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    1 and 7/8ths. Whatever, still led the bulls in every category that year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    This is what I don't get. Why do people say "WELL JORDAN HAD PIPPEN WHILE LEBRON HAD NO ONE OH GOD"..

    Did people stop to think that MAYBE Jordan elevated his teammates? Made those around him better, and Pippen had enough skill behind him to actually go up to a Hall of Fame level? and maybe LeBron just isn't good enough to do that? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Pippen's stats drop off a bit once Jordan left and Pippen left to Houston? Just sayin. Without Jordan, I don't think Pippen would have sniffed the HoF.

    @Tyche.. Like a Top 5 player? He played one year in Chicago without Jordan...
    pippen was an mvp candidate the year jordan was gone, and after jordan retired, he was getting old.

    I have serious doubts that some of you know your 90s history and how good the bulls were even without jordan.

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    Jordan also had the best rebounder in NBA history (and he was that good long before he stepped on a court with Jordan). Not trying to diminish Jordan, just saying he was also surrounded by greatness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    This is what I don't get. Why do people say "WELL JORDAN HAD PIPPEN WHILE LEBRON HAD NO ONE OH GOD"..

    Did people stop to think that MAYBE Jordan elevated his teammates? Made those around him better, and Pippen had enough skill behind him to actually go up to a Hall of Fame level? and maybe LeBron just isn't good enough to do that? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Pippen's stats drop off a bit once Jordan left and Pippen left to Houston? Just sayin. Without Jordan, I don't think Pippen would have sniffed the HoF.

    @Tyche.. Like a Top 5 player? He played one year in Chicago without Jordan...
    I agree. DRose isn't good enough to elevate his extremely talented teammates to potential MVP status.

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    this whole argument is fucking retarded.

    Did the heat acquire Lebron on draft night?

    Some of ya'll niggas don't remember pippen before he was pippen.

    Acting like Pippen was prime Pippen when he came out of college.

    Nigga couldn't get off the bench his first year. He was Defense first SF who developed an above average offensive game 4+ years into his career.


    Who did Lebron help develop? Boobie gibson? bitch please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kibble View Post
    I agree. DRose isn't good enough to elevate his extremely talented teammates to potential MVP status.
    ITP:1 year with baby jordan = 5+ years with MJ

    get the fuck out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Jordan also had the best rebounder in NBA history (and he was that good long before he stepped on a court with Jordan). Not trying to diminish Jordan, just saying he was also surrounded by greatness.

    Greatest rebounder in NBA History wasn't the Greatest Rebounder in NBA history.

    Nigga got traded for Will fucking perdue


    Edit: IN HIS PRIME

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    this is great. lebron isn't making his teammates better because his teammates sucked.

    steve young sat on the bench his first couple years too - guess he sucked.

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    Pippen finished the 1994–95 season leading the Bulls in every major statistical category — points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks — becoming only the second player in NBA history to accomplish this
    Pippen sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinox View Post
    ITP:1 year with baby jordan = 5+ years with MJ

    get the fuck out
    ITP: mad

    I thought the extremely talented part made it pretty obvious that was sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Pippen sucks.
    well obviously he was only that good cuz he played with jordan for a few years. He was a scrub bench player otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinox View Post
    Greatest rebounder in NBA History wasn't the Greatest Rebounder in NBA history.

    Nigga got traded for Will fucking perdue


    Edit: IN HIS PRIME
    Lol...tell me, how'd that work out? Last I checked, Chicago followed up that trade with the best regular season in NBA history and Rodman led the league in RPG and was first team all defense

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    It's bad for the game. I would have loved to see LeBron win a championship. I just lost some respect for him after "The Decision" and his move to Miami. Plus 06 Finals, nevar forgit!
    That is the game now. Look at how the Knicks are setting themselves up, and how we are wondering which superstar other superstars will be joining within the next 2 years.

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    The decision was bad, the miami celebration was bad, but it really means nothing now

    I'd do some pretty dumb shit if I were making 20m a year too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinox View Post
    Curious how did the bulls get pippen? was it through free agency?
    draft trade.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Did people stop to think that MAYBE Jordan elevated his teammates? Made those around him better, and Pippen had enough skill behind him to actually go up to a Hall of Fame level? and maybe LeBron just isn't good enough to do that? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Pippen's stats drop off a bit once Jordan left and Pippen left to Houston? Just sayin. Without Jordan, I don't think Pippen would have sniffed the HoF.
    Yes, pippen won't be HoF if he never played with Jordan. If you've watch the documentary about Jordan (or Pippen) before, Jordan did say that ever since Bulls get Pippen from draft trade, he already plan to train Pippen into another MJ, if no just have the performance close to himself.

    And ppl seem don't understand, during Jordan period, he will fuck his teammate sucking hard if his teammate doesn't play well/hustle enough in any game. As quote from Horrace Grant, he never like Jordan because how he treat his teammate.

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    LeBron is a bitch.

    Dirk hasn't left the two times he could have, and even took way less money so Dallas could sign other players. Dirk wants nothing more than to bring a championship to the city that has treated him so well, even if they could never deliver him another Allstar team mate after Nash left.

    LeBron was royalty in Cleveland, and his own team did everything to make him happy. He even had the power to delay the team jet. Then LeBron spat on them and left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man0warr View Post
    LeBron is a bitch.

    Dirk hasn't left the two times he could have, and even took way less money so Dallas could sign other players. Dirk wants nothing more than to bring a championship to the city that has treated him so well, even if they could never deliver him another Allstar team mate after Nash left.

    LeBron was royalty in Cleveland, and his own team did everything to make him happy. He even had the power to delay the team jet. Then LeBron spat on them and left.
    cleveland could give lebron everything but what he wanted - a championship.

    dont be stupid. leaving a city isn't a bad thing. the way he did (the decision) was, but leaving in itself is not a bad thing.

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    LeBron is a bitch because Dirk is satisfied with mediocrity. Got it.

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    And don't act like the team bent over backwards for Lebron. You realize how much fucking $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$ he brought into that city and Dan Gilbert. Lebron paid his debt several times over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man0warr View Post
    LeBron is a bitch.

    Dirk hasn't left the two times he could have, and even took way less money so Dallas could sign other players. Dirk wants nothing more than to bring a championship to the city that has treated him so well, even if they could never deliver him another Allstar team mate after Nash left.

    LeBron was royalty in Cleveland, and his own team did everything to make him happy. He even had the power to delay the team jet. Then LeBron spat on them and left.
    Yup, and Cleveland has the same payroll as Dallas?

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