Miner Class Discussion Thread

**jwang** · 2011-02-24 06:21

Is there anywhere where I can find a list of sweet spots for all grades of ores and lumbers like they have for fishing? Also, is it just me or certain lumbers and branches specific to certain types of trees?

Edit: nvm, I just didn't look hard enough.

**Purplenv** · 2011-02-24 09:10

You want Oak branches from Pine trees?
IMO SE did a great job with the logging/trees and aligning loot tables with the graffical representation of the tree node.

Every logging point will have the base Log and branch maited set, then the rest of the loot table is determined by the area/grade/random selection.
Generally a feather, cullinary item, and maybe something else semi-usefull.

For mining, I hate that there is really no indication if the node is silver or iron based, which seems to be the base for most nodes, then other items stacked ontop.

**Zettofaia** · 2011-02-27 08:42

I finally decided to put fishing on hold this morning and complete the remaining 3 zones, the information should be fairly accurate now.

Treespeak

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Dragonhead

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Iron Lake

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Halatali

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NOTE: I still have doubts about nodes 28, 18, and 34 in Iron Lake.

18 and 28 can either be yellow or orange, while 34 can be yellow, orange or white.

I could use more data to confirm these nodes, so if you run by any of them and get anything beside Limonite and Iron Sand please let me know, that will confirm which group the node belongs to.

**Sephiroth** · 2011-02-27 13:33

Very nice graphics.

I've been wondering at what rank gold ore becomes easier to dig up? At 37 it's still a difficult dig, with only two shots at it and I've managed to break it even by hitting the same spot as my first strike on one occasion.

Does gold sand ever become a one hit dig?

When do tier 2 gems get a third attempt? It seems SE made these harder to dig when they changed gathering in November.

**Zettofaia** · 2011-02-27 13:42

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Very nice graphics.

I've been wondering at what rank gold ore becomes easier to dig up? At 37 it's still a difficult dig, with only two shots at it and I've managed to break it even by hitting the same spot as my first strike on one occasion.

Does gold sand ever become a one hit dig?

When do tier 2 gems get a third attempt? It seems SE made these harder to dig when they changed gathering in November.

You never get a fourth strike at Gold Ores unless you go full out on gathering gear/food, but you start one-shotting it occasionally at 48~50 (I'm sitting at 133 gathering w/o food, but I usually change boots for Toadskin for the extra attempt, so 116~133), Gold Sand becomes a one hit somewhere between R40~45, I don't really remember, but you still won't get a fourth attempt/strike at it. Tier 2 gemstones will occasionally give a third strike between 48-50, you will also be one hitting all of these ores somewhere between 45 and 50.

**Purplenv** · 2011-02-28 09:49

Umm what?

Gold Ores are most definitely 3 swings for me at 49, without any food/HQ tools, even with a Coatee so I get 7 attempts at the node. I have never 1 hit harvested Gold Ore to this point yet. I will often 1 hit gold sand.
As well, since I do BTN and FISH, I'm only using the fishing hat, and canvas work gloves.
Is this possibly a function of my VIT not being low?

As for T2 gems, I generally only get 2 swings for these even still, but will sometimes get a 3rd, at random. (A very small sliver)
They are mostly a 1 hit harvest, even as T2 gems, but randomly will still need 2 hits, some times.

**Zettofaia** · 2011-02-28 11:32

Yea Gold is 3 hits, sorry I was thinking "2 hits to harvest" and got carried away lol, you're right.

Gold Ore will remain at 3 hits but you'll occasionally get a one-swing harvest somewhere between 48 and 50.

As for VIT, I'm probably just seeing things, but I dropped it to base after hitting 50 to work on fishing, the tried mining again and it felt like my chance to get rare items have dropped significantly (see; felt).

**Jamison** · 2011-02-28 20:24

Hey all.. just wanted to say I'm still keeping up with this thread, I just haven't played on miner much since I hit 50 a while back.

Also, Zettofaia, great job with the maps!!! Sorry I went AWOL for a little bit -- had some real life stuff come up and had to put the game on the back burner for a couple of weeks.

**Sephiroth** · 2011-03-01 14:40

Good info. But I don't think either of you mentioned when I'll get that third strike at gold ore! That's a big pain in the ass right now, because with two if I don't hit the right spot with my first swing I'll be breaking it.

SE really need to add grade 6 because I've little motivation in taking MIN past 45 until they do. They added fishing nodes up to grade 20 and on every part of each zone where there's water, even in the far reaches of Coerthas, yet they stopped short on mining and botany nodes. I mean there's recipes in the game for tier 3 gem use, yet there's no way to mine them. It's obvious they'll come in grade 6.

**Zettofaia** · 2011-03-01 19:18

Originally Posted by Jamison

Hey all.. just wanted to say I'm still keeping up with this thread, I just haven't played on miner much since I hit 50 a while back.

Also, Zettofaia, great job with the maps!!! Sorry I went AWOL for a little bit -- had some real life stuff come up and had to put the game on the back burner for a couple of weeks.

