Called it.

**Niiro** · 2012-04-26 20:16

Also what in the hell is the point of being able to equip 10 abilities any more?

"I could plan ahead and equip 5 appropriate abilities that compliment one another for this synth or.....I could slap on 10 and get a random fuck distribution of possible shit!"

**Spider-Dan** · 2012-04-26 20:48

^^ Seriously.

Do the 5 abilities displayed at least change from action to action? If not, it's literally worse to equip 6+ abilities than it is to equip 5.

**Raldo** · 2012-04-26 20:58

Originally Posted by Spider-Dan

^^ Seriously.

Do the 5 abilities displayed at least change from action to action? If not, it's literally worse to equip 6+ abilities than it is to equip 5.

I was defending them when they announced this change because I assumed they would change per synth action like you said. That is not the case.

It is literally worse to equip 6+ abilities.

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