FFXIV Flame Wars Thread: because ten threads is not enough threads

[Loaf]

I could point out so too many things in that BFF Report that were obvious exaggerations by him trying too hard to be funny, being a complete idiot, being completely unfamiliar with any game that isn't WoW, or any combination of the 3.

How many of you kept running into the end of the 'stage' when you got control of your character in the Limsa Lominsa intro and didn't immediately understand you couldn't walk/jump off of it?
How many of you decided to repeatedly mashed the attack button every single attack and then bitched about the "bzzt" noise the game makes when you push something that has no function/result?
How many of you decided not to read when the NPC specifically said Camp Bentbranch/BlackBrush/BeardedRock was RIGHT OUTSIDE THE CITY GATES?
How many of you thought it was incredibly stupid that your first quest in an RPG was to kill some rats?
How many of you heard someone crafting behind you and got annoyed at not understanding what the noise was without even looking around.
How many of you could not immediately understand that levequests = quests?
How many of you wouldn't understand what a "linkshell" was, without playing XI, even though the Linkshell-distributing NPC specifically explains it to you?
How many of you sarcastically say "oh, I guess it's talking to me" when the NPC Linkshell is explaining in detail how to embark on your first Guildleve?

Even an idiot like him can point out the gigantic, glaring issues like the Market Wards, Skill Point gains, lack of alternate transportation, and lack of content... but that's all been discussed to death amongst these boards and pretty much agreed upon (aside for a ridiculous few) and that doesn't make it alright for some asshole trying to act like an objective critic to embellish tiny things that are pretty common amongst a number of RPG titles. What?! No auto-attack?! Preposterous! No jumping?! Absurd! A TUTORIAL BATTLE WITH NPC SUPPORT JUST TO KEEP YOU ALIVE OR FIGHT IF YOU PICKED A CRAFTER/GATHERER CLASS? NO WAY CAN'T BE NEVER HEARD OF IT.

It's really funny that you say that the people who dislike FFXIV are too "hardcore" and then insult this guy for being too "casual" to "understand" FFXIV.
Spot on trolling, bro.

[bruiser]

Its warm... God, its so warm.

Edit: Mioko, don't start. At least 30% of that SHOULD have been in at launch; if they wanted a decent review score from any site, that is.

Does anyone know if Famitsu has reviewed them yet?

[miokomioko]

Huh?

[Caestus]

I personally like this game. I would be 100% content if the following issues were fixed:

Lack of an AH
User Interface Lag, including, but not limited to display lag, inability to run while checking bazaars, disappearing text that needs to have up pressed to retrieve it.
The Action bar... do away with it and just have solid cool downs on abilities. It's part of the user interface lag.

I Know content will eventually come, it does in every MMO. But like I said I like the game thus far.

[miokomioko]

At least 30% of that SHOULD have been in at launch; if they wanted a decent review score from any site, that is.

Yeah, yeah, I know, I know... Still. Some people just can't be happy... ;/ It's also little unhealthy to get hopes up this high... to only come crashing back down. That dream patch note is going to take 6 months...

[Whaleporn]

I played FF14 beta, it wasn't hard it was just tedious and boring and poorly made. Also that a few pages ago people were defending square for not having a 'blue post' approach to game design + community outreach suggests they have Stockholm syndrome. You are in the dark ages and you're not only trying to defend your cart against getting a car, you are also trying to say the guy who has an animal to pull his is clearly a casual.

[Caestus]

on a side note FFXIV Pro got elected into a legit FFXIV Fan site. I say way to go them

[Lucavi]

I can be happy. Hell I was happy just reading and thinking about that list. The only thing that made me unhappy was realizing that we'll never see at least 80% of that list while this game is running. Maybe on a private server someday...

[bruiser]

I think you forget how far FFXI has come. All that stuff will happen, it'll just take a long time

[miokomioko]

Yay Archives!

[Silenka]

for all those hoping that because xi was buggy and shitty when it first launched that xiv will be fine later, just remember how buggy and shitty xi stayed for the next 6 years. SSDD

[Shade]

Yeah, yeah, I know, I know... Still. Some people just can't be happy... ;/ It's also little unhealthy to get hopes up this high... to only come crashing back down. That dream patch note is going to take 6 months...

That's... that's the joke....
If we ever even see half of that stuff, let alone in the next six months.

[miokomioko]

It's going to be pretty sad (but true) when we're celebrating the addition of inventory auto-sort. I have a bottle champaign waiting.

[Shade]

I know.
But god I WILL celebrate.

I took an hour the other night to put all my crafting materials in the same relative inventory space....

[Lazytowner]

I'm sure a great many videogame players enjoy 12 hours of Red Dead Redemption or CoD PVP, but I always thought that, too, was just boring as fuck.

Not sure if you're trolli.....fuck it, either way:

I enjoy playing hours and hours of CS, BC2, and Insurgency. I also like playing Red Dead Redemption and shit bricks while playing Amnesia and Metro 2033. Though I thoroughly enjoy playing these games, I also thought FFXI was amazing fun, and I'm also tolerating XIV for the next six months. I'm sorry that you lack the skill to play games with a learning curve.

inb4 "mmos have learning curves", they do, but they're as steep as one of my motherfucking eyelashes.

It's not my fault you have zero hand-eye coordination and constantly convince yourself that playing virtualized versions of Dungeons & Dragons takes more than the intellect of a knuckle dragger to excel.

Yes I'm mad. You are the cancerous side effect MMOs have to gaming.

Also:

Spoiler: show

4.0

FLAME ON.

[Alderaan]

I think you forget how far FFXI has come. All that stuff will happen, it'll just take a long time

And yet none of that knowledge translated in XIV at launch, like it should have.

Even if everything is fixed down the road, you still have a clunky combat system with a lack of freedom of movement. Unless that gets completely changed to something fluid, you may as well keep playing XI.

[bruiser]

Who's talking about should have / would have? I'm talking about is / will be

[Alderaan]

I'd improve the game by completely rebuilding it but there's really no point in the "6 months down the road" outlook.

Better MMo's are on the horizon with everything that most pretty much want in the future in XIV.

[bruiser]

lern 2 reading comprehension, etc.

I'm saying people are often exaggerating the "lol unbearable menu lag in everything just because shitty server-confirmation delays" when they are trying to craft amongst a crowd of 1000 other people during rainy weather with their graphics settings too high for their system.

Nobody is exaggerating the menu lag. It should take less than 100 milliseconds for every menu in the game to pop up on MINSPEC when surrounded by every person on the server. It's unreasonable NOT to expect this, period. End of discussion.

[Achitophel]

What the fuck? When I want to use my hand eye coordination for competition's sake, I PLAY A FUCKING SPORT, not sit around and play Halo online all Saturday.

Funny how you got upset over me just calling it 'boring'. Are you having trouble grasping the concept of different people liking different things? I like video games for long term strategy, not pressing buttons real fast and pretending I've somehow performed some great feat of coordination. But big lols at you.