View Full Version : Tera: Random Complaint Thread. +12, but now what do I do with all this fodder?
Katlan
04-21-2012, 01:08 AM
Chat bug is really annoying. Anytime I use quotes it's like the auto-spam filters it :(
Rulke
04-21-2012, 01:17 AM
WHAT IS THIS CRAP!? TERA IS PERFECT! THIS THREAD IS GETTING LOCKED! GRAAAAAH!!
WhiteChocobo
04-21-2012, 01:28 AM
I agree!
http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af241/tisikitten/cancelall.jpg
The flashing white lights on the end of sticks and rocks hurt my eyes ;~;
The fucking +6 to whatever people are doing.
Unless there is a toggle for it, I just can't find........
Maaglin
04-21-2012, 02:31 AM
Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but it seems really hard to pick drops and gold up. I seem to have to rotate the camera and click the item 3 or 4 times.
Fayttt
04-21-2012, 03:14 AM
Watching everybody and their mother +6 shit, while I'm sitting here failing ~40 times on one item at +5. Feels bad.
What the fuck. I must be doing something wrong.
Pikarya
04-21-2012, 07:09 AM
No eye color selection, seriously? What is this 2004.
Coren
04-21-2012, 08:02 AM
Watching everybody and their mother +6 shit, while I'm sitting here failing ~40 times on one item at +5. Feels bad.
What the fuck. I must be doing something wrong.
This. 0/15 now going from +4 to +5. I'd rather they just make the alkahests 100% and charge 5 gold for them. Then at least I know how much money I need to collect to enchant my shit. None of this RNG bullshit.
And yes, I know, "just be glad it can't go backward".
I'm using about 50/50 whites and greens. Are blues substantially better rates? I really hate wasting what feels like a ton of money at this point on bullshit lvl 27 weapons that are going to be obsolete the first time I walk into CR in a couple levels.
Avarice
04-21-2012, 08:13 AM
No eye color selection, seriously? What is this 2004.
Seriously fucking this.
Wenrick
04-21-2012, 08:21 AM
No eye color selection, seriously? What is this 2004.
Unfortunately, eye color is tied to adornments, makeup, and accessories. Its not often I get to see the color of other character's eyes, let alone my own eye color.
Rakisho
04-21-2012, 08:24 AM
This. 0/15 now going from +4 to +5. I'd rather they just make the alkahests 100% and charge 5 gold for them. Then at least I know how much money I need to collect to enchant my shit. None of this RNG bullshit.
And yes, I know, "just be glad it can't go backward".
I'm using about 50/50 whites and greens. Are blues substantially better rates? I really hate wasting what feels like a ton of money at this point on bullshit lvl 27 weapons that are going to be obsolete the first time I walk into CR in a couple levels.
Honestly, I'd rather have the old system. I guess I just like the RNG in some ways, having played Ragnarok Online for 5 years (with breaks obviously) where shit would actually BREAK (get destroyed, item doesn't excist anymore) at a high % after going +4.
Coren
04-21-2012, 08:32 AM
I don't exactly want "carebear" or whatever they call it. Make it cost a shitton. I get annoyed seeing lucky bastards popping up +6 gear with only 3 breaks, while I empty the AH for weapons to burn and break them all.
Rakisho
04-21-2012, 08:34 AM
I don't exactly want "carebear" or whatever they call it. Make it cost a shitton. I get annoyed seeing lucky bastards popping up +6 gear with only 3 breaks, while I empty the AH for weapons to burn and break them all.
Not sure how they could make the enchanting system good. Now it's still a big part RNG, where the lucky people will spend a ton of money less. On the other hand, if they made a set cost, it would just mean the people that RMT would have amazing gear quick. Maybe they should have some crap where you need regents from hardmode bosses to enchant stuff, not that they are supposed to be super hard (from what I've heard)...
(Personally I don't have too much of a problem with the system, but I can see why others have).
Coren
04-21-2012, 08:48 AM
RMT are going to have amazing gear quick anyway, they'll just spend a little less or more of their bought gold.
Maybe they should make it so that current-tear alkahests are still RNG, but if you want to spend money on the next lvl (so the +7 to +9) alks, it's 100%, but costs like 5x as much. Then, when you get to +7, you can use the +7 to +9 ones for RNG, or the +10 to +12 ones for 100%. I hate feeling like such a little bitch on the second day. Ugh.
Katlan
04-21-2012, 09:18 AM
Gotta love the achievements that come w/awesome titles, but promote terrible play.
"join 10 guilds" and the "be GM 10x" (which is make 10 guilds). A few of my buddies and I dropped our current guild for like 20 minutes as we each made 10 guilds each to get "Born Leader" and "fickle" titles lol
Senji
04-21-2012, 09:31 AM
The fucking +6 to whatever people are doing.
Unless there is a toggle for it, I just can't find........
There's a toggle in the UI, but out appears to be broken. I get friends and guild mates, but worldwide needs to go.
Meresgi
04-21-2012, 09:57 AM
Yeah the chat thing is annoying as shit, only work around I have found is that anytime I go to a new area or change channels I have to type in guild chat or it won't register anything going on there.
White sparkles are annoying as hell too. I have to wonder what happened between CBT and OBT that the textures just went KABOOM on certain things.
I dont get why people are +6ing their lvl 27-29 gear. I know the cap is 32..but there are quests that give better gear from what I remember at the harbor at lvl 33ish. Maybe they arnt as good as a +6 but when I was in CBT I had my gold armor to +5, when to the harbor and got a blue armor reward that was just slightly better.
Elcura
04-21-2012, 01:13 PM
White sparkles are annoying as hell too. I have to wonder what happened between CBT and OBT that the textures just went KABOOM on certain things.
Been getting these too. At first I thought I was having a seizure...
Maaglin
04-21-2012, 04:36 PM
I don't get why people are +6'ing their gear either. I mean, you level so fast it seems a waste of time and money to seriously enchant anything at this point.
Mistral
04-21-2012, 10:24 PM
I wanna say people are just bored and want to make post-32 leveling easier. Sitting at 32, and there aren't any rewards for pvp. Kinda thinking of farming the instance for golds myself.
Meresgi
04-21-2012, 10:26 PM
Saying "look like" in say chat turns on the violation censor for those words lol...wtf.
Noobta
04-21-2012, 10:58 PM
Saying "look like" in say chat turns on the violation censor for those words lol...wtf.
Yea, the censor system is pretty derp. I linked a friend some gear and the name was filtered lol
ChairmanMeow
04-21-2012, 11:03 PM
There are a million options for customizing the face of your character but only one body type. I don't want megatits.
Silenka
04-22-2012, 12:55 AM
well I was never gonna buy it anyway cause I don't have the time/money but coming from someone who has only played ffxi and asheron's call way back in the day:
I love the graphics & colors, the races and the battle system.
Buuuut....I hate the way leveling is set up, and that is really a gamebreaker to me. Obviously it's fine to most people, as I understand it WoW is the same way, where you spend your entire game time until endgame constantly fetching and killing a set number of things for this or that NPC that you don't give two shits about. Just to compare to FFXI, XI was so story-based, it made you care about the place you were in and the characters. With Tera I don't get that at all. There is a certain amount of freedom to that, as it's less ponderous and you don't have to be as tied down to one character/server but really, it just feels empty to me.
I'm sure those for who like PvP and once you reach endgame it gets tons better, I would love to play in endgame parties in Tera. I can imagine it being awesome. I'm just a little disappointed how many games are based off nothing but fetch quests now.
Also it irks me so much that game difficulty is often dumbed down for US release when coming from a country like Korea or Japan. I thought someone mentioned that a lot of Tera's shit was made easier for US. Even as a first-time player who sucks at keyboard, Tera feels easy. Needs moar difficulty.
Gulkeeva
04-22-2012, 01:25 AM
why does alot castanic plate gear have a cloak covering all the back usually, how am I supposed to enjoy dat ass?! O_o
Greatguardian
04-22-2012, 01:34 AM
The combat difficulty was only really nerfed for story mission BAMs, as far as I know, since they removed Kais Bindings (an item you could grind to collect which would severely weaken story mission NMs when thrown at them). The main change coming over from vanilla k-tera is the exp curve, which was made significantly less grindy, and the enchanting system which was made much friendlier (you can't suddenly drop your +9 weapon down to +0 when the RNG screws you).
I agree that I don't really care much about the random npcs I turn fetch quests into, though. To be honest, quest text is small and my vision is bad enough without trying to read that nano-speak. I still don't know what the story is about or why poporia is filled with zombies and pora elinu's witches are all brainwashed. I absolutely abhored FFXI's stupid whack-a-colibri system for exp, but completely tying the storyline into the exp system means that you can't really stop and enjoy the story without falling dramatically behind exp-wise. I want to level up quickly, but I want to take the story at my own pace - and unfortunately I just don't have the option for both in TERA.