Hit me up when you get on next time!

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Good info. But I don't think either of you mentioned when I'll get that third strike at gold ore! That's a big pain in the ass right now, because with two if I don't hit the right spot with my first swing I'll be breaking it.

SE really need to add grade 6 because I've little motivation in taking MIN past 45 until they do. They added fishing nodes up to grade 20 and on every part of each zone where there's water, even in the far reaches of Coerthas, yet they stopped short on mining and botany nodes. I mean there's recipes in the game for tier 3 gem use, yet there's no way to mine them. It's obvious they'll come in grade 6.

If I recall correctly, it was between 38 and 40, I'm positive that 38 is possible with gathering food (or 39, either), and yea it's crazy, a full fishing leve circle nets me around 25k SP, compared to 11/12k SP for mining...

**Jamison** · 2011-03-02 15:39

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

SE really need to add grade 6 because I've little motivation in taking MIN past 45 until they do.

Gil. Lots and lots of gil. (Unless you don't need any). I stopped doing leves and mining through fatigue after rank 40, because it was a far better use of time to make sure I was getting as much ore as possible, and there was no incentive to rank up.

**Purplenv** · 2011-03-02 16:09

Bah gil is so easy, I stopped selling most of the items I used to, simply because I don't care and now have the space to hold onto it.

Back the end of January I dinged 40mil, and challenged myself to make an additional 10mil in the following 7 days. I did it in 5.5 days without depleting any of the materials that had been holding. (all new harvested material sales)

Since then have gradually worked upto 65mil, but with very little effort to do so.

65mil is not a massive amount by any means, and I know plenty that have more, but it is cearly on the higher end of the scale, and I'm content with that position.

My personal motivation to get 50 is basically to be in the best position possible to advance, when the rank cap is increased.

**Sephiroth** · 2011-03-03 17:25

I already have lots and lots of gil so I've little motivation to mine for gil. I have tonnes of gold sand, gold ore, mythril ore and gems that are just sat on my retainer. As a goldsmith I'm trying to hold on to a tonne of that shit for when the level cap is increased and gold nuggets become synthable. But maybe that is a bad idea, who knows? You could say prices will drop as more people can mine it, but when there's a need for gold nuggets you can bet prices will rocket.

**Purplenv** · 2011-03-04 10:41

Mythril will be the next rings, so don't forget about holding onto that as well.

**Sephiroth** · 2011-03-04 11:06

Yeah I figure mythril > gold > platinum too since mythril jewellery already exists. I don't really sell any mining loot right now. Even the iron I'll use eventually on my BSM.

**Purplenv** · 2011-03-04 11:24

I'm selling Gold since our server has insane jumps in prices at times.
Sold 27 Gold Ore overnight, for 44k per...

I'll start saving it again once the price drops.

**Sephiroth** · 2011-03-04 15:27

Man gold ore and sand were only 10k when I was skilling on electrum, ore is 30k now and sand isn't in stock but guessing similar. Maybe I will sell mine too. But I usually prefer to sell it in nuggets so I can go for HQ nuggets. There's 24 nuggets up at 10k each but no clue if they sell.

I think I'll profit, I'm sure price will come down by the time we need gold nuggets because there will be loads of 40+ miners by then, plus we'll be hitting grade 6 where gold mats might even come in multiples.

**Sephiroth** · 2011-03-07 14:01

Originally Posted by Zettofaia

Dragonhead

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I think you may have an error on this one. Node 4 is currently giving me amethyst gems, while node 19 is giving me goshenite and humus. I also got a fluorite on what looks like 14 before it collapsed into 4. Maybe you got the purples mixed up in the loot table list? I also found a yellow node which isn't on there, just round the corner from 12. Hard to describe but if you follow the wall around you get to the narrow bit and it's on that corner before the wall heads east again.

**Zettofaia** · 2011-03-08 18:18

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I think you may have an error on this one. Node 4 is currently giving me amethyst gems, while node 19 is giving me goshenite and humus. I also got a fluorite on what looks like 14 before it collapsed into 4. Maybe you got the purples mixed up in the loot table list? I also found a yellow node which isn't on there, just round the corner from 12. Hard to describe but if you follow the wall around you get to the narrow bit and it's on that corner before the wall heads east again.

You're right, I just re-checked my data...

I got the Goshenite and Amethyst groups mixed up; Goshenit is: Iron ore, Gold sand, Goshenite, Danburite and Humus, Amethyst is; Gold Ore, Amethyst, Fluorite, Limonite and Iron Ore.

I'll need to fix a whole bunch of nodes now that I noticed this, should be fixed in an hour. Thanks for letting me know !

EDIT: fixed the problem -re-upped in the original post- and added the node you found, is it this right position?

Also, fixed the typo in Iron Lake's title.

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**Jamison** · 2011-03-08 19:33

Yup, 22 is right. I'm pretty sure there's one more node north of that one, I'll be home in a few days and can check my notes.

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