Obama's get rich quick scheme: Adopting a VAT Tax.

[Egon]

Fuck everyone complaining about taxes. Here in Ontario, we pay 13% HST on everything... And about 20-30% off each paycheque.

That is the very reason why we complain, we don't want to be like you or anything close to it.

[Priran]

I also spell 'noob' with a u. "nopriranb"

Lame joke? Not in my posts.

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[Hyan]

And about 20-30% off each paycheque.

Hahahah

43,5%

So glad I don't live in Sweden.. 49%

But in return... university costs me 0€, and I get 450€ a month from the government.

It's like a hell on earth.

[Egon]

Did you notice that he was talking about raising the quality of life (social services) and not job creation?

Did you know this is a thread about taxes? Besides, my revenue argument should fall right in line with y'alls love affair with social programs. But for some reason it doesn't....

[Kuya]

lol

[Egon]

lol

Let me know if you ever come to KY, I'll buy you coffee at Starbucks.




(For those of you who don't know, when he says "lol," he is letting me know I won the debate.)

[Kuya]

lol

[Rocl]

There is no Starbucks in Kentucky

[Kuya]

Where did America's crazy anti-tax ideology stem from?

[Egon]

There is no Starbucks in Kentucky

Actually there is, Java chip is epic. I think I'll get one now...

[Rocl]

I am just saying I have sampled nectars from a red-state Starbucks and they are simply not up to the douchometer of blue-state Starbucks

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

Do liberals think that cutting military spending will solve our debt problem? So you cut military spending and other spending keeps going up, what then?

And I thought this whole raise taxes on the rich = more tax receipts thing has been debunked.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

Where did America's crazy anti-tax ideology stem from?

Economics.

[Kuya]

lol

[Egon]

Where did America's crazy anti-tax ideology stem from?

I can't answer for the country but my own "crazy idea" came from my wanting a bigger pay check, and wanting a steady stream of those checks. As far as history is concerned, the revolutionary war is a pretty good example.

[Kuya]

It's funny because the Russian revolutionaries tried to justify their stupid ideas by saying it was science.

[Drex]

I'm not an economics genius, but I've seen three studies on tax rates vs. government spending, and every time tax rates have increased government spending has decreased. People pay more attention to what's going on in the government when they are paying more out of their pockets to keep it going, so the government is more careful with what they do with the money so they don't get voted out.

Just sayin'

The numbers they gave were:

'81-'92: federal revenues fell by 2% of GDP, spending rose by .6% of GDP
'92-'00: federal revenues rose by 1.8% of GDP, spending fell by 2.4% of GDP (1.5% if you leave out interest spending)
'00-'04: revenues fell by 3.5%, spending rose 1.4% (2.3% if you leave out interest, and they specified that only half of that is defense/homeland security spending)

When taxes rise, political awareness rises. If that's what it takes for people to fucking pay attention to what their elected officials are doing with their money, hurray I guess.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

I'm not an economics genius, but I've seen three studies on tax rates vs. government spending, and every time tax rates have increased government spending has decreased. People pay more attention to what's going on in the government when they are paying more out of their pockets to keep it going, so the government is more careful with what they do with the money.

Just sayin'

You just articulated why we should eliminate with-holdings.

[Omnipotent]

None of this matters, we pretty much have a recession once every 10 years anyway.

[Cephius]

Do liberals think that cutting military spending will solve our debt problem? So you cut military spending and other spending keeps going up, what then?

And I thought this whole raise taxes on the rich = more tax receipts thing has been debunked.

You 1, Strawman 0