As far as straight difficulty goes, I'm generally okay with it. The game allows you to set up whatever challenges you feel comfortable with. Fodder mobs are always going to be weak, but solo'ing BAMs is a lot of fun. Early dungeons haven't been difficult at all (We did Bastion at level 20 with absolutely no healer or lancer, just 5 DDs blasting shit), but I've heard that the higher level dungeons have hard modes and such so I'm looking forward to that. I'm just annoyed by the fact that all dungeon fodder mobs have the elite classification, so they have a bajillion more HP than normal. I'd prefer to fight regular fodder with a few more mini-bosses thrown in than the swarms of Fodder-With-50,000-HP you see in Manor. It's not like they can actually kill you, they just chew up time.
Biggest complaint right now is the cacophony of blatant glitches that suddenly pop up now in OBT when we had no trouble in any of the 5 CBTs. Artifacting, chat log wipes, insane filters blocking any messages that include quotations, it's just ridiculous.
The chat system in general seems like a complete afterthought, and to be perfectly honest I think that's entirely understandable. You can't type while playing TERA. You just can't. But because of that, it's positively baffling that the game lacks native voice support. TERA's native communication options fall behind even FFXI's, a 10 year old game. If we didn't have a BG vent, it would be pretty much impossible to communicate effectively while playing the game.
Biggest general peev? Probably the fact that there isn't much purely recreational content. Everyone's going to have downtime. A lot of people during the beta have chosen to cap gathering and crafting skills during theirs, but I'm never really much of a crafter in any MMO I play. I don't want to spend 100% of my online time on battle content (maybe 99%), so I find myself without much reason to be online when I have downtime. It doesn't help here that the chat system is underdeveloped. FFXI can be run on an iphone so it didn't matter, but I don't see a reason to put my GPU under load just to idle in Velika. This is the time I would have used in FFXI to work on nation missions or large questlines. But since those missions and questlines are all tied into the EXP system in TERA, I've already blitzed through them all and can't re-do them.
niwaar
04-23-2012, 03:42 AM
No eye color selection, seriously? What is this 2004.
this was a complaint that people had with GW2's first several beta's. We saw how fast they changed that. lol Bluehole isn't going to change shit at this point. Thank god we have "makeup" in Tera. Something that ANet STILL refuses to add to GW2's character creator. ie ... take what you can get.
why does alot castanic plate gear have a cloak covering all the back usually, how am I supposed to enjoy dat ass?! O_o
Its not just Castanic. I could have sworn that in KTera there was none of these "quilts" covering plate wearers' asses over there. I am a human lancer and I have that same ass covering blanket. I am hoping there will be some Asian Tera .dat swaps for these as well. I know there are some Elin dat swaps and some Castanic/HElf nipple bearing armor dat swaps out there. Anyone know of one for human plate? (Or the rest for that matter.)
... but completely tying the storyline into the exp system means that you can't really stop and enjoy the story without falling dramatically behind exp-wise. I want to level up quickly, but I want to take the story at my own pace - and unfortunately I just don't have the option for both in TERA.
Biggest general peev? Probably the fact that there isn't much purely recreational content. Everyone's going to have downtime. A lot of people during the beta have chosen to cap gathering and crafting skills during theirs, but I'm never really much of a crafter in any MMO I play. I don't want to spend 100% of my online time on battle content (maybe 99%), so I find myself without much reason to be online when I have downtime. It doesn't help here that the chat system is underdeveloped. FFXI can be run on an iphone so it didn't matter, but I don't see a reason to put my GPU under load just to idle in Velika. This is the time I would have used in FFXI to work on nation missions or large questlines. But since those missions and questlines are all tied into the EXP system in TERA, I've already blitzed through them all and can't re-do them.
(I merged a couple of paragraphs because to me they are basically the same gripe worded differently.)
I really wish that MMO Developers would understand that story/missions are in fact important and they are a real forms of end game content. It would have been a really nice method to give more content to the game where the end game will currently be relegated to "difficult" 5 man dungeons, reputation farming and "rift"like "horde mode randomly generated unorganized raids.
The beauty that was FFXI was there was a large variety of options to take up any given day after you hit 75. No other MMO since XI has understood that we do not just want to go do that "raid" every week. I will be honest. I look at Tera as a game that has a great potential. How much shelf life that it actually has will be determined not with what it launches with, but what it gives us in June.
As far as straight difficulty goes, I'm generally okay with it. The game allows you to set up whatever challenges you feel comfortable with. Fodder mobs are always going to be weak, but solo'ing BAMs is a lot of fun. Early dungeons haven't been difficult at all (We did Bastion at level 20 with absolutely no healer or lancer, just 5 DDs blasting shit).
The simple fact that there are multiple types of content for multiple types of players is the best thing I have seen in an MMO in recent history. There never again will be another FFXI. The "you must group to level efficiently" days are far behind us in the MMO genre. However, there are still those of us who would rather kill more difficult things in groups for a larger "payday" than to go quest solo.
As for difficulty... meh it feels like its faceroll now, but I have watched enough twitch.tv (http://twitch.tv) to understand that its not always going to be that way. (Although I did watch a stream last night where the lancer was a moron and died, then the mystic died and they managed to basically 3 man the final boss in SM with little real difficulty.) I have enjoyed the game quite a bit. Duoing the Bams out in celestial hills with my priest partner getting 32-35k a kill just cause we can do it.
Biggest complaint right now is the cacophony of blatant glitches that suddenly pop up now in OBT when we had no trouble in any of the 5 CBTs. Artifacting, chat log wipes, insane filters blocking any messages that include quotations, it's just ridiculous.
The game really has a HUGE number of unacceptable glitches and bugs with the smaller parts of the game. Its not just about the glitches but its also about options that simply are not there. That being said, Tera is still a pretty decently polished game. One that in my mind is more polished than SWTOR and definitely better off than Warhammer. I'd compare it to AoC, but anyone who ever played that game at launch understands that there were better games put together in people's basements in the 70s on homemade computers.
The game has its issues, but its still a better option for our time than SWTOR EVER was. I just wish I could wear the high elf armor on my human. I like the whole "racial" armor thing, but it also bugs the hell out of me at the same time.
Avarice
04-23-2012, 07:21 AM
I really think the currency system changes (gold into copper/silver/gold) fucked with the economy. People place too much value on the new gold's worth, and we have undercutters undercutting the undercutters who were already undercutting someone else.
Gulkeeva
04-23-2012, 09:38 AM
Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but it seems really hard to pick drops and gold up. I seem to have to rotate the camera and click the item 3 or 4 times.
Haven't seen this, only problem i've had is , when I press F, I auto run into NPC/person/plant/wall and don't "run around" to get said item ;/
I wanna say people are just bored and want to make post-32 leveling easier. Sitting at 32, and there aren't any rewards for pvp. Kinda thinking of farming the instance for golds myself.
Been farming since day 2 basically after hitting lv 32. Didn't personally see much use for +6ing gear if its hard to do, and it all won't matter by next week O_o
I've already expanded my inventory to max space ( 30g + 80g + 100g to maxout)
and 200 alchemy (probably 100g-200g) and now 100g ish again, and plan to maxout weapons+armor i think.
I really think the currency system changes (gold into copper/silver/gold) fucked with the economy. People place too much value on the new gold's worth, and we have undercutters undercutting the undercutters who were already undercutting someone else.
yup... been doing that! since less and less buying as beta nears the end, trying to get rid of the stuff before it becomes worthless next week!
I've started farming Lv 38 CR mobs for the gear there, the mobs surprisingly don't hit hard (archer shots are 50, berserker mob hits 200's, and their specials are 1000-2000). Only thing is you don't hit them hard (highest crit of like 4K, where on a Lv32 mob it would be around 20,000-26,000)
Wenrick
04-23-2012, 11:35 AM
I really think the currency system changes (gold into copper/silver/gold) fucked with the economy. People place too much value on the new gold's worth, and we have undercutters undercutting the undercutters who were already undercutting someone else.
I'm no fan of the gold/silver/copper system by any mreans. I seriously want to go back to ONE currency, which makes more sense to me. However, economies have a way of balancing themselves out. If the price of a certain item on the market goes down its because supply went up, demand went down, or both.
Rakisho
04-23-2012, 12:01 PM
As for difficulty... meh it feels like its faceroll now, but I have watched enough twitch.tv (http://twitch.tv) to understand that its not always going to be that way. (Although I did watch a stream last night where the lancer was a moron and died, then the mystic died and they managed to basically 3 man the final boss in SM with little real difficulty.) I have enjoyed the game quite a bit. Duoing the Bams out in celestial hills with my priest partner getting 32-35k a kill just cause we can do it.
Is it just me who finds it pretty silly (this is not directed to the person I'm quoting or anyone special) whining about dificulty, at LEAST before level 50? Honestly, how many MMORPGs offer much of a challenge before close to max level? Shit I've seen people whine "man it was way too easy to level to 10", well what the fuck did you expect, like seriously, did you think you'd die 15 times before level 5?
As long as there is SOME challenge at 60 I'm fine, really.
(Ranting at ranters).
Greatguardian
04-23-2012, 01:29 PM
I really think the currency system changes (gold into copper/silver/gold) fucked with the economy. People place too much value on the new gold's worth, and we have undercutters undercutting the undercutters who were already undercutting someone else.
tbh it doesn't really bother me. I could care less about gold at this level. I only really use it to +6 my shit and loan it out to the people who, ironically, are leveling crafting in order to make big bucks.
