2010-2011 NBA Season Thread

[Rhinox]

Not even close. Dirk is great and all but Hakeem is the greatest foreign born player.

Unless Dirk retires in the next three years he will surpass Hakeem in Points in fact if he keeps pace he be top 5 scoring all time.

[Dimmauk]

Not even close. Dirk is great and all but Hakeem is the greatest foreign born player.

http://www.nba.com/media/allstar2006...300_060201.jpg

Tim is the greatest foreign born player.

[Rhinox]

http://www.nba.com/media/allstar2006...300_060201.jpg

Tim is the greatest foreign born player.

[jimbo]

Two names


Dirk is the greatest foreign born player and Sabonis is the greatest international player to play the game sorry

Point God



Unless Dirk retires in the next three years he will surpass Hakeem in Points in fact if he keeps pace he be top 5 scoring all time.

scoring more points doesnt mean he'll ever be better than the dream.

[Rhinox]

scoring more points doesnt mean he'll ever be better than the dream.

No. but his PER will and its already better

[Azull]

While I will acknowledge the greatness of Duncan.. wasnt he born in the US Virgin Islands?

As for Dirk, yes he is a great scorer and will most likely pass Hakeem on the all time scoring list. Basketball is a lot more then just scoring, if it wasnt then AI would be considered one of the greatest of all time. Hakeem was one of the most well rounded players of all time and every bit the offensive force that Dirk has been for his career while being a far better defensive force. He could, quite literally, do anything.

[Azull]

No. but his PER will and its already better

Ok Hollinger, PER is very favorable to offensive stats while not taking into much account defensive ones. By using the PER logic Dominque Wilkins is the by far the greatest foreign born player.

[Rhinox]

While I will acknowledge the greatness of Duncan.. wasnt he born in the US Virgin Islands?

As for Dirk, yes he is a great scorer and will most likely pass Hakeem on the all time scoring list. Basketball is a lot more then just scoring, if it wasnt then AI would be considered one of the greatest of all time. Hakeem was one of the most well rounded players of all time and every bit the offensive force that Dirk has been for his career while being a far better defensive force. He could, quite literally, do anything.

two things.

No he wouldn't he was a volume shooter(AI) ala Kobe. Dirk Averages 16 shots a game and 23 points which is fantastic.

While Akeem was a great defender consider the era. he wouldn't be allowed to get away with a lot of what he was getting away with.

[Rhinox]

Ok Hollinger, PER is very favorable to offensive stats while not taking into much account defensive ones. By using the PER logic Dominque Wilkins is the by far the greatest foreign born player.

No. Dirk would

Dominique: 21.6
Dirk: 23.7

[Dimmauk]

The virgin islands still count as being foreign born, unless they can vote on presidents? IDK, you tell me.

[jimbo]

if you would drafting and every player in nba history was on the board and you had a choice between hakeem or dirk, you take hakeem every fucking time

[Rhinox]

if you would drafting and every player in nba history was on the board and you had a choice between hakeem or dirk, you take hakeem every fucking time

No. I'd take Shaq, Wilt, and Bill Russell.

[jimbo]

between those 2 lol

[Azull]

My mistake.. you are right on PER. Dirk has a higher one then 'nique. He is also an amazing .14 ahead of Dream despite not going though his end of career decline yet.

As for Duncan, he was born a US citizen so i dont really consider that foreign but, if you do then he would take the cake.

[Rhinox]

between those 2 lol

you said Draft with any player in history. I'll take Dirk if this was really a fantasy draft I would more then likely have a Center who was better then Akeem.

[jimbo]

i also never said what pick or who else was on the board, i thought i typed it up better where the choice was between just those 2 foreign born players and you were on the clock but i didnt

[Dimmauk]

lol Man I can't wait til the .gif show up hahahaha

http://i56.tinypic.com/nveik8.jpg

[Moss]

can someone please tell Kobe to be more dramatic? thanks.

