Random Question Thread XV: This Is Not The Sticky You're Looking For

[Mercilessturtle]

i see cool lol so for us would be best rdm+rdm+blm and war+war+xx? for trioing?

While war will do more damage when they can /sam and hasso tank, you do need shadows for some stuff and monk loses far less from having to /nin, and is much easier to keep alive. Even when not /nin, mnk/war counterstance tanking isn't that far behind war/sam for damage output, and takes a ton less damage. I would do mnk+brd+whm for one combo, and rdmx3 for the other.

[Francisco]

Some questions about triggering !! in Abyssea...

- Will a red !! help with obtaining key items used to pop other NMs and Abyssites, or does it just apply to Atma?

- If a NM absorbs a certain element, can that spell trigger a !! if it actually heals the NM?

- Can you trigger and benefit from using 2 or 3 of the !! - or do they overwrite each other?

- Is there only one grellow spell per mob per pop, or could it be multiple spells from the list?

[Plow]

If I were doing 3 toons with only 2 jobs, let's see...

Probably something like this:

A. BRD + RDM
B. MNK + BLM
C. WHM + RDM

That would give you solid setups of mnk/brd/whm, mnk/brd/rdm, and of course rdm/rdm/blm. You could also probably get occasional use out of mnk/rdm/whm on stuff where raw healing is more important than elegy. The only issue really is that if you pick a good race for mnk, you're going to have a shitty race for blm. With cruor buffs and refresh atmas though, a galka blm is really not that much weaker than a taru at all. Don't get me started on Galka mnk hp at this point though...

[Heslon]

thx for all the answers yet can anyone explain me why rdmx3 is so good

[Aurara]

Some questions about triggering !! in Abyssea...

- Will a red !! help with obtaining key items used to pop other NMs and Abyssites, or does it just apply to Atma?

- If a NM absorbs a certain element, can that spell trigger a !! if it actually heals the NM?

- Can you trigger and benefit from using 2 or 3 of the !! - or do they overwrite each other?

- Is there only one grellow spell per mob per pop, or could it be multiple spells from the list?

1)Yes it applied to key items as well
2)yes, even if it absorbs the element it can trigger atma
3)you can trigger all 3 on 1 NM they dont overwrite eachother
4)Only 1 grellow spell per mobs

and rdmx3 is so good because it's indestructible.

[Francisco]

thx for all the answers yet can anyone explain me why rdmx3 is so good

I'm no mage, but I'd say it beats out BLM because they can sub NIN and keep Convert and Refresh... also Dispel, Stoneskin, Silence, Gravity and Paralyze may come in handy... BLM loses all that if they go /NIN.

[shepardG]

Before I search, I was gonna ask:

How many repeats of "Threadbare Tribulations" (3x amobean psudopods((sp) are required to advance to fame 2? don't really need anything from that quest but i'm trying to get to fame 2 asap.

currently fame nothing i believe.

[Heslon]

how many people@85 are needed to kill kirin for w.legs or are there any other movespeed+ items out now?

[Francisco]

Before I search, I was gonna ask:

How many repeats of "Threadbare Tribulations" (3x amobean psudopods((sp) are required to advance to fame 2? don't really need anything from that quest but i'm trying to get to fame 2 asap.

currently fame nothing i believe.

Best way to rank 2 fame:

Complete the Cura II quest.
Complete Wayward Wares (might need to do it twice)
Complete the Resistance OP "Crimson Carpet II" twice.

That will take you to rank 2 without having to buy overprice crap from the AH.

[shepardG]

OH GOD I LOVE YOU
(my dumb ass only bought 3 pods before I f5'd this page)

Seriously thank you.

[Francisco]

how many people@85 are needed to kill kirin for w.legs or are there any other movespeed+ items out now?

You can get movement speed +8% legs if you do ASA missions.

I'm not sure, but Kirin could probably be zerged down with like MNK, MNK, WHM, WHM, BRD, BRD or something.

[Cymmina]

I thought I read somewhere that the formula for Phalanx I/II changed once you get over 300 skill, but I couldn't find anything after a quick search (mostly just a bunch of references to the cap at 300, but nothing since that cap has been lifted). Wiki/BG wiki both list the original formula, so has it changed or not? If so, what is the new formula?

[Aurara]

mnkx3 brdx2 cor dnc drg smn can do it alot safer

[Raen Ryong]

how many people@85 are needed to kill kirin for w.legs or are there any other movespeed+ items out now?

Actual killers needed? RDM RDM RDM SCH is enough. Could make do without the SCH if you want a longggg fight.

[Heslon]

Actual killers needed? RDM RDM RDM SCH is enough. Could make do without the SCH if you want a longggg fight.

could you maybe explain how to kill it with 3 rdm? wouldnt the pets be a problem?

[Francisco]

could you maybe explain how to kill it with 3 rdm? wouldnt the pets be a problem?

One RDM kites Kirin, 2 RDM Nuke the pets down probably.

[Buffy]

Can someone give me a quick run-down on what a summoner does in a smn burn pt. I can use my friends mule (12 smn) to maybe get an invite, and try to smn burn nin up from 30.

I however, have never played smn in a smn burn and I'm not sure what to do. Don't wanna screw it up. Quick protips like when do I summon, when do I two hour, where do I summon, what avatar do I use....thanks!

Ignore this post, I just key whored to 50 in like 4 hours.

Follow up question: What is a fairly simple rdm/nin solo or blm/nin solo that I can use to get used to my new /nin sub?

[fredjanx]

Follow up question: What is a fairly simple rdm/nin solo or blm/nin solo that I can use to get used to my new /nin sub?

Tier 1 VNMs in normal zones. Unsleepable, no gravity, but slowable.

[Plow]

thx for all the answers yet can anyone explain me why rdmx3 is so good

Because rdm/nin can just bounce hate around, they all have heals, they all have debuffs, they all have infinite mana, etc.

The reason I'd lean towards rdm/rdm/blm is that 2 rdm can maintain on just about anything, the 3rd is just kind of "extra", and a blm can speed things up and trigger more !!'s in abyssea.


Especially if you're going to pin stuff, blm dmg is nuts these days. Almost any abyssea mob you will have at least 2 reasonably efficient spells that can knock off well over 5% per cast.

[rog]

This is more just a PSA than anything else, but with Cruor buffs and all the Furtherances, monsters have a floored critical hit rate on me in Abyssea (+40 AGI or whatever) 4 levels of Enemy Critical hit rate -% merits pushes it down below 2%. Warrior's Stone makes me immune to critical hits (Enemy critical hit rate -2%). Just something to note for PDT sets.

That's interesting. Guess i should drop my spell interrupt merits then, since they're useless now.