I doubt this is going to be like ffxi where EXP and endgame content cost more money than they generated (generally none unless you merc drops/currency) and we needed 50-100 million gil to snag a -1 Earthen Abjuration: Body or whatever.
Trocian
04-23-2012, 02:26 PM
The reason they changed the currency was because Vanarchs in Korea hit the money-cap, 999 billion or something equally silly.
Kaisha
04-23-2012, 02:39 PM
So how long before money inflation is a problem for our server?
Katlan
04-23-2012, 02:46 PM
If chat filters aren't fixed by retail I'm gonna be really bitter. Gotta love how it filters stuff that isn't remotely bad, but it won't filter a single line of a RMT spammer
niwaar
04-23-2012, 04:55 PM
Its not about chat filters, its about the entire chat system. I came to understand that you were talking to friends last night in our party/guild and I NEVER saw your conversation. Meaning the chat system doesn't work correctly half the time.
Is it just me who finds it pretty silly (this is not directed to the person I'm quoting or anyone special) whining about dificulty, at LEAST before level 50? Honestly, how many MMORPGs offer much of a challenge before close to max level? Shit I've seen people whine "man it was way too easy to level to 10", well what the fuck did you expect, like seriously, did you think you'd die 15 times before level 5?
As long as there is SOME challenge at 60 I'm fine, real
Exactly, difficulty will scale as we level. Difficulty, will be higher at level 60. There ARE "heroic" dungeons.
Purrrfect
04-23-2012, 05:44 PM
Its not about chat filters, its about the entire chat system. I came to understand that you were talking to friends last night in our party/guild and I NEVER saw your conversation. Meaning the chat system doesn't work correctly half the time.
Exactly, difficulty will scale as we level. Difficulty, will be higher at level 60. There ARE "heroic" dungeons.
At some point last night my chat box reverted back to its contents from a couple hours prior and no longer updated...
CasualPlayer
04-23-2012, 05:53 PM
Is it just me who finds it pretty silly (this is not directed to the person I'm quoting or anyone special) whining about dificulty, at LEAST before level 50? Honestly, how many MMORPGs offer much of a challenge before close to max level? Shit I've seen people whine "man it was way too easy to level to 10", well what the fuck did you expect, like seriously, did you think you'd die 15 times before level 5?
As long as there is SOME challenge at 60 I'm fine, really.
(Ranting at ranters).
Lotta people here are from ffxi where you actually could die 15 times before level 10 lol.
Senji
04-23-2012, 06:32 PM
At some point last night my chat box reverted back to its contents from a couple hours prior and no longer updated...
Today mine decided to not register any of my outgoing chat, or pointer clicks...though it was the first day zoning and whatnot didn't break incoming.
Rulke
04-23-2012, 07:56 PM
Lotta people here are from ffxi where you actually could die 15 times before level 10 lol.
No joke. FFXI beta, lvl 1 rdm, Zeruhn Mines (or whatever connected with Mining Dist), EM bats, first time fighting anything. Death. ><;
Senji
04-23-2012, 09:11 PM
No joke. FFXI beta, lvl 1 rdm, Zeruhn Mines (or whatever connected with Mining Dist), EM bats, first time fighting anything. Death. ><;
"what do you mean you have to equip your weapon first?!"
Purrrfect
04-23-2012, 09:53 PM
Complaint: Servers down this week... Fuck. I feel like a cocaine addict or something right about now. >.>
Meresgi
04-23-2012, 11:02 PM
Blowing up 7 blue weapons trying to get a gold to +6 and not succeeding...feels good man.
Trocian
04-23-2012, 11:06 PM
Blowing up 7 blue weapons trying to get a gold to +6 and not succeeding...feels good man.
Does it make you feel any better knowing you'd probably be down to +2 if they hadn't made it "easymode"?
Meresgi
04-24-2012, 12:14 AM
Does it make you feel any better knowing you'd probably be down to +2 if they hadn't made it "easymode"?
No it doesn't, not at all!
I don't really care too much, not like this shit wont be replaced by lvl 35 blues. Shit some of the lvl 30 crafted blues are better in stats then the golds. Golds just have the extra socket and 2 extra bonuses.
Gulkeeva
04-24-2012, 01:19 AM
Would be financially better to have made gold this beta, and on head start use progress tokens blues, to enchant the Lv38 golds...! (progress tokens only go to Lv 37 gear).
Used all my gold for inventory expansions (over 210gold) and getting alchemy to 200 (about 100+ gold)
Rakisho
04-24-2012, 10:16 AM
Lotta people here are from ffxi where you actually could die 15 times before level 10 lol.
Yeah I know, that's why I said most. :P No but seriously, most of the deaths (all?) in early FFXI was due to attacking EM++ with half health, or just thinking you could kill that last enemy before you had to rest, not really hard, but people/I get impatient.
Shit, I had a friend who for the first day or two thought the only way to get healed was through cure or running to his mog house, game was hardcore for him yo!
Weltall
04-24-2012, 10:54 AM
Lotta people here are from ffxi where you actually could die 15 times before level 10 lol.
THIS THIS THIS oh God the memories...lol
Lucavi
04-24-2012, 12:25 PM
Lets see... I need a complaint. Oh, here's one!
Can we disable that goddamn text wheel that pops up if you're pushing too many buttons at once? Nothing is worse than overcharging my big mamma-jamma-slamma thunderstrike on a bosses back, and I move to the left and I've suddenly dropped my hotbars to the next page and have pulled up the goddamn battle text wheel. Then I have spend 3 seconds running around uselessly trying to figure out how in the hell to get my shit back to normal. Thank God I've never gotten anyone killed during this.
Greatguardian
04-24-2012, 12:28 PM
It's one of the many, many glitches that cropped up in OBT I think. Holding E brings up the battle text wheel, but for some reason hitting E while charging a skill seems to process as Alt+E as far as the game is concerned (which is the shortcut for swapping hotbars I believe). Lil and I have had the same problem all weekend.
Anakron
04-24-2012, 12:39 PM
More of a question than a complaint, but is there a way to map Alt out of the UI swap? It's defaulted to both Esc and Alt, but when I hit Esc to map a command, it'd show up as "Alt" in the mapping, almost like the game thinks the Esc and the Alt keys are the same. But then when I tested Esc+#, it won't trigger my Alt+# shortcuts, so the game obviously recognizes them as different keys, simply not when setting shortcut keys apparently.
I only use Esc to swap the UI, and it sometimes when I Alt+#, it'd swap the UI mid battle which is really annoying.
Gulkeeva
04-24-2012, 12:44 PM
Think the worst for me was the chat bug, I';d be logged in the game for around 20+ hours a day, and the chat REALLY got weird, to where changing tabs would make it go back like 15min in text.
It wasn't as bad in the 5-6 hour ranges when it first starts.
Greatguardian
04-24-2012, 12:55 PM
Oh yeah, that reminds me. The game would keep syncing my playtime with my party members, so I could be online for 6 and a half hours and suddenly get a "You have been playing for 2 hours" message. We had a couple points where the entire party would get the same playtime message simultaneously, despite us having staggered login times.
Has anyone else experienced what appears to be a memory leak? UI/game gradually becomes very clunky after about 3+ hours of consistent play for me. Not a huge deal since a simple client restart fixes it, but I'm wondering if it's a problem on my end.
Greatguardian
04-24-2012, 01:07 PM
I've seen a lot of people having that problem.
Lets see... I need a complaint. Oh, here's one!
Can we disable that goddamn text wheel that pops up if you're pushing too many buttons at once? Nothing is worse than overcharging my big mamma-jamma-slamma thunderstrike on a bosses back, and I move to the left and I've suddenly dropped my hotbars to the next page and have pulled up the goddamn battle text wheel. Then I have spend 3 seconds running around uselessly trying to figure out how in the hell to get my shit back to normal. Thank God I've never gotten anyone killed during this.
A million time's this, first time it happened, i couldn't move my character or click on anything until i hit e, which seemed to stop it, but it happened all the time, and always midcharge
Purrrfect
04-24-2012, 01:48 PM
More of a question than a complaint, but is there a way to map Alt out of the UI swap? It's defaulted to both Esc and Alt, but when I hit Esc to map a command, it'd show up as "Alt" in the mapping, almost like the game thinks the Esc and the Alt keys are the same. But then when I tested Esc+#, it won't trigger my Alt+# shortcuts, so the game obviously recognizes them as different keys, simply not when setting shortcut keys apparently.
I only use Esc to swap the UI, and it sometimes when I Alt+#, it'd swap the UI mid battle which is really annoying.
If you go to the key mapping and near the bottom there is an entry for something like UI mode, and the default keybinds on it are mouse5 and alt. Click in each box and hit backspace or delete (I forget which) to clear them and then esc will be the only ui key.
mallister
04-24-2012, 01:49 PM
yeah i was getting a lot of crashes, shit was annoying. of course it happens at fun times like during boss fights in SM, etc
Indalecia
04-24-2012, 01:52 PM
No it doesn't, not at all!