[Dimmauk]

can someone please tell Kobe to be more dramatic? thanks.

Kobe's excuse for getting ownd by a white kid rookie.

"I'm very, very fond of him," Bryant said. "He's a very skilled, all-around player. I think he's going to have a very bright future in this league. He reminds me of a more talented Jeff Hornacek. Jeff couldn't put the ball on the floor as well as (Hayward) can."

Two names


Dirk is the greatest foreign born player and Sabonis is the greatest international player to play the game sorry

Point God

Drazen Petrovic
4x Euroscar POY (1986, 1989, 1992, 1993)
2x Mr. Europa POY (1986, 1993)
All NBA third team
2 Olympic silver medals (1988, 1992)
Olympic bronze medal (1984)
FIBA World Championship gold medal (1990)
FIBA World Championship bronze medal (1986)
FIBA European Championship gold medal (1989)
FIBA European Championship bronze medal (1987)

Compare Petrovic and his international accolades to the other four:

Toni Kukoc
5x Euroscar POY (1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 1998)
4x Mr. Europa POY (1990, 1991, 1992, 1996)
3x Euroleague Final Four MVP (1990, 1991, 1993)
FIBA World Championship MVP (1990)
European Champioinship MVP (1991)
3x NBA Champion
NBA Sixth Man of the Year
All NBA Rookie second team
2 Olympic silver medals (1988, 1992)
FIBA World Championship gold medal (1990)
FIBA World Championship bronze medal (1994)
2 FIBA European Championship gold medals (1989, 1991)
2 FIBA European Championship bronze medals (1987, 1995)

Manu Ginobili
Euroleague Final Four MVP (2001)
2x Lega A MVP (2001, 2002)
Italian Cup MVP (2002)
FIBA Americas Championship MVP (2001)
3x NBA Champion
NBA Sixth Man of the Year
2x NBA all star
All NBA third team
All NBA Rookie second team
Olympic gold medal (2004)
Olympic bronze medal (2008)
FIBA World Championship silver medal (2002)
FIBA Americas Championship gold medal (2001)
FIBA Americas Championship silver medal (2003)
South American Basketball Championship silver medal (1999)

*note: in fairness to Manu, since he’s from Argentina, he’s not eligible for Euroscar POY or Mr. Europa POY. If there was a South American equivalent, we can all be pretty damn sure he would have cleaned up on those awards.

Arvydas Sabonis
6x Euroscar POY (1984, 1985, 1988, 1995, 1997, 1999)
2x Mr. Europa POY (1985, 1997)
European Championship MVP (1985)
Euroleague Final Four MVP (1995)
2x Spanish League MVP (1994, 1995)
2x Spanish League Finals MVP (1993, 1994)
All NBA Rookie first team
Olympic gold medal (1988)
2 Olympic bronze medals (1992, 1996)
World Championship gold medal (1982)
World Championship silver medal (1986)
European Championship gold medal (1985)
European Championship silver medal (1995)
2 European Championship bronze medals (1983, 1989)

Pau Gasol
3x Euroscar POY (2008, 2009, 2010)
2x Mr. Europa POY (2004, 2009)
2x FIBA Europe POY (2008, 2009)
FIBA World Championship MVP (2006)
EuroBasket MVP (2009)
Spanish King’s Cup MVP (2001)
Spanish League Finals MVP (2001)
2x NBA Champion
4x NBA all star
NBA ROY
2x All NBA third team
All NBA Rookie first team
Olympic silver medal (2008)
FIBA World Champion gold medal (2006)
FIBA European Championchip gold medal (2009)
2x FIBA European Championship silver medals (2003, 2007)
FIBA European Championship bronze medal (2001)

*note: the FIBA Europe POY is a relatively new award that has been given out only since 2005

Interesting stuff there.


Also,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Grea...e_Contributors

[Rhinox]

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/feature...ots/index.html

Great article by Steve Aschburner.