Final Fantasy XIV Party Leveling Guide

[Rokku]

To me, the wording is pretty obviously on a per-individual basis. While a 25 would receive benefits from the entire range of the 20-30 scale.. the top and bottom would receive less due to being on the outskirts. It's easy enough to test and confirm.

Level range in a crab party for us last night was 21-29, setting the leader as the 21 resulted in an average of 80-100 SP per crab for me as rank 29 LNC, switched the lead to a 25 PUG after about an hour, skill gains jumped to 130-350 per crab. Draw from that what you will, but I think it's actually based on the party lead and not the individual. The 21 GLD was still complaining about lowered skill gains, but there was a noticeable shift in the amount of SP I was earning when the leader changed.

[Celeras]

Level range in a crab party for us last night was 21-29, setting the leader as the 21 resulted in an average of 80-100 SP per crab for me as rank 29 LNC, switched the lead to a 25 PUG after about an hour, skill gains jumped to 130-350 per crab. Draw from that what you will, but I think it's actually based on the party lead and not the individual. The 21 GLD was still complaining about lowered skill gains, but there was a noticeable shift in the amount of SP I was earning when the leader changed.

Fair enough, but 'noticing' a 30SP difference on average seems a bit weird/unreliable to me.. especially with how random it all is mob-to-mob. I'll see if I notice anything next time im out.

[outzaidur]

good thread. too bad there are no english players that actually know how to use the party menu. never ever seen a single recruit in english and JP is all like: LS onry and JP onry.... either you play with friends or you don't party at all it seems.

[Rokku]

Fair enough, but 'noticing' a 30SP difference on average seems a bit weird/unreliable to me.. especially with how random it all is mob-to-mob. I'll see if I notice anything next time im out.

Well, for the sake of clarification, I should have probably mentioned that not once with the leader set as the 21 did I break 100 SP on a crab in about an hour's worth of kills that encompassed probably 60-80 crabs. The minute the lead switched, my SP started falling on 200's almost immediately.

I can definitely understand the skepticism, what with SP gain being random and all that shit, which is why I didn't try to claim it as hard evidence or anything. It's possible what I observed was just dumb luck and I haven't really had the opportunity to check it out again recently, since now no one wants to do any groups with too wide of a range or just for the sake of testing shit.

[Celeras]

Whenever I try to notice differences, I tend to focus on the procs. For instance I had a 24-30 PT(Im 28 and leader) the other day and was getting decent gains, dart procs around 37/tick and heals around 115. A 30/27 leave, replaced with a 25/20.. making the range now 20-28 with me being the highest and still leader. Dart procs were now noticed in the teens/heals for 60-80 on some mobs. On others, there didnt seem to be a difference. I speculate that the party level dropped, so the higher level crabs stopped giving adequate skill while the lower level variety (theyre 35-39) was unchanged.

Then again maybe I just started dissecting things too much because the party changed and I was trying to make comparisons.

[LinktheDeme]

Yeah this update made it so you need to have people in the same area and rank range. Not that bad but it screws up helping lowbies get better exp. :/

Does this mean that only people you can recruit is in the same area or something else?

[Almalexia]

good thread. too bad there are no english players that actually know how to use the party menu. never ever seen a single recruit in english and JP is all like: LS onry and JP onry.... either you play with friends or you don't party at all it seems.

Most NA/EU don't know how to use the search function, it's true. But that doesn't mean they don't want to PT. If you don't mind someone outside your LS/FL, shout in cities or at Aethers of the appropriate rank range. Easy to score people who are bored out of their mind of soloing.

Coming from FFXI, it's a little uncomfortable to resort to this (/sh was always taboo for EXP PT). There is no other option until the search catches on. I think SE should do a Lodestone entry on the search function, like regimen and incapacitation, in order to get things rolling.

[Achitophel]

Yeah, just need to start talking about it, it seems. I'm using the party recruiting tool on Lindblum as I type this, and have no bites. I can't be very bitter, though, because until like...yesterday...I never bothered with searching for a party through the interface, let alone making one.

[Gulkeeva]

Lv27-28 tank with a lv 27-28 healer (perferably conj) duoing hippocerfs west of dragonhead or whatever camp on corethas zone, was pretty decent exp.. many of them and with shell buff, their ranged only hit like 50-60.

about 150-250 exp per kill, very very fast once we both were lv 28.

[Elona]

Efts Efts Efts, anyone know other mobs to sp on these ranks? We did a bit scouting near Limsa r40 levecamps, but didnt find any camp worth sping for. I guess gotta check Uldah when get some reasonable leves there.