I don't really care too much, not like this shit wont be replaced by lvl 35 blues. Shit some of the lvl 30 crafted blues are better in stats then the golds. Golds just have the extra socket and 2 extra bonuses.
I crafted 3 level 30 blues and all sold fairly quickly. Base stats are better than gold.
Woulda crafted some 35 or 40's but finding Sulpha runes was fucking annoying.
getting alchemy to 200 (about 100+ gold)
Whaaaaaaaaaaat?! I did 150-200 on crit scrolls, cost like 20 gold tops.
Artemicon
04-24-2012, 01:53 PM
I got all the chat errors and white artifacting everyones talking about but I didn't have a single crash.
Eddard
04-24-2012, 02:14 PM
Think the worst for me was the chat bug, I';d be logged in the game for around 20+ hours a day, and the chat REALLY got weird, to where changing tabs would make it go back like 15min in text.
It wasn't as bad in the 5-6 hour ranges when it first starts.
OMG This..... I hated playing for a good 6hrs then zone and bam... I see chat from when I logged in.... annoyed the hell out of me... Or when the window just goes blank and you have to click on the tab your currently in a dozen times to get it to restore...
Also, first person view was broken for me. Whenever I'd go into FP mode it'd act like it was a world view camera and not my character... you know... like when you play a FPS game and you die and can see the whole map... kinda like that. lol
Greatguardian
04-24-2012, 02:23 PM
I got all the chat errors and white artifacting everyones talking about but I didn't have a single crash.
mmm, yummy artifacts
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Artemicon
04-24-2012, 02:26 PM
God I hated those I seriously contemplated deleting my install and then reinstalling and patching when I slept but then I found out it was widespread and honestly it only happened in open world environments after I had been logged in for awhile.
Kachiko
04-24-2012, 02:32 PM
Gather f'ing all option where?
Coren
04-24-2012, 03:09 PM
I'd like to be able to throw trash away and automatically pass on it the next time it autodistributes to me. At some point it's just not worth picking up charms, bombs, etc.
Avarice
04-24-2012, 03:46 PM
Charms are never not worth picking up, even the low-tier ones; small buffs at a campfire are better than no buffs.
Eddard
04-24-2012, 03:50 PM
Better yet, send your unused/unwanted charms to me! I'll take them :)
Kaisha
04-24-2012, 04:00 PM
Has anyone else experienced what appears to be a memory leak? UI/game gradually becomes very clunky after about 3+ hours of consistent play for me. Not a huge deal since a simple client restart fixes it, but I'm wondering if it's a problem on my end.
I have it the opposite. Game runs like ass for the first couple hours (chugs/locks-up for seconds at a time when entering new locations or turning a corner in Velika, or locking up on something generic at random like my mount), and after awhile the graphics turn to shit (low-quality textures everywhere) but starts to run more stable at that point.
Shits annoying though as it was not an issue at all during CBT besides 3-4 second hiccups on those.
Gulkeeva
04-24-2012, 09:25 PM
I have it the opposite. Game runs like ass for the first couple hours (chugs/locks-up for seconds at a time when entering new locations or turning a corner in Velika, or locking up on something generic at random like my mount), and after awhile the graphics turn to shit (low-quality textures everywhere) but starts to run more stable at that point.
Shits annoying though as it was not an issue at all during CBT besides 3-4 second hiccups on those.
Only buggyness I've noticed with the ui is mention above about the chat (and the clicking to make it showup). I've ran the game/played/zoned everywhere mass zerg pvp etc etc etc in the 20 hour ish time frame running the video card like a jet engine, and no other errors.
16GB ram though on this pc so O_o
oh I did cause myself 1 error.. I'd randomly tap the e key (brings up the macro window) and if ya tapped it super fast , it for whatever reason "locks" your ui, and unable to click anything on the ui/turn etc. Only way figured to fix it was press E again (didn't know to since I pressed it so fast the "macro text" stuff didn't even display when I did it.
Maaglin
04-24-2012, 09:57 PM
I dislike using F as the action key, so I re-mapped it to E. Never have the UI lock problem you guys are experiencing.
Dngnhack
04-24-2012, 11:42 PM
It happened to me a couple times and would fix when i got myself knocked down or something... good to know how to fix it.
Gulkeeva
04-25-2012, 12:12 AM
It happened to me a couple times and would fix when i got myself knocked down or something... good to know how to fix it.
Well the above with a different lockout from the "stuck in a combat pose" ui lockout. For the "I have my weapon out and unable to do anything" you had to use an item (like a charm, or toss a fire, teleport, knocked down etc) to get out of the animation lock.
Katlan
04-26-2012, 10:37 PM
yay, all they are doing is giving our more free codes for ppl to take up even more names that will never be used once their free time is up. and i thought OB was bad enough. at least don't fuckin let these free code ppl take up useless names right when the real pre-ordered ppl can
Uryuu
04-27-2012, 12:49 AM
yay, all they are doing is giving our more free codes for ppl to take up even more names that will never be used once their free time is up. and i thought OB was bad enough. at least don't fuckin let these free code ppl take up useless names right when the real pre-ordered ppl can
Surprised you didn't just delete the thread with that attitude.
Trocian
04-27-2012, 09:52 AM
So they changed a bunch of voices, but not the subtitles that went along with them? Samael's intro speech is totally different from the subs that play.
Senji
04-27-2012, 10:11 AM
Go Frogster!
Doompie
04-28-2012, 08:47 AM
Yeah noticed that too. Wonder if its just Frogster.
Zetanio
04-28-2012, 10:09 AM
Random complaint. I can't log in.
Laude
04-28-2012, 10:10 AM
Ditto, lol. *bitch and moan*
Meresgi
04-28-2012, 10:11 AM
502 bad gateway? Login server cant handle everyone logging in at once? FUCK THIS GAME PREORDER CANCELLED
First thing I did when servers went up, be an asshole and go to every single server and claim my name. Complaint: Skai was taken in 4 out of 10 servers. #firstworldproblems
Senji
04-28-2012, 10:35 AM
First thing I did when servers went up, be an asshole and go to every single server and claim my name. Complaint: Skai was taken in 4 out of 10 servers. #firstworldproblems
You didn't do this for OBT?
Zetanio
04-28-2012, 10:47 AM
Someone on Jagged Coast needs to invite me pronto.
Katlan
04-28-2012, 11:19 AM
fuck them at letting servers up early. I don't keep an eye on the forums or announcements and stuff, and at 9am was like "oh wow... servers are up" as i went to update the client
Amiricle
04-28-2012, 11:56 AM
fuck them at letting servers up early. I don't keep an eye on the forums or announcements and stuff, and at 9am was like "oh wow... servers are up" as i went to update the client
Jerks, opening servers early when I'm stuck at work.
Uryuu
04-28-2012, 01:17 PM
First thing I did when servers went up, be an asshole and go to every single server and claim my name. Complaint: Skai was taken in 4 out of 10 servers. #firstworldproblems
You didn't do this for OBT?
Maybe this will make it easier.
Tyrath
04-28-2012, 01:30 PM
Fuck, I got in earlier to patch. Didn't know servers were up. Now I can't log in Q_Q
OBT lets you make more than one character? Shit I didn't realize. Random fail on me.
Tyrath
04-28-2012, 01:35 PM
OBT lets you make more than one character? Shit I didn't realize. Random fail on me.
1 per server lol.
Lucavi
04-28-2012, 01:46 PM
Keep getting nothing but bad gateways when I try to log onto my account.
First world problems.
Could've swear it was only one account wide. Oh well, woe is me.
Tyrath
04-28-2012, 02:00 PM
Just got in.
Uryuu
04-28-2012, 02:24 PM
OBT lets you make more than one character? Shit I didn't realize. Random fail on me.
Was only one. Was more so pointing out to that other guy why you weren't able to do so.
Oh word. Guess it wasn't me then.
God damn que timesssssssssssssssssss
65 minute wait for jagged coast right now. lmao
Eddard
04-28-2012, 04:27 PM
50min queue time for me... after I was only in game for 20min which I had a 45min queue time then.... fucking fantastic.
Edit: What the fuck... I just went from 843 to 865 in line... Who is cutting in front of me!?
Edit #2: Why does my UI keep resetting after I d/c!?............................................... .........
Senji
04-28-2012, 04:34 PM
Was only one. Was more so pointing out to that other guy why you weren't able to do so.
1 char per server; ie claim your name on all servers if you so inclined, as Skai was.
I preorderd my game a few days ago with no problems, I go to log in today and get "Trail insufficient privileges", so I go to check whats wrong and for some reason En Masse refunded me the preorder money.. making me have to reorder the game. When I try to preorder it again, I just get "Payment Authorization failed" through no matter which method I use (straight credit/paypal).. So I just use the buddy codes I got from MY OWN preorder and get in... Anyone else having retarded problems? Also epic queues.
1341 wait in line........... ~_~ jesus eff...
