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    Sea Torques
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    um so about ping

    I found this site and in this forum people seemed to be having lower pings and smoother game play, does anyone here use it? any other sites offering the same routing services?

    http://www.lowerping.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6966

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    Mithra Ero-Sensei
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    Don't really see a use for it, just get a better internet

    my green arrow things are about 40-70 solo, 150-180 around people using cable modem from texas... don't really have "lag" issues, except what seems like lag when 50 people are around the aether at JP hours when theirs 2300-2700 on the server

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    Connection and lag seems to be the same for me as it was in beta.
    Only thing changed is the arrows that are now locked to green regardless of actual connection - though it still goes red at r0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulkeeva View Post
    Don't really see a use for it, just get a better internet
    Sorry, but "get better Internet" is not the correct answer. I live in Silicon Valley CA and my current speed test shows me at 20Mbps down, 5Mbps up and I still have major lag spike issues with FFXI and FFXIV. The reason for this is the path my traffic takes to get to SE's servers just so happens to be across a bad peer network that for some reason slows down my flow of traffic to SE.

    Proxy'ing services like OP has mentioned force traffic from the game through their servers, and then on to the game server usually via a very nice datacenter connection. In a lot of cases this can cause a decrease in lag as well as a more stable connection; however, if the route to said proxy is bad as well it may be moot.

    I have my own server in a nearby datacenter (Linode.com) and I force my FFXI and FFXIV traffic through it. When doing so I no longer have lag spikes and in general the UI seems more responsive. I also briefly played Aion and seen the proxy decrease my lag on average by 150ms in addition to eliminating the spikes. To further drive this point home, I had an Australian friend who had 1500ms pings on Aion that decreased to 250ms upon proxying it via my server. No internet provider change happened, it was simply taking a different route to the game server.

    OP: I would say investigate it before buying a proxying service, especially one geared towards gaming. Proxying routes your traffic through a third party, and they could easily monitor what goes on. If you are technically able I would suggest taking your money and buying your own virtualized Linux box and set this up yourself instead of giving it to another company that may scam you. This can easily be done with any Linux VPS, Putty (to create the SSH tunnel to the server and act as a SOCKS proxy), and a program like Proxifier that forces programs like FFXIV to be proxied via that tunnel.

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    Sea Torques
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    I wish i can set up my own, thats why i was asking if someone have knowledge of a good router provider. I know that for aion I was using smoothping since begining and up until now I didn't get scammed, the problem is finding a company that provides for FFXIV that is legit D:

    the other part about the lag, I am glad it solves it. Makes me want to find routing service faster ><

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnie View Post
    the other part about the lag, I am glad it solves it. Makes me want to find routing service faster ><
    It might not solve it. Just make sure you have a good connection to that proxy service you find before you buy, otherwise it is pointless. It might be wise to find out the FFXIV server address and talk with your ISP. They might be able to identify if it is an issue on their end or someone between them and SE.

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    Mithra Ero-Sensei
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    hmm could be something else have you tried this stuff...?

    /copy paste

    1 - TcpAckFrequency - NOTE if you are running Windows Vista this setting may not have any effect - a hotfix is needed which i'm tracking down (can anyone point me the right way?). This works fine under Windows XP

    Type "regedit" in windows "run.." dialog to bring up registry menu

    Then find:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\

    There will be multiple NIC interfaces listed in there, find the one you use to connect to the internet, there will be several interfaces listed (they have long names like {7DBA6DCA-FFE8-4002-A28F-4D2B57AE8383}. Click each one, the right one will have lots of settings in it and you will see your machines IP address listed there somewhere. Right-click in the right hand pane and add a new DWORD value, name it TcpAckFrequency, then right click the entry and click Modify and assign a value of 1.

    you can change it back to 2 (default) at a later stage if it affects your other TCP application performance. it tells windows how many TCP packets to wait before sending ACK. if the value is 1, windows will send ACK every time it receives a TCP package.

    2 - TCPNoDelay
    This one is pretty simple

    info here: Microsoft Corporation

    Type "regedit" in windows "run.." dialog to bring up registry menu

    Then find:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Paramet ers

    Right-click in the right hand pane and add a new DWORD value, name it TCPNoDelay, then right click the entry and click Modify and assign a value of 1.

    [EDIT] Some people it seems don't have a MSMQ entry in their registry. You will need to add it, to do this the simplest way is to copy/paste the below code into a empty text file, and save it as a .reg file (just call it msmq.reg). Once done right click the file and select MERGE and click yes to the box that follows.

    ******snip below******

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ]

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Paramet ers]
    "TCPNoDelay"=dword:00000001

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Paramet ers\OCMsetup]

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Paramet ers\Security]
    "SecureDSCommunication"=dword:00000000

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Paramet ers\setup]

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Setup]


    basically same thing i used on wow, which works on ffxiv.
    usually had latency to 120-150 on wow, got down to 20-40 after changes mentioned above