Miner Class Discussion Thread

**Jamison** · 2012-02-04 03:52

Dev post from yesterday:

After we revamp medicine, food, and accessories in patch 1.21, we plan on completely readjusting all actions and abilities for Disciples of the Land and Hand in or after patch 1.22.

We will let you know as soon as the direction of these adjustments has been finalized.

Link: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post540060

**Jamison** · 2012-02-22 21:36

Looks like I need something else to do now...

(click to embiggen)

Better camera angle...

I have problems with shadows on my ATI graphics card

**miokomioko** · 2012-02-22 22:08

I'm jealous that your tool is noticeably fancy. You can barely tell that Rod of the Luminary is gold since it's so small/thin and they just used the Gilded Rosewood Fishing Rod model, repainted solid gold/silver; no extra fancy inlays/detailing like everything else seems to have.

**Raldo** · 2012-02-23 10:09

Man, you guys are dedicated. I'm still like... ~25% done with the Botany one 'cuz ughhhhhhhhhhh

**Raldo** · 2012-03-03 17:57

Okay folks! I don't think anyone ever gave us an exact number about the output thing, so in celebration of hitting 50 BTN today, I took the time to determine the exact amount of output needed to get 8 swings on Grade 5.

The amount of output needed is... *drumroll*
114
That exact number is a little strange, as I expected it to be a mulitple of 10, or at very least, 5. I did indeed test 113 output and got only 7 swings.

Please note that the above number was only tested for Botany (both mainhand and offhand) in Treespeak. Yes, I did take into account the fact that mainhand and offhand tools have different output values, and I came up with the same number for them both.

Going to see if I can also find the threshold between 6 and 7 swings.
Data points... editing as I go...
Output 97 - 7 Attempts
Output 87 - 7 Attempts
Output 76 - 7 Attempts ... going to have to test with only my offhand at this point. Mainhand has 82 output.
Output 62 - 6 Attempts ... naked except my tools. Now to try to get back to 7 attempts...
Output 67 - 6 Attempts
Output 71 - 7 Attempts
Output 68 - 6 Attempts ... sorry, this is as good as I can do with what gear I have on me.

**Malekos** · 2012-03-04 23:04

lol I was checking out the very same thing tonight Raldo...had been meaning to for a couple days but I was slow putting together the gear set for it.

In celebration of finally making the gear however, I ran to Hatalali tonight to test the Grade 5 mining node. I was gonna test out the other gathering jobs and other nodes later this week. But whaddya know?

114 output = 8 gathers
113 output = 7

This was on 50 MIN.

As I was making a post about this on my LS forums, I thought "You know, I hope I'm not duplicating effort that I can just find on another forum"...and I found your post lol. I was gonna try to test gathering also to find the lowest value to always 1-hit (given you swing in the general spot), but I'm SUPER slow, so there's no telling when I'll get to it.

**Landsoul** · 2012-03-24 13:34

delete prz

**Niiro** · 2012-03-24 16:08

Plenty, and I didn't know DRGs used pickaxes now.

**Robbinthehood** · 2012-04-14 00:28

wrong thread

**Jamison** · 2012-04-20 09:56

I've been AWOL for a couple of weeks.. someone ninja-edited my thread title!

**Jamison** · 2012-04-25 10:19

Patch 1.22 Discussion Starts Here

Things of note...

Items will be requested by the hamlet militia quartermaster to boost a hamlet's supply rating. (This will also earn an anima boost.) The example given in the patch notes is Kidney Ore from Nanawa Mines.
DoL can participate in the combat phase of Hamlet Defense. Their goals will weaken the invading beastmen. You'll collect alchemical pots and deliver them; different combination of pots will result in different effects.
Darksteel is back! (Mined in Dragonhead). Gold returns to Halalati, and Astral Rocks are a new quarrying item in Dragonhead.

**Raldo** · 2012-04-25 10:31

I am a little confused where these supply items come from. They give a location in the tables by the Hamlet Defense description, but they're not listed anywhere in the "Changes to Gatherable Items" tables.

As always, I will be updating my Botany spreadsheet to reflect the 1.22 changes when I get around to it.

I'm glad I haven't finished my Botany gathering achievement for Iron Lake.

**Jamison** · 2012-04-25 23:01

Nanawa Mines has Grade 5 nodes. So far I've gotten iron ore, silver ore, and a stiperstone (?). Saw someone else get the Kidney ore there.

Emergency maint and bedtime for me.

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Edit: A couple quick notes... stiperstone is at -3 and Kidney ore is at -4. You can get up to 8 Kidney ores at one time. I have a low gathering/high perception build, so it was always taking me 2 successful hits to get Kidney ore.

**Nariiko** · 2012-04-27 01:03

odd... I just came from Nanawa as well before maintenance and I have stiperstone at -1sweetspot with a 1/2(middle)strike zone. This was confirmed by my friend as well... odd. Anytime I got Kidney ore it said it was "above" -1 so I'm not so sure why you were getting -4. (Again maybe I was mistaken I'll check again after maintenance and edit if I'm incorrect)

I was only a r47miner. But players around me were striking up to 10 kidney ore at one time. Can someone confirm if the other ore (electrum/cobalt) per swing has been increased? or is this just because it's 'new' and a hamlet defense item. Thanks!

Edit: Yeah Kidney was -4 50 as stated by feivel and jamison. But made sure to confirm Stiperstone again and it is indeed -1 50.

**miokomioko** · 2012-04-27 01:05

This came up in a general thread, but yeah, all the hamlet request items (Kidney Ore/Spruce Branch/Indigo Herring) can yield up to 10 at a time. This was only allowed because they aren't used for anything else and can only be turned in as groups of 10.

**Fievel** · 2012-04-27 01:09

Kidney ore is definitely -4 for 50 miner, mined up a bunch of stacks earlier.

**Jamison** · 2012-04-27 13:46

I'm not sure if they've changed something about the HQ numbers, or if it's because the new items are a higher level, but my HQ rate is somewhere around 3%, when it hovered around 10% in the past. My perception is 138 so that's not the problem...

**miokomioko** · 2012-04-27 13:51

Yeah, I usually focus all I can on Perception and my HQ rate is pretty much shit on Navigator's Ears and Indigo Herring... and Indigo Herring are not new. ;/

**Jamison** · 2012-04-29 10:22

Has anyone checked what bonus stats (and how much) you get with +1 gathering gear?

**Sigmakan** · 2012-04-29 15:04

For those with the golden pickaxe, whats your gear setup?

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