Dear websites with coordinates

[Ksandra]

I'm not trying to prove any point lol. I just gave evidence that shows that (x,y) isn't universal.

I said by universal I meant all countries follow it on a grid. Did you skip that part? you didn't prove other countries use y,x on grids so you didn't prove anything except you have a hard on for letters over numbers apparently)


I will admit that latitude/longitude are listed as (y,x) but a grid/graphs is (x,y)

So then the debates comes to whether they should be viewed as grids or as latitude longitude coordinates.

I still stick with the (x,y) because ffxi did it and wow does it. They are considered points on a field. you are finding a specific spot in a coordinate, so should be (x,y)

[Vuitton]

I said by universal I meant all countries follow it on a grid. Did you skip that part? you didn't prove other countries use y,x on grids so you didn't prove anything except you have a hard on for letters over numbers apparently)


I will admit that latitude/longitude are listed as (y,x) but a grid/graphs is (x,y)

So then the debates comes to whether they should be viewed as grids or as latitude longitude coordinates.

I still stick with the (x,y) because ffxi did it and wow does it. They are considered points on a field. you are finding a specific spot in a coordinate, so should be (x,y)

and with this we should lock the thread! fuck long/lat! Eorzea isn't Earth.

GRIDS!

GRIDS!

GRIDS!

[bruiser]

LOL Bruiser I got you! You guys are talking about the same thing but you are labeling latitude as Y instead of just saying north/south dealy deally DEALLLY Dohickey or "X". All you guys gotta say is LEFT SIDE (UP/DOWN) FIRST! Then top side (LEFT/RIGHT). Can call it latitude/longitude or an x,y as much as you want as long as you concede that X=Latitude for maps.

I don't know what you mean by "X=Latitude for maps". It's not. When you say latitude 35, longitude 90, you are talking about a position of 35 along the Y AXIS. Y=35. It's not X, I mean it just isn't. I don't know what else to say.

Why would you label latitude as anything other than Y, that's exactly what it is, just like any other graph. The y AXIS goes up and down. But y=5, y=10, or y=1000000 are all HORIZONTAL lines.

FF doesn't use latitude/logitude so lets stop acting like we should be reading the map as if it were organized as such. It uses X and Y coordinates. Its a fucking graph. Latitude and Longitude only work with speherical geographies because there is an equator and four hemispheres to break shit into degrees and minutes which allow people correctly navigate as they can maintain orientation.

lol. Actually it doesn't use anything because it doesn't have a way to give you the coordinates of your current location. So no, it doesn't use X and Y coordinates. But go figure, all the people maintaining the map websites just magically and coincidentally started expressing coordinates in latitude, longitude. Amazing right? I wonder if it's related to the fact that cartographers have standardized on the convention of (y,x) for maps.

I still stick with the (x,y) because ffxi did it and wow does it. They are considered points on a field. you are finding a specific spot in a coordinate, so should be (x,y)

I'm not even opposed to this, but if they do that they need to change the columns to letters. Either way, my original point still stands, which is that the current system makes sense. Just like your proposed system also makes sense.

[Yathatguy]

But ummm...the ummm...world is put on a grid map...they even block it off to look just like FFXIV and FFXI...really... What geographical concepts don't apply? Last time I went out "red-light" map reading it looked just like a grid to me. We even say "GRID COORDINATES NOVEMBER 46.Niner-1" when relaying to special people.

[Ksandra]

I'm not even opposed to this, but if they do that they need to change the columns to letters. Either way, my original point still stands, which is that the current system makes sense. Just like your proposed system also makes sense.

they don't need to do anything, just add <pos> and have it be done and over with. Until then though more evidence supports the idea of (x,y) then (y,x)

[Trinsie]

But ummm...the ummm...world is put on a grid map...they even block it off to look just like FFXIV and FFXI...really... What geographical concepts don't apply? Last time I went out "red-light" map reading it looked just like a grid to me. We even say "GRID COORDINATES NOVEMBER 46.Niner-1" when relaying to special people.

The "this isn't earth so we don't have to use the only system to find a location on a map on the planet earth because it isn't really earth" thing is retarded. I am now not on your side Ksandra. More evidence supports a crap grid system to read a map than the only system we actually have to read maps?

We have a system on earth for reading time also 13:21 on the clock what time is it? Thirteen-Twenty One? Nope in FFXI lets call it Twenty One-Thirteen! I mean it isn't earth it is a fantasy land, we can give the minutes before the hours.

[Carraway]

Latitude and longitude were devised to be able to plot specific points across the surface of Earth, which is a sphere (albeit an imperfect one).

Eorzea is not a sphere. It is a flat world divided into separate grids and subgrids.

[Trinsie]

Latitude and longitude were devised to be able to plot specific points across the surface of Earth, which is a sphere (albeit an imperfect one).

Eorzea is not a sphere. It is a flat world divided into separate grids and subgrids.

I'll remember that next time I walk out into the woods holding a globe to find my way around instead of a flat map with perfect square coordinates read the exact same way.

[Yathatguy]

Eorzea isn't a sphere? But I see stars in the night sky reigning down on me. Should we throw in some altitude as well? They have shades on their "grids" that suggest altitude changes.

Edit: Ummm there is a thing that lets people adjust from the globe to a "grid" map. It's called True North, Magnetic North and grid north. That's what alleviates us carrying a massive globe around with us...

[Carraway]

Stop roleplaying and use common sense.

[Ksandra]

ignore them they are laughing on vent and trying to be douche bags. I'd ban them but I'm biased.

[Yathatguy]

use common sense.

That's all I'm say'n~

[Trinsie]

Stop roleplaying and use common sense.

Exactly use common sense when reading a map, stop roleplaying assumed map reading in imaginary ways.


Edit: P.S. Ksandra switched sides on like late page 2. Can't trust her with all the flip-flopping and side changing. I am sincere in my opinion that it is read lat,lon though

[Yathatguy]

Trinsie,

It's 34:3 do you know where your kids are?

[Trinsie]

Trinsie,

It's 34:3 do you know where your kids are?

Hmmm at 34 past 3 my kids are probably already at the carnival my ex-wife took them to. The little one cant get on the big rides cause she is only 7"3' tall.

[bruiser]

Latitude and longitude were devised to be able to plot specific points across the surface of Earth, which is a sphere (albeit an imperfect one).

Eorzea is not a sphere. It is a flat world divided into separate grids and subgrids.

Stop roleplaying and use common sense.

facepalm

[Carraway]

ignore them they are laughing on vent and trying to be douche bags. I'd ban them but I'm biased.

My whole world has gone topsy-turvy. Is bruiser part of their crew too or is he legitimately a downy?

[Yathatguy]

I thought the little one wasn't yours for sure? Doc says she was BA positive and I thought she was a he since her chromos' were YX?

[Ksandra]

My whole world has gone topsy-turvy. Is bruiser part of their crew too or is he legitimately a downy?

naw just trinsie and rathan.

And I think that's enough.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Nitpick: Eorzea's not a planet.