Rulke
04-28-2012, 07:49 PM
I preorderd my game a few days ago with no problems, I go to log in today and get "Trail insufficient privileges", so I go to check whats wrong and for some reason En Masse refunded me the preorder money.. making me have to reorder the game. When I try to preorder it again, I just get "Payment Authorization failed" through no matter which method I use (straight credit/paypal).. So I just use the buddy codes I got from MY OWN preorder and get in... Anyone else having retarded problems? Also epic queues.
Did you pre order from their site? There have been some odd happenings with this with people (myself and my friends included)
Avarice
04-28-2012, 07:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/75ZAu.png
Rulke
04-28-2012, 07:55 PM
http://i.imgur.com/75ZAu.png
http://homestarrunnerholdmusic.ytmnd.com/
Senji
04-28-2012, 08:13 PM
http://i.imgur.com/75ZAu.png
Will see how many people didn't pay up on May 1st, but d/cs are suckin.
Katlan
04-28-2012, 08:17 PM
I don't think ppl are as pissy about having to wait in a que to first get into the game, as they are too getting DC'd and then logging back in w/in minutes to NOW have to sit in a que. Imagine waiting in a que to then "shit happens" and getting DC'd shortly after getting into the game lol
Kaisha
04-28-2012, 08:21 PM
Just VoT & Jagged having queues according to EME's website.
At any rate, thank god for Netflix.
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/2058f0d3503e4500f52e9fdfbf1e8d47.jpg
Jojimbo
04-28-2012, 10:20 PM
Is anyone getting crashes? I was able to play for hours at first but then I had a crash where my entire PC froze, they became more frequent until now where I can only seem to play for a minute before my PC locks up (no BSOD/error, it just locks up and I have to reset).
I've ruled out unstable CPU/GPU clocks (however the problem seems to be limited to TERA and not any other games), the .ini mods I've made and I have tried repairing the install. Only thing I haven't tried is redownloading the entire game x.x
Did you pre order from their site? There have been some odd happenings with this with people (myself and my friends included)
Yeah I ordered from their site, and still can't buy it. Did you manage to solve your problem?
Dear terrible mystics from LFD, learn to drop HP and MP orbs. The group shouldn't have to remind you to use one of your core class abilities.
Rulke
04-28-2012, 11:30 PM
Yeah I ordered from their site, and still can't buy it. Did you manage to solve your problem?
Yar, the "smoothest" way was to order from Amazon. EME refunded your $$ correct?
Wenrick
04-29-2012, 12:12 AM
Dear terrible mystics from LFD, learn to drop HP and MP orbs. The group shouldn't have to remind you to use one of your core class abilities.
Was with a Mystic from Territ in Cultist Refuge and they didn't drop any skittles during battle, only before. Cheapskates.
Eddard
04-29-2012, 01:02 AM
Is anyone getting crashes? I was able to play for hours at first but then I had a crash where my entire PC froze, they became more frequent until now where I can only seem to play for a minute before my PC locks up (no BSOD/error, it just locks up and I have to reset).
I've ruled out unstable CPU/GPU clocks (however the problem seems to be limited to TERA and not any other games), the .ini mods I've made and I have tried repairing the install. Only thing I haven't tried is redownloading the entire game x.x
I've had my game freeze 2x today... I currently have no idea what is causing it but would also like any kind of assistance fixing the issue.
Zetanio
04-29-2012, 01:21 AM
I've had my game freeze 2x today... I currently have no idea what is causing it but would also like any kind of assistance fixing the issue.
I had a few issues. One was RAM related but the other was similar to you. I ended up lowering my graphics levels to around medium and it cleared up.
Fuck Frogster, it's the 4th the game kicks me while i'm inside SM and i have to wait 40 min of queue
Trocian
04-29-2012, 11:55 AM
That seems odd, I don't know of anyone on EU that's having continous D/Cs :/
Yar, the "smoothest" way was to order from Amazon. EME refunded your $$ correct?
Yeah they refunded it, haven't tried again since I'm at work but if it doesn't work again tonight I guess I'll get it from amazon. I would essentially be buying the game code from amazon and downloading from my Tera account correct?
Rulke
04-29-2012, 01:47 PM
Yeah they refunded it, haven't tried again since I'm at work but if it doesn't work again tonight I guess I'll get it from amazon. I would essentially be buying the game code from amazon and downloading from my Tera account correct?
Do you already have the game installed from any previous tests? You'd just need to use the updater from then on, no need to RE-download anything. You'd be getting the actual game from amazon, and will get a code to put into your Tera account but you can also DL the game from your amazon account. I am assuming its just the updater portion.
Yeah I already got it installed, thanks for the help will try it out tonight.
They appear to be getting more honest with their wait times.
Last night, I was 1600th in line for jagged coast with a estimate 75 minute wait.
Today, i'm 585th in line with a estimate 65 minute wait..... lol
Greatguardian
04-29-2012, 04:26 PM
TERA Launcher being required to play the game and only allowing one instance open at a time means I can't dualbox to avoid queues when changing accounts. QQ
Meresgi
04-29-2012, 05:39 PM
Why the fuck have they not fixed the issue with mobs constantly resetting on you and going back up to full HP over and over again if you dont kill them in 3 seconds? Also COULD WE FIX THE FUCKING CHAT SYSTEM ALREADY? jesus christ.
Experienced my first crash, launched into queue...feels bad man...
Misterjingles
04-29-2012, 09:31 PM
I will never finish BOL if the server keeps crapping out by the time I'm halfway through it! QQ
MaachaQ
04-29-2012, 10:06 PM
Finally had time to log in again, still only level 7... Crashed and now stuck in a queue >.>
Gonna suck needing to wait for the physical CE to arrive from the states too, so I'll be booted after retail starts until I get my code... I should have gone for digital CE, but I'm a sucker for packaging and nick-nacks >.>
Haruhi
04-29-2012, 10:23 PM
TERA Launcher being required to play the game and only allowing one instance open at a time means I can't dualbox to avoid queues when changing accounts. QQ
Try using sandboxie =)
Avarice
04-29-2012, 11:06 PM
Imagine waiting in a que to then "shit happens" and getting DC'd shortly after getting into the game lol
Been there, done that. Four. Fucking. Times.
There really, really needs to be a grace period for people that get kicked. Shit is retarded.
fattucus
04-29-2012, 11:19 PM
Will there be a "Grace Period" for shipping of the physical boxes before launch?
Yes, there will be a "Grace Period" for customers who have purchased a physical copy of TERA! The grace period will be 48 hours. So slay away fellow members of the Valkyon Federation!
for us suckers that love to touchy our physical copy
mallister
04-30-2012, 03:35 AM
biggest complaint: the 'i'm gonna declare guild war, then sit in a safe zone and cry that you brought your whole guild to fight, then snipe solo/lowbies and hide in town till we win' bullshit. they need to either make that capital city/velika only, or something. shit is retarded and wastes people's time.
Maaglin
04-30-2012, 04:20 AM
When you get interrupted using a scroll (teleport/raise) you not only lose the item (which I'm ok with), but it also resets your cooldown (I'm not ok with this). Been several times in a dungeon run where I'm trying to res someone, only to get some fringe aoe damage from the boss, then my res doesn't cast, and the cooldown is reset to 20 mins. Shouldn't be like that.
Mistral
04-30-2012, 08:16 AM
biggest complaint: the 'i'm gonna declare guild war, then sit in a safe zone and cry that you brought your whole guild to fight, then snipe solo/lowbies and hide in town till we win' bullshit. they need to either make that capital city/velika only, or something. shit is retarded and wastes people's time.
Unfortunately I don't think that will be changing anytime soon without BGs. I think GvG will just be a Trollfest until there's real PvP incentive added.
Takie
04-30-2012, 08:27 AM
Unfortunately I don't think that will be changing anytime soon without BGs. I think GvG will just be a Trollfest until there's real PvP incentive added.
I'm looking forward to Vanarch battlegrounds :) We'll need to take our 10 best geared / most skilled / most experienced to represent
Katlan
04-30-2012, 08:28 AM
they need to fix their fuckin LFG debuff system, its beyond terrible. Yesterday was queing w/ 2 other friends (so 3 of us in total), and each time we would get a group already in progress w/somebody dead at the time we accepted the que. Well I guess if the leader is dead then you can't enter the instance no matter what, even after they raise. And then the leader can't kick you since you can only kick people in the instance.
So your have to drop and get the 15 minute debuff for no fault on your own. After that happened 2x in a row i just stopped using the LFG system and made my own group.. there needs to be some limit on when you get that debuff because it is one of the most rage inducing thing i have experienced
WhiteChocobo
04-30-2012, 11:07 AM
Yesterday was queing w/ 2 other friends (so 3 of us in total), and each time we would get a group already in progress w/somebody dead at the time we accepted the que.
We que'd a few times, never had one already in progress, but other members of the party did APPEAR dead, not sure why. They weren't actually dead, they just weren't inside the instance yet.
Takie
04-30-2012, 11:45 AM
As a Lancer, if you are inside the monsters hit box, sometimes when you try to charge out, you still get stuck in collision, even if you're literally looking in 180 degrees from the monster. Stupid EME not letting me play Lancer like a Prot Warrior from Wow
Clave
04-30-2012, 12:30 PM
We que'd a few times, never had one already in progress, but other members of the party did APPEAR dead, not sure why. They weren't actually dead, they just weren't inside the instance yet.
