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[Ryuushin]

Shut your dirty whore mouth, lol. Broke my spear down to 9 again last night, and back to 10... le sigh!

Lol ; ;. What stone did you use?

[Pyree]

2.1 will be on the PTS tomorrow~ Probably the only thing I'll try out will be Talloc's Hallow.. don't really feel like doing a group instance on that server. >.<

[Veyron]

Lol ; ;. What stone did you use?

...a 75 LOL. Current rumor going around is that if you use a stone too high (I've never gone below 80 when trying to go for 11) then they'll break more often than not. Guess that was too low! Back to +10 with an 85.. got another 85 and an 80 left to work with, I'll never get this stupid thing +15'd lol

[Ryuushin]

I consider myself an expert on enchanting :D

It's documented that a LVL70 stone used on a 50 gold = 57%. Lesser supplements add a static 11%

From my testing.. each level will roughly be +/- 2%. I've used 75 stones + the occasional supplements on my weapon and 50 gear which is roughly 67% + the 11%. Going by the percentages they use in the game.. 10% seems to be global failure rate no matter how high of an enchantment stone you use. Same goes with success I believe.

I say that about success because my static cleric +1 her shield with a 40 stone o.o;

Now about +11-15.. according to someone well known, an 86 stone is about 50%~ :X

[Veyron]

Yeah 11-15 is much harder, 14 to 15 being the worst. A friend has gotten his bakarma spear to 14 3 tmes now and alwas uses an 89+ to try to finish.....with no luck, and now its down to +6 I think >< lol

[Ryuushin]

Ouch I'm assuming the regular supplements add 22% and greater add 33%.. No verification though but those supplements are freakin expensive.

[Cloudius]

I tried to +11-15 once with 5 lv80 stones. It went something like this:
Break, proc, break, proc, break. Didnt even get to see +11, and now Im +9 and too afraid to try again.

[Ryuushin]

I tried to +11-15 once with 5 lv80 stones. It went something like this:
Break, proc, break, proc, break. Didnt even get to see +11, and now Im +9 and too afraid to try again.

><. Seems to fuel the the theory about +/- 2% if 86 stone is roughly 50%.

[arus2001]

My old theory was that the +# on the item could pretty much be considered a straight level+ on the item itself. So, with a 50 gold, you'd need to start with an L75 stone for like I guess a 50% success rate if I'm remembering the old starting points right. When you +1 you'll need L76 to maintain the same rate, etc., but using higher stones (and now supplements) would help that chance while still maintaining a minimum fail/success rate. Probably even worse on Eternals or whatever the fuck they call the next shade of orange now. Just get the feeling you wouldn't wanna use anything less than an L90 when going over +10 on something level 50... which probably means you're DEing current top end stuff nobody wants/needs and still getting dud stones out of it.

[Ryuushin]

I used to think that too but I used straight 75s all the way to +10 XD

[Imitarate]

So, checked out a couple of 2.1 things on the PTS. The Shulack coin daily quest I got gave me 20 groggies. This is enough to buy the item you need for the first Adv. Stigma quest... You can buy green weapons for 120 groggies and green armor for 80 groggies, which have the unique models from Steel Rake. Kinda nice addition.

[Corwen]

I consider myself an expert on enchanting :D

It's documented that a LVL70 stone used on a 50 gold = 57%. Lesser supplements add a static 11%

From my testing.. each level will roughly be +/- 2%. I've used 75 stones + the occasional supplements on my weapon and 50 gear which is roughly 67% + the 11%. Going by the percentages they use in the game.. 10% seems to be global failure rate no matter how high of an enchantment stone you use. Same goes with success I believe.

I say that about success because my static cleric +1 her shield with a 40 stone o.o;

Now about +11-15.. according to someone well known, an 86 stone is about 50%~ :X

I assume the 57% success rate from 70 stones on a 50 weapon and the 11% increase with supplements figures were pulled from NCSoft's testing which was based on 100 attempts with supplements and 100 attempts without supplements: http://powerwiki.na.aiononline.com/aion/Supplements . Just know that the sample size is simply too small to indicate the actual success rate of a 70 stone on a 50 gold is 57%, and that supplements are 11%, but it does give an idea of what to expect. With that sort of a sample size the test could have easily turned up figures like 55%/70% which would show a 15% improvement with lesser supplements or 60%/65% only showing a 5% improvement if the test were to have been ran again under the same conditions.

To add a bit of data, since you said there might be a minimum success chance, there does not appear to be one, or if there is one, its very very low. I just extracted a bunch of level 3 white weapons from an NPC, got a total of 81x level 3-8 stones, then failed all 81 times trying to get my stormwing jerkin (Lv 55 eternal) from +0 to +1 with said stones. Oh well, if it did work it would have been a great way to cheese your way to +2 or so on any item in the game by spamming lowbie stones until you hit a streak of 2-3 success in a row. Using stones around the same level as the item level on a gold seems to give around a 20% success rate from my experience, so I'm pretty sure you can go a few levels under before you would bottom out at a 0% success chance.

[Pyree]

Not actually a part of 2.1 that's coming to us Wednesday, this is from the follow-up patch on the KR server that went live two days ago. But there was a pic posted of the new wings that you can get from feeding the new pet!

http://upload.inven.co.kr/upload/201.../i03393312.jpg

http://upload.inven.co.kr/upload/201.../i21805371.jpg

[Pooky]

Not actually a part of 2.1 that's coming to us Wednesday, this is from the follow-up patch on the KR server that went live two days ago. But there was a pic posted of the new wings that you can get from feeding the new pet!

http://upload.inven.co.kr/upload/201.../i03393312.jpg

http://upload.inven.co.kr/upload/201.../i21805371.jpg

Wasn't that patch just put up on Korean PTS? I don't think its live yet, could be wrong though

[Pyree]

Yes, it just went to their PTS recently, I believe on the 2nd. But just like our PTS, a new patch is only on their PTS for around a week before going live. It went live on the 10th.

[Ryuushin]

O.o Looks eternal.. wonder what stats.

[Veyron]

Sexy.. kinda lol. Do they look different on males D;?

[Pyree]

They look the same on male and female, elyos and asmo.

They are eternal, and the stats are:
Flight Time +80
HP +260
Strike Resist +21
Attack +2
Magic Boost +10

[Pooky]

They look the same on male and female, elyos and asmo.

They are eternal, and the stats are:
Flight Time +80
HP +260
Strike Resist +21
Attack +2
Magic Boost +10

Thats kinda....underwhelming for eternal. Its basically Storm Wings with 2 attack and 10 MB =x

[Ryuushin]

Is it known yet on how to get the new pet?

I do like that 2.1 weakens stormwing.. I hope people won't have to use Res Loci to beat it >_>