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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinox View Post
    its not about stats I'm just saying how retarded you are. you forgot to mention that Magic had 2 Hall of famers with him that allowed him to create. KAJ and Big game James.

    D-Rose doesn't have that luxury.

    I'll let you in on a little secret.

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    He played with at least one hall of famer every year he was in league except his post hiv season.



    The pressure wasn't on him as it is on Rose.
    Or were they hall of famers because they were with him?

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    But hey I guess taking 4 more shots a game than magic is the difference between a true point guard and AI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    Or were they hall of famers because they were with him?
    Is this guy for real?

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    I mean really

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    anyways....




    Cya after the game,

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    magic johnson got a 42/15/7/3 as a rookie in game 6 of the finals without kareem during an era where they allowed hand checking

    thats only 1 game and its more pressure than anything d rose has had to face so far

    unless you want to talk about when he choke that free throw vs kansas

    stop talking about transcendence, the dude is a young marbury with more winning and less crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinox View Post
    its not about stats I'm just saying how retarded you are. you forgot to mention that Magic had 2 Hall of famers with him that allowed him to create. KAJ and Big game James.

    D-Rose doesn't have that luxury.

    I'll let you in on a little secret.

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    He played with at least one hall of famer every year he was in league except his post hiv season.



    The pressure wasn't on him as it is on Rose.
    lol, we don't know what having a HoFer along with Rose will do to his game, since he dominates the ball so much from the backcourt all the way to the rim most possessions

    both KAJ and Worthy were great at creating shots for themselves, that Magic still had the ball in his hand all the time and created easy shots for them speaks more to his talent as a true PG, not less

    just look at them both on fast breaks, Magic hangs back to find an angle to pass, while Rose attacks the basket and lays it up himself. there are other examples but come on, educate yourself

    and i'm not sure what you are trying to say with your "little secret" but
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    when Magic didn't have another HoFer during his "hiv season" his game still didn't change from looking to pass to looking to score; less you think it's because he can't, he still took his team to the best record in the conference and NBA Finals that year

    true PGs like Magic, Nash and CP3 don't need the "luxury" of HoFers as a prerequisite to have the pass-first mentality

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRT View Post
    lol, we don't know what having a HoFer along with Rose will do to his game, since he dominates the ball so much from the backcourt all the way to the rim most possessions

    both KAJ and Worthy were great at creating shots for themselves, that Magic still had the ball in his hand all the time and created easy shots for them speaks more to his talent as a true PG, not less

    just look at them both on fast breaks, Magic hangs back to find an angle to pass, while Rose attacks the basket and lays it up himself. there are other examples but come on, educate yourself

    and i'm not sure what you are trying to say with your "little secret" but
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    when Magic didn't have another HoFer during his "hiv season" his game still didn't change from looking to pass to looking to score; less you think it's because he can't, he still took his team to the best record in the conference and NBA Finals that year

    true PGs like Magic, Nash and CP3 don't need the "luxury" of HoFers as a prerequisite to have the pass-first mentality
    ah according to you a true point guard would do this



    instead of this



    Yeah I'm okay with the latter.

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    http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../gamelog/1996/

    those are some mighty look first assist numbers right there. first round knockout btw this is his HIV season.


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    lol, what's with your victim complex? i'm completely fine with Rose's game too, it's you and your "D-ROSE is a true PG hurp durp" that's the joke in here

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    You gotta think you a victim of something to have a victim complex.

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    you don't? why is it you keep defending him then when everybody in this thread seems to like the guy? lol

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    seriously? looks like you're defending Magic the last page and a half mr. victim

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    why the hell do i need to defend Magic?? why does Magic need anybody defending him?? ROFL

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRT View Post
    lol, we don't know what having a HoFer along with Rose will do to his game, since he dominates the ball so much from the backcourt all the way to the rim most possessions

    both KAJ and Worthy were great at creating shots for themselves, that Magic still had the ball in his hand all the time and created easy shots for them speaks more to his talent as a true PG, not less

    just look at them both on fast breaks, Magic hangs back to find an angle to pass, while Rose attacks the basket and lays it up himself. there are other examples but come on, educate yourself

    and i'm not sure what you are trying to say with your "little secret" but
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    when Magic didn't have another HoFer during his "hiv season" his game still didn't change from looking to pass to looking to score; less you think it's because he can't, he still took his team to the best record in the conference and NBA Finals that year

    true PGs like Magic, Nash and CP3 don't need the "luxury" of HoFers as a prerequisite to have the pass-first mentality
    Quote Originally Posted by GRT View Post
    why the hell do i need to defend Magic?? why does Magic need anybody defending him?? ROFL
    I don't know bro

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    oh wait, i get it

    because you don't really understand basketball, you seem to think being called a "true PG" is the same thing as being called great, so the D-ROSE fan in you must tag him with the title

    no dude, all everybody here has been doing is just telling you that you are stupid and can't differentiate between a point guard and a combo guard

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    wow, i just defended Magic Johnson by saying he is better than D-ROSE because Magic prefers to pass on a break, THAT'S HOW HOFers DO IT!

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    I don't know bro
    not a surprise, LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRT View Post

    Nobody said anything about Rose's character/personality, we are talking about his GAME. And like you guys seem to agree, his team is better when he's aggressive, because he's more talented as a play finisher than an initiator, therefore not a true PG. It doesn't mean he can't pass, but his game lies more in scoring, and to his credit he plays to his strength.
    So the fact that he's able to score points means that he isn't a true PG? Lol, wow I guess I've been wrong abut players like Deron Williams this whole time. He is one of the best finishers in the game, so I guess that mean's that he is not a true PG? What about Russel Westbrook? Isaiah Thomas? Tony Parker?

    Perfect example is Gary Payton. In his best season, he averaged 24 points and 9.0 assists, and attempted 1666 shots over 82 games. That's roughly 20 shots per game. Did that year make him any less of a PG simply because he was able to score points and shoot efficiently?

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    I'm done. You're fucking too dumb to handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRT View Post
    oh wait, i get it

    because you don't really understand basketball, you seem to think being called a "true PG" is the same thing as being called great, so the D-ROSE fan in you must tag him with the title

    no dude, all everybody here has been doing is just telling you that you are stupid and can't differentiate between a point guard and a combo guard
    lol, no I got no problem with D-Rose(GOAT) being called a combo guard. I just think It's pretty retarded to use the fact that he scores as a slight against him or any less of a point guard as others.

    I think its hilarious that someone who has probably seen less then a handful of games like to draw conclusions from boxscores and claim he knows basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinox View Post
    lol, no I got no problem with D-Rose(GOAT) being called a combo guard. I just think It's pretty retarded to use the fact that he scores as a slight against him or any less of a point guard as others.

    I think its hilarious that someone who has probably seen less then a handful of games like to draw conclusions from boxscores and claim he knows basketball.
    man, what's the phrase here... starts with a V and ends with an X

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