^ As was already said, while using the instance matching system, often times when people aren't in the zone they will appear dead to you, but they actually aren't.
CasualPlayer
04-30-2012, 12:45 PM
When you get interrupted using a scroll (teleport/raise) you not only lose the item (which I'm ok with), but it also resets your cooldown (I'm not ok with this). Been several times in a dungeon run where I'm trying to res someone, only to get some fringe aoe damage from the boss, then my res doesn't cast, and the cooldown is reset to 20 mins. Shouldn't be like that.
This is a good one.
Katlan
04-30-2012, 12:50 PM
^ As was already said, while using the instance matching system, often times when people aren't in the zone they will appear dead to you, but they actually aren't.
still doesn't explain why we couldn't enter either time and thus being forced to drop and take the debuff since we couldn't be kicked
fattucus
04-30-2012, 02:39 PM
We que'd a few times, never had one already in progress, but other members of the party did APPEAR dead, not sure why. They weren't actually dead, they just weren't inside the instance yet.
there was that one time with that one warrior that would have been more helpful dead
WhiteChocobo
04-30-2012, 02:55 PM
there was that one time with that one warrior that would have been more helpful dead
http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af241/tisikitten/fattucus.gif
fattucus
04-30-2012, 02:59 PM
some crazy people pronounce "fattucus" as "moe"
my faith in humanity dwindles everyday.
Purrrfect
04-30-2012, 05:21 PM
As a Lancer, if you are inside the monsters hit box, sometimes when you try to charge out, you still get stuck in collision, even if you're literally looking in 180 degrees from the monster. Stupid EME not letting me play Lancer like a Prot Warrior from Wow
Not the same thing, but on one BoL run this weekend as archer the boss jumped at me and pinned me against a wall and since archer doesn't have roll through moves I could only stand there and accept the rape.
Rulke
04-30-2012, 09:17 PM
Not the same thing, but on one BoL run this weekend as archer the boss jumped at me and pinned me against a wall and since archer doesn't have roll through moves I could only stand there and accept the rape.
Should have been able to use Charging Lunge to get out, ya? I've done that on before when I've become pinned.
I don't think I'll ever get to play this damn game. Between the checksum errors, ffffffffffff errors and the play button not working. I'm forever in a loop of uninstal > reinstall > borked still > uninstall > reinstall. Oh, left it patching over-night. wake up 8 hours later and it's still at 47%. p2p is off. It's like if you leave it alone it goes in hibernation
shepardG
05-01-2012, 10:33 AM
What's your comp specs and what sort of Internet do you have? And yeah if you have a screensaver/powermode I've noticed it will pause download.
I ran the diagnostics tool and it's above the recommended specs and my internet is okay. I checked my powermode and it was on after 3 hours so that probably did it. blagh =/
I would be able to play the game and then when I log out the play button just doesn't restart the game, that's where I get to now. I'm gunna try some suggestions that I got from the EU forums... sooooo we'll see. wish the launcher was like WoW and you could force it into the game and then input your account info there
Noobta
05-01-2012, 12:03 PM
Error: 500 - Internal Server Error
Can't login qqqq
Purrrfect
05-01-2012, 02:03 PM
It's like if you leave it alone it goes in hibernation
I noticed it doing shit like this when I installed. If I let it run in the background and check an hour later its down to like 200k/s and closing/reopening went back up to 2m/s.
Laude
05-01-2012, 05:49 PM
Hmm, I just got home from work, checked my mail, got my physical CE. Happeh times. But when I entered the code, it still says my sub will expire on the 4th. O_o I thought we get a month for free? Haven't seen anything about sub issues for the free month, just the sub issues not letting people play period.
CasualPlayer
05-01-2012, 10:11 PM
How long do we think until there is no longer a que to log into a pvp server? >.>
Senji
05-01-2012, 10:53 PM
Didn't have any que for JC today over a spread of logins.
Rulke
05-01-2012, 11:37 PM
Hmm, I just got home from work, checked my mail, got my physical CE. Happeh times. But when I entered the code, it still says my sub will expire on the 4th. O_o I thought we get a month for free? Haven't seen anything about sub issues for the free month, just the sub issues not letting people play period.
I think the main site said there were some issues? Before I entered my CE code my sub "expired" on May 4, but as soon as I entered it the page refreshed to June 4th. Maybe check to be sure it says june not may or if you have time do a quick online service call and ask.
Laude
05-02-2012, 01:30 AM
Found this in the support section
My subscription was billed immediately - where's my 30 day free trial?
We are seeing customers being billed immediately when they purchase their subscription. It appears to be customers who purchased physical copies of TERA and are buying their subscription before receiving and entering their game code to their account.
We are working on this, and will update this FAQ as we learn more.
I haven't sub'd yet but it still addresses the 30 free days, so it seems they're working on it.
Purrrfect
05-02-2012, 11:00 AM
It's a stupid complaint really, but whenever you talk to a npc that has a window popup like merchants/bank/broker when you click the button on their chat page that opens their interface and the chat/quest part closes they speak their 'goodbye' line even though you are still working with them.
CasualPlayer
05-02-2012, 12:51 PM
Think it depends when you're trying to log. I didn't have any que until I tried logging in after 10pm EST.
Amiricle
05-02-2012, 02:06 PM
Stupid complaint, but after the 100th or so "you need my help" I want to fireblast human npcs into human sized craters soo bad.
Maaglin
05-02-2012, 04:28 PM
The quest system in this game is horrible. I never read or listen to anything the npc's say anymore.
Rakisho
05-02-2012, 04:51 PM
The quest system in this game is horrible. I never read or listen to anything the npc's say anymore.
Elaborate please.
mallister
05-02-2012, 05:05 PM
i dunno that it's horrible, but it's definitely simple (especially compared to FF's bullshit quests): most of them are fetch/carry/killX, and all of the requirements + the locations of mobs and NPC's are trackable on your map and clicking thier name in the description.
Rakisho
05-02-2012, 05:18 PM
i dunno that it's horrible, but it's definitely simple (especially compared to FF's bullshit quests): most of them are fetch/carry/killX, and all of the requirements + the locations of mobs and NPC's are trackable on your map and clicking thier name in the description.
Exactly, like every single other MMORPG out there. And don't give me that bullcrap SWTORs was better, just because you get a 5 min cutscene why you should kill X or get X or destroy X doesn't make it better. (Last part not directed to the person I quoted).
Maaglin
05-02-2012, 05:44 PM
Elaborate please.
lol? Uninspiring kill/fetch/escort quests aren't very fun at all. The story quests are hardly any better and I haven't been impressed at all with the cut scenes.
Do you honestly read quests about why some npc wants X mobs destoryed? Who cares? I don't find it engaging in the least. All I do is click as fast as possible to accept quests at the quest hub, then run around the map killing stuff with ! on their head. When I see the horribly low xp quest after turning in a few, it means it's time to move on to the next hub.
I find the gameplay itself fun as hell and doing stuff with my guild is a blast. But the hub to hub quest leveing mechanism is absolutely horrible and dated. Do you really need this explained?
Maaglin
05-02-2012, 06:02 PM
At level 42 now and starting to see re-skinned mobs quite a bit now. One thing I really like about this game are the mobs and their design, so I hope they don't continue to recycle/reskin mobs as the levels continue to rise.
Rakisho
05-02-2012, 06:29 PM
lol? Uninspiring kill/fetch/escort quests aren't very fun at all. The story quests are hardly any better and I haven't been impressed at all with the cut scenes.
Do you honestly read quests about why some npc wants X mobs destoryed? Who cares? I don't find it engaging in the least. All I do is click as fast as possible to accept quests at the quest hub, then run around the map killing stuff with ! on their head. When I see the horribly low xp quest after turning in a few, it means it's time to move on to the next hub.
I find the gameplay itself fun as hell and doing stuff with my guild is a blast. But the hub to hub quest leveing mechanism is absolutely horrible and dated. Do you really need this explained?
No I just want to know what you expected, since I found your complaint retarded at best. I do not read the quest logs, and I never have, probably never will. No game can make an interesting story behind killing X mobs, so I don't care about it.
SWTOR tried by giving voice overs and cutscenes with each quest, but it was just annoying as hell and most people ended up skipping them anyways and just doing whatever the NPC wanted. There is no way to make a somewhat lengty MMORPG without grinding quests. You just can't get around it, well you can by having no quests and grinding without them.
Seriously, what did you expect?
Komm Suesser Tod
05-02-2012, 07:38 PM
My subscription ran out, even though I just bought the CE. Oh well, I have other stuff to do today.
Meresgi
05-02-2012, 11:15 PM
Seriously, what did you expect?
I expected the mother of all MMOs to redefine the entire genre from the ground up and have a complex and unique storyline akin to a single player 50yr game. Isn't that exactly how TERA marketed themselves?!
Oh wait no, they said it was fun combat, and that's true. The rest they never even said was changed.
WhiteChocobo
05-03-2012, 12:22 AM
My subscription ran out, even though I just bought the CE. Oh well, I have other stuff to do today.
Send in a ticket to the support team, they should be able to fix that. They've been having issues with it
Mellema
05-03-2012, 01:40 AM
Send in a ticket to the support team, they should be able to fix that. They've been having issues with it
They posted that you still have to set up a subscription, but won't be charged until after 30 days.
Meresgi
05-03-2012, 01:45 AM
Getting d/ced alot tonight on the east coast, none of the west coast guildies are dropping.
remdynex
05-03-2012, 02:28 AM
My subscription ran out, even though I just bought the CE. Oh well, I have other stuff to do today.
Got this problem as well, even then it won't let me pick a subscription as it keeps failing on me....
Oh well, ticket sent in. Hopefully it's fixed soon.
Komm Suesser Tod
05-03-2012, 02:44 AM
Got this problem as well, even then it won't let me pick a subscription as it keeps failing on me....
Oh well, ticket sent in. Hopefully it's fixed soon.
I set up a subscription, didn't have to pay anything and started playing again.
Edit: Correction, my card just got charged.
WhiteChocobo
05-03-2012, 07:50 AM
I set up a subscription, didn't have to pay anything and started playing again.
Edit: Correction, my card just got charged.
Another thing that's not meant to happen that they know about, contact the support team! Buggy release is buggy
Komm Suesser Tod
05-03-2012, 09:44 AM
Another thing that's not meant to happen that they know about, contact the support team! Buggy release is buggy
Yeah, I've already submitted tickets, but as long as it gets sorted out, $15 is a big deal.
remdynex
05-03-2012, 05:56 PM
Still no answer on my ticket, not expecting one any time soon but as of today i have 0 Days left according to my account lol.
I keep getting failed response on all the subscription plans. This company needs to be more like SE when it comes to taking money....
Guess this gives me time to buy/play PE3 from psn store.
Laude
05-03-2012, 06:49 PM
I'm 580-ish in que for chat support right now, AND I'm in a que on their phone line. Like a boss.
Indalecia
05-03-2012, 07:05 PM
I just flat got kicked. Apparantly, the sub bug I had on launch day WASN'T fixed. So yeah, 630 in line on the day I FINALLY finished all my finals and settled in to play.
So fucking pissed
Laude
05-03-2012, 10:13 PM
Still in chat que, 150, lol. 3 and a half hours, and still on que on the phone line, too.
Laude
05-03-2012, 10:52 PM
Update: Finally go through on the phone. They pretty much said they know there's a problem, and they'll have an answer/solution in 2-3 days. Dude was cool as shit and gave me 3 free grace days while the issue is being fixed, so I have until May 7th now. When he punched in my e-mail he goes "Annnd survey says... show me potato salad! *co-worker in background says "Potato Salad!"*" XD
Zetanio
05-04-2012, 01:15 AM
The camera jogs slightly to the right whenever I'm moving forward quickly.
Once I noticed it became almost unbearable. Try running forward on a mount or while sprinting.
Avarice
05-04-2012, 01:20 AM
The camera jogs slightly to the right whenever I'm moving forward quickly.
Once I noticed it became almost unbearable. Try running forward on a mount or while sprinting.
I've never had a problem with this, but if you want to change where your camera situates itself when following you (to a degree), you can use Shift+Arrow keys.
Zetanio
05-04-2012, 01:22 AM
I didn't try to hard to fix it honestly. It was right before I logged off for the day. I'll try that out tomorrow.
Argdar
05-04-2012, 02:43 PM
There hasn't been a single storyline fight anywhere that I was happy to see allied npcs "helping" me kill things. I have a giant axe, I can kill things fine. That stupid fight against Thulsa in Allamantheia didn't complete across four attempts for some stupid reason despite me getting first and last hits and doing way, way over 51% damage against him. It wasn't until a guildmate caught up and we rushed him that I got credit. Some of my friends ran into this problem on the Isle of Dawn because they've only been playing for 2-3 hours and their npc helper glitches them out of the win on that short dungeon because they may not have the combat down completely yet.
Seriously, what is even the point of adding "helpers" if using them for what is ostensibly their purpose will just screw you out of the win anyway?
Kaisha
05-04-2012, 04:44 PM
Seriously, what is even the point of adding "helpers" if using them for what is ostensibly their purpose will just screw you out of the win anyway?
Probably for the same reason a lot of the other quirks in the game suck ass and reek of "Why didn't they test this?". I'm not sure why Story mobs don't just give credit to everyone who touches them anyways. What difference does it make? It's not a world boss that actually drops something.
All I had for the last two hours in the game was PVP Engaged, PVP Ended messages because one person in my party had high infamy, and every time I heal/buffed him it was considered 'attacking' him. Makes me wonder if it'd do the same shit if you party up with someone who's in a guild that's at war with you.
Eddard
05-04-2012, 06:23 PM
So my game time expired.... wtf? Apparently my registration code got applied to the inactive account under my email so I don't get my free 30days... PLUS I signed up for my game subscription after my 30days were up and that got applied to the wrong account as well (even though I hit the manage subscription under the right name...)... so put in a support ticket only to find out 24hrs later that no one has read it yet (which is somewhat understandable with the issues of people getting locked out of their accounts). now get to wait for a call back or online support, whichever happens first, about getting this fixed...
In short... I have terrible luck.... god damn it....
Laude
05-04-2012, 11:14 PM
They claim they fixed the expired account shit, but mine still expires on the 7th. =/ Gonna have to que up for chat/phone again, blargh.
EDIT: Well, they claim they fixed the "vast majority", anyway.
Laude
05-05-2012, 01:21 AM
From the support page:
Do I have to setup a subscription to use the free 30 days included in my box purchase?
Yes, after you have successfully activated your TERA game code you will need to setup a subscription. After you have completed the subscription setup process you will NOT be charged until your 30 days of game time have expired.
In addition to the information above, if you have purchased a copy of TERA from a retail partner, and did not participate in the Head Start, you will have a 3 day grace period to setup your TERA subscription after activating your game code. If you were part of the Head Start and pre-ordered from a retail partner you will have 1 day to setup your subscription after activating your game code.
I've never played an MMO where you have to sub to get your 30 days. Usually the CD key is what gives you your free 30 days. Meh. At least you can cancel before you get charged, I think.
Katlan
05-05-2012, 01:37 AM
From the support page:
I've never played an MMO where you have to sub to get your 30 days. Usually the CD key is what gives you your free 30 days. Meh. At least you can cancel before you get charged, I think.
You must have not played a mmo in the last 10 years because every single mmo requires you to establish a billing cycle and give them a CC before you can play. WoW, Aion, XIV, AoC, SWTOR, WAR, have I missed one?
Laude
05-05-2012, 02:02 AM
I honestly didn't even think of XI and XIV when I said that, my bad. But I honestly don't remember putting in my CC info for SWTOR or WoW until my free time was up (WoW was a recruit-a-friend and I bought the game and entered my code, I don't really remember it that well, was back in 2009). Never played AoC, or WAR. When I picked up Aion, I didn't get 30 days so I of course had to set up a cycle right then and there.
In other words, my memory sucks and I'm talking out of my ass. Carry on. <_<
MaachaQ
05-05-2012, 10:03 PM
So, now I get to wait for my parents to send me my Collector's Edition before I can play again T.T Silly me for not getting the digital CE, but I love me some fancy packaging... Also, my VPN subscription ran out and I'll need to renew in order to play again, but it's more expensive than it used to be... used to be $49.99 for a year, now it's $69.99. #FirstWorldProblems
Mistral
05-06-2012, 07:42 AM
Gonna have to make a disclaimer here: I don't know if anyone's actually confirmed this already about PvP's rules, but I just got a GM response and am a bit peeved to say the least.
I read the BG topic concerning the PvP rules, and I thought it was pretty neat, etc.
So uh, (hours and hours later in queue...) I was curious about PvP server penalties since it didn't seem like those rules were actually in place (should be a lot less ganking outside of GvG amirite?)
This was not the response I expected.
I swore they were *going* to have the Korean rules for Infamy, but it looks like it's literally a free-for-all - AND they plan to keep it that way. EME currently has no plans to implement the Korean rules, as per this guy.
Time to start a shitstorm on the official forums, eh? He/She/It was cool about it, and offered to submit my chat session as a ticket labeled as a Suggestion, which I most definitely was cool with. This isn't the whole conversation (since most of it was my bitchfest in proper english), but I've got it here to confirm any suspicions.
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Ratatapa
05-06-2012, 08:12 AM
I am not a fan of PVP so didnt read the PVP thread but what is the korean rules?
Senji
05-06-2012, 09:50 AM
Its in the first post of the PVP thread.
Okay when I take a freakin Pegasus I should be able to click through shit and adjust my action bars with abilities and what-not
Maaglin
05-07-2012, 03:45 AM
Not being able to see the gear stats on cross-server players.
brand
05-07-2012, 11:58 AM
Christ, what is wrong with Dragonfall? Three different back-to-back parties filled with them and not a one spoke English with any command (this is sort of important in sky garden if you don't know what is going on). They couldn't even speak with each other. Worse is they always seem to end up with lead, despite my queuing with that option and they DISBAND the party after the first wipe cause the one other non-Dragonfall leaves. Like dps queues aren't long enough, you're left locked out and on cooldown.
nekura
05-07-2012, 11:58 AM
I've yet to have a group as smooth to heal as my very first one. :( It's generally not a problem to heal through people taking unnecessary damage, but sometimes too much stray damage + targeting issues result in a dead party member.
Coren
05-07-2012, 12:14 PM
Okay when I take a freakin Pegasus I should be able to click through shit and adjust my action bars with abilities and what-not
I can't think of a reason to ever have that shit grayed out. I tend to play with gear when climbing ladders and vines, for instance. Ugh.
Only being able to qeue up as a dps as Warrior in the instance matching sucks. This of course means I find out that Lancer isn't half as idiot proof as I was led to believe as I get stuck with a lancer in SM that doesn't know how to use block and can't keep threat so he and the healer kept dying.
Lucavi
05-07-2012, 06:37 PM
^ This is the worst problem with the game, IMO, aside from the chat bug. Having a, what, 1/7 chance to get a tank, before you even factor in any other factors, when you flag up for the instance matching, is simply pathetic.
Greatguardian
05-07-2012, 09:54 PM
tbh I can sorta understand EME's thought process behind that. It's not too outrageous to assume that most hardcore/raiding players will be able to form up some kind of group or static on their own or with their guild if they had the time and inclination. Random PUGs in any game are notoriously bad, so it's little surprise that they tried to gear them towards the most idiot-proof setup possible. When you have people capable of screwing up Lancer tanking these things, just imagine how the average pickup Warrior would fare as a main tank.
Dngnhack
05-08-2012, 04:12 AM
I hate when LFG tool gives me 3 melee + tank... sad day to be a mystic when they won't run from the stun debuff or they run at me with it.
Meresgi
05-08-2012, 07:38 AM
When you have people capable of screwing up Lancer tanking these things, just imagine how the average pickup Warrior would fare as a main tank.
Have to agree, i've had a few people fuck up as a Lancer tank in NT and CR...how its possible I have no idea, but they are slow as shit and sit with their back to bosses and trash. Then you have the pugs who get lost and come running into the boss room as you pull, training half a dozen mobs with them (this happened last night in NT)
Miraun
05-08-2012, 08:45 AM
I hate when LFG tool gives me 3 melee + tank... sad day to be a mystic when they won't run from the stun debuff or they run at me with it.
While I completely agree with this... It just means that we don't have any competition for cloth drops, so it allows me to press on and just heal the clusterfuck of melees zerging whatever they're fighting.
Lucavi
05-08-2012, 08:54 AM
tbh I can sorta understand EME's thought process behind that. It's not too outrageous to assume that most hardcore/raiding players will be able to form up some kind of group or static on their own or with their guild if they had the time and inclination. Random PUGs in any game are notoriously bad, so it's little surprise that they tried to gear them towards the most idiot-proof setup possible. When you have people capable of screwing up Lancer tanking these things, just imagine how the average pickup Warrior would fare as a main tank.
So why, then, would you allow a game that is heavily dependent on both questing and instance grinding as a means of progression, essentially only to have a single tank class, and then mandate that the dungeon-finder must have a tank? You're setting yourself, and your player-base, up for disaster. You're setting anyone up that isn't a Lancer for massive, massive queues. They should have brought in an additional, traditional tank class if they felt that the average warrior couldn't hack it as a tank.
I don't necessarily mind that they feel iffy about Warrior tanking in the overall sense. They've buffed its damage to the point where it can function as either or, but again, you are then left with 2 healers, a slew of DPS, and a lone, single tank class. For those with statics, this is no issue, but for the rest of us, we know good and well just how much the average person enjoys playing a tank. Its hard to find tanks regardless, but then you essentially castrate one of the nuts off of the tanking scholng by only having 1 available tank... the massive ques are completely understandable at that point.
Either open it up, or make a second true tanking class.
Elcura
05-08-2012, 09:29 AM
Either open it up, or make a second true tanking class.
I wouldn't think EME could do anything about this apart from making warriors able to que as tanks.
Lucavi
05-08-2012, 09:37 AM
I suppose EME (they can't actually produce additional content, only modify it, right?) cannot.
Gulkeeva
05-08-2012, 09:39 AM
They need to allow a way to grind other rep factions, you can only grind 1 faction for rep... very... slowly... (way too many ranks imo)
Hostile, Suspicious, Apprehensive, Wavering, Neutral, Favorable, Friendly, Trusted, Revered
You can buy the vendor mount item (for 3,500 rep coins) which you probably won't have till revered anyway.
Oly 3 daily quests, each 600-800 rep, wavering requires 9000 rep to go neutral... 12000 fav, 20,000 for friendly, 20,000 to trust... O_o (25rep per mob kill)
manako
05-08-2012, 10:03 AM
Matching is a pain because it doesn't work, additionally factoring in players who can't seem to tank.
I did a BoL run with 4 dps and that was super easy. The group was smart enough to stay in my heal circles. Another time I go with lancer and warrior and everyone got trashed, was a huge mess.
Meresgi
05-08-2012, 12:45 PM
I love getting dps warriors while on my slayer alt that do not use any debuffs AT ALL on the bosses. How the fuck do you only cycle through Death from Above, Vortex slash and Rain of Blows?
Edit: Even better when that same warrior wins the armor you've been farming for, after dying 3 times on the 2nd to last boss of NT due to sitting in puddles of shit.
Ambrosia
05-08-2012, 02:54 PM
Eventually Warriors will be able to queue up as tanks, but it depends on when BHS finishes testing it. If it is just a straight up translation of having the Warrior class tank, we might get it in June? But if there needs to be "slight" modifications whether to buffs or additional skills or tweaks or modifications when it comes to boss damage received (see if cool downs allow for cycles to occur in a timely manner) etc. then chances are that will add an additional month or two. Yeah it wasn't a good just have one tank queue up for dungeons, but nothing can be done at this point but to wait for the update.
*Looks at Meresgi's post*
*Takes out pencil and paper*
*Writes down the following*
*Don't use debuffs on bosses... use only one move... game detects you are not a super duper player and allows you to win phat(not fat!) loot*
*Folds paper*
*Exit stage left*
Lucavi
05-08-2012, 02:57 PM
What update are you speaking about? Is there some difference between the U.S. and Korean versions that somehow makes Warriors magical tanks over there, or this just another example of a game catering to the lowest common denominator?
30min maintenance in the middle of the day, FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUU
Lucavi
05-08-2012, 02:58 PM
YOU NEED MY HELP? YOU NEED MY HELP? YOU NEED MY HELP? YOU NEED MY HELP? YOU NEED MY HELP?????
Greatguardian
05-08-2012, 03:10 PM
What update are you speaking about? Is there some difference between the U.S. and Korean versions that somehow makes Warriors magical tanks over there, or this just another example of a game catering to the lowest common denominator?
Don't get me wrong, I have no intentions of whiteknighting the game in the complaint thread, but outside of the queue system I'm just genuinely curious about where the game seems to cater to the lowest common denominator. It's been my impression that the game is pretty much focused around providing content to the upper 10% of the playerbase. Even some of the tooltips address common scrub problems ("Don't flirt during BAM fights", "Inspect your party member's gear to make sure they aren't going to hold you back", etc). Even when the game starts handing out golds for quest rewards, that equipment is easily stomped by enchanted instance and crafted armor sets. I run around with full +6 armor and have about 35% more defense than the questline gold armor would offer me at this level.
Gimps aren't really given a free pass that I've noticed outside of the game's egregious reverence of the dLVL stat. This seems more of a holdover from the old exp curve. It's just annoying to get ganked by some level 60 Slayer only to inspect them and see them wearing some shit-tier level 45 blues and a single level 11 crystal. How the fuck does anyone end up that gimp in a game that hands you basic armor/weapons as you level?
Noobta
05-08-2012, 03:16 PM
What update are you speaking about? Is there some difference between the U.S. and Korean versions that somehow makes Warriors magical tanks over there, or this just another example of a game catering to the lowest common denominator?
The next Queen of Argon update coming out in Korea around summer(?). They're adding a stamina bar for lancers/warriors that will needed for blocking and such. Warriors dodge will also have no cooldown.
I'm starting to hate the NA/EU enchanting in this game. 6k gold spent on nothing but powders just to go from +7 to +8 on T12 gloves (only superiors were used as sacrifices). This wouldn't be nearly as bad if there were still eggs in the game. Instead, the only way you're able to get the proper powders is via store now. I think I prefer the KTera method simply because no one in their right mind used anything but blue powders anyways past +6, so the chances of de-lvling was close to zero.
Spellbinds are massively expensive, too. 200g+ to keep just one stat per reseal attempt? No thanks, I'll just try my luck with the 5g scrolls and keep at it, lol.
Avarice
05-08-2012, 04:08 PM
Spellbinds are massively expensive, too. 200g