Anyway, Treespeaks black efts are a bit higher level than Tamtara Deepcroft and Nine Ivies efts, was still hitting cap at 36 in r31-36 range 7 member pt. Sometimes Ixlan Fencer will spawn instead of Eft, it has strong aoe and sp is little better than efts.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8646/treespeak.jpg

note: Its good to have a member that can cast shell in these parties, we did ok without one last nite with thm healing, so its doable also. But for lower lever parties its a must. Efts front area lightning attack is pretty strong.

Also again, please start using the party search/recruitment system. Its all we got for now. Wish there was a way to make yourself available like in FFXI.

[Arximiro]

I'm looking for some people to do crabs in CH with sometime this weekend on Saronia. If you are interested let me know so I can set it up. I started 2 weeks after CE release and now I'm way behind my LS, it doesn't help that they are hardcore as shit either!

[Eanae]

Island crabs are awful. Three people, 21, 24, and 25. 0 to 50 skill points per kill. Anything GOOD for the 24+ level range?

[Milks]

try adding more people. we had 12 people 21-26 in CH doing crabs and i was pulling anywhere from 375-500 a kill. i am a pugilist though, so that may have made a difference. our mages were crying about getting no exp, but i don't know what that's like.

[Celeras]

Island crabs are awful. Three people, 21, 24, and 25. 0 to 50 skill points per kill. Anything GOOD for the 24+ level range?

Doing it wrong. Seriously, read what Milks said... the more the merrier. When you get a good party setup.. it doesn't really matter what you kill. So long as they're alive long enough for everybody to get their whacks, yet die quick enough to be chainable.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6...shouldlook.jpg

It shouldn't even be possible to get under 50 on a mob (unless its zero, which is attributed to randomness) if your party is setup correctly. That's what I usually get on debuffs, and my 40 damage darts proc for nearly 80.

[Groovebox]

I'll be updating the original post once I hit 30, i'm 28 atm... should be 30 by the end of the weekend.

[Rokku]

Doing it wrong. Seriously, read what Milks said... the more the merrier. When you get a good party setup.. it doesn't really matter what you kill. So long as they're alive long enough for everybody to get their whacks, yet die quick enough to be chainable.

This, completely. I've had feints go off and give me 345 SP a couple of times in a party of 15. Shit is crazy, crabs are an awesome big group mob. So are efts.

[LinktheDeme]

How do people avoid the whole not being able to join in combat and your seek disappearing while in combat? (This is dumb btw I don't even know why it's like this should be bitched at to SE about)

And how do people counter the whole people rarely joining your group through the normal party function because no one uses it? Is there some sort of search function I'm missing?

[Enygma55]

Best way is to put up a recruit and start shouting like ur doing dynamis or abyssea and tell them to join thru the party search. I can barely manage 7-8 people at most when shouting and jobs are not always optimal nor rank spread. Its rough when no one knows it exist. I see tons of JP recruits function perfectly getting 10/14 without having to shout once.

[Twentytwo]

[QUOTE=Elona;4192218]Efts Efts Efts, anyone know other mobs to sp on these ranks? We did a bit scouting near Limsa r40 levecamps, but didnt find any camp worth sping for. I guess gotta check Uldah when get some reasonable leves there.

Anyway, Treespeaks black efts are a bit higher level than Tamtara Deepcroft and Nine Ivies efts, was still hitting cap at 36 in r31-36 range 7 member pt. Sometimes Ixlan Fencer will spawn instead of Eft, it has strong aoe and sp is little better than efts.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8646/treespeak.jpg

Elona, the Piestes west of the bridge on the way to Camp Riversmeet in Corethas are really good, tons of them, no one there (on Rabanastre atleast) and repop quickly, try that out. Theres another Eft camp as far east as you can go in a little circle like area near treespark too, although I'm sure you've found that one.

[Crizto]

I've been using the party recruit/search function a lot over the past couple days and I just want to clarify how it works. If I set up a recruit, I typically will not setup up a purpose, but I will set up a location (ex. Camp Bloodshore), and then set classes to Any and the desired level range (ex. 18 - 23). Now if someone searches, it automatically searches for groups that are recruiting for their specific class? And do they need to be within the required level range as well?
For example...

Jim sets up a recruit at Camp Bloodshore, seeking Any class, level range 18 - 23, and sets a comment.
Bob is a level 19 Lancer, presses the search function and sees Jim recruiting. Correct?
Dave is a level 25 Pugilist, presses the search function and does not see Jim recruiting. Correct?

I've also noticed that you can join a PT from anywhere on the entire server as long as they see the PT in the search. I had a friend join my PT while I was at Bloodshore and he was in Gridania. I really wish this was explained in the Adventure book, because I really did not figure any of this out till literally 3 days ago, and hopefully I have the concepts down so I can explain it to anyone I PT with lol.