Miner Class Discussion Thread

[Jamison]

Goodr, if you or Mioko could go ahead and start a FSH thread, I'll see if a mod could merge the appropriate posts over to it.

[goodr]

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/101...read?p=4295171

All done

[Sephiroth]

I no longer get heliodors in 30 leves at Ul'dah, and not seen any tier 2 gems elsewhere either. Can you still get them in grade 4?

[Zettofaia]

I can confirm that Heliodors and Sphenes can still be mined from Nophica's Wells (grade 3), maybe you're not high enough or unlucky? It does feel as if they're more rare than before now. :/

You should also know that all rare items can only be mined from specific nodes, so if you don't touch say, the Heliodor's node you won't even get an attempt at it no matter how long you mine in the area.

[Sephiroth]

Oh I've not actually mined Nophica outside of the 30 leves, but before the November patch I got heliodors loads of times. I guess it's just leves they were removed from then.

[Zettofaia]

No they still exist in leves as well, it's just that all gems seem a lot more rare now (and highly subjective to your rank?), not only that but since they're associated with specific nodes it can impossible to mine them sometimes, say, for example if all the nodes that has them are down (used to happen to me a lot in camp Glory -with one specific gem- pre-patch)

[Jamison]

I PM'ed a mod asking if it was possible to move some of the fishing-specific posts over to that thread. You may see some posts disappear from this one.

I just realized (and I know it was talked about earlier) but with the "Truth of ..." abilities changed for BOT & FSH, I no longer plan to get each of them up to 30. IMO, Mountains is the only one worthwhile.

[Sign]

Anyone know where to get Maple Branches around LL now? I used to get them around Grade 1 LL but I just spent an hour and haven't seen any Maple Logs/Branches.

[Kyroc]

NPC's sell them

[Purplenv]

I PM'ed a mod asking if it was possible to move some of the fishing-specific posts over to that thread. You may see some posts disappear from this one.

I just realized (and I know it was talked about earlier) but with the "Truth of ..." abilities changed for BOT & FSH, I no longer plan to get each of them up to 30. IMO, Mountains is the only one worthwhile.

Truth of Mountains really is pretty slick now.

Targeting some Eagle Feathers for a guild mate, and knew that they were on the yew trees still in Cedarwood, I headed out to see what I could yield.
Quickly figured that the sweat target spot was 1 up from the bottom, and got my triangle setup with the yew tree I needed for the feathers.

With my current rank/gear, I was getting 7 strikes to the grade 4 trees.
Twice during my short stint I had Truth proc after the very first harvest on the node, leaving 6 more strikes with the increased target accuracy.
On this particular tree, for the following 12 strikes, while targeting the Eagle Feathers sweat spot, I recieved Eagle Feather as the loot 12 times. 100%, for what is normally a fairly rare item.

I know from other tests that Truth of Mountain will NOT boost the targeting sweat spot to a hard 100%, as I have still recieved misc. loot with it active, but there is a clear/deffinite benefit from having this ability proc.

[Jamison]

Truth of Mountains really is pretty slick now.

Targeting some Eagle Feathers for a guild mate, and knew that they were on the yew trees still in Cedarwood, I headed out to see what I could yield.
Quickly figured that the sweat target spot was 1 up from the bottom, and got my triangle setup with the yew tree I needed for the feathers.

With my current rank/gear, I was getting 7 strikes to the grade 4 trees.
Twice during my short stint I had Truth proc after the very first harvest on the node, leaving 6 more strikes with the increased target accuracy.
On this particular tree, for the following 12 strikes, while targeting the Eagle Feathers sweat spot, I recieved Eagle Feather as the loot 12 times. 100%, for what is normally a fairly rare item.

I know from other tests that Truth of Mountain will NOT boost the targeting sweat spot to a hard 100%, as I have still recieved misc. loot with it active, but there is a clear/deffinite benefit from having this ability proc.

Glad to hear someone confirm what I've been seeing... the rarer the item, the better Truth of Mountains seems to help. I've had some nice runs that were 9 out of 10 with it. I still see some statistical advantage on common items, but not nearly as significant. IMO, while Sweat of Brow is the ability you want to level BOT for cross-class, if you are BOT/FSH, Truth of Mountains is the one you want to level MIN for.

I'm trying to get some first-hand accounts of what Truth of Forests really does. From the description, it almost sounds like you can be 1-off the sweet spot but still see the benefits. Thing is, I can't possibly imagine where that is useful enough to include over other abilities. I guess if there was a node that had 3 really rare items, all in a sweet-spot-row, that would boost all of them... but still, really?

[YukonWildAss]

Can someone please explain what the triangle I've seen a few people mention is referring to? I've missed its meaning while reading this thread somehow!

[Sephiroth]

I thought I'd share my findings on gold sand on the Humblearth 30 leve (3 promising points).

The notch for it is 2 up from the bottom. I'm finding the sweet spot is within the first inner circle but I'd need to test more to see if it's always there. I don't know if it will be the same outside of the leve since leves have their own loot pool.

[Sign]

Can someone please explain what the triangle I've seen a few people mention is referring to? I've missed its meaning while reading this thread somehow!

When people refer to the triangle they mean three gathering nodes that are near eachother so that you can run from one to the next and by the time you are done the third the first node is ready to gather again. So in essence you just run in the shape of a triangle from point to point only worrying about those 3 nodes.

[Purplenv]

Can someone please explain what the triangle I've seen a few people mention is referring to? I've missed its meaning while reading this thread somehow!

We call it a triangle because the way DoL is setup, harvesting nodes lock you out, once depleated, untill you harvest 2 other nodes, of any type.
As a result, often the most efficient route for grinding DoL SP, is a tightly packed cluster of three nodes, which in turn, will have 3 running paths, forming a triangle shape.

Gold Sand is definitely -3, and is also VERY often at the <25% on the swing bar. I will essentially spam enter on the swing to get it very small in the target circle. This works over 50% of the time, on the nodes I usually hit, and since I have 3 swings per gold sand, I will adjust as needed when it is elsewhere.

[YukonWildAss]

Thank you very much for the responses Sign and Purplenv. I've generally been leveling Botany through leves but I'm going to try finding 3 nodes and give leveling that way a shot. Thanks again

[Sign]

What I have been doing (keeping in mind that leve nodes are separate from normal nodes I believe) is to just jot down co-ordinates of Logging and Mining points I see as I run around the fields doing leves, grinding DoW, etc. That way when I want to grind DoL I just look at my notes and find a few points that are fairly close together and use them to form the triangle. Also, at first make liberal use of your abilities to identify location and distance of nodes.

[Shadowrunner]

Anyone else happy that Quick now gives a timer for how long is left? Haven't had a chance to see if it's all buffs now or if it's just Quick, but i find it nice

[Null]

All things give info which is very nice. Even food tells you how long it will last. Best thing about this for me is that Kolblobs aren't as abundant near iron lake. Always bothered me while doing logging leves there.

[Sephiroth]

Is it possible to dig up more than one gold sand at a time? I had king's yield on and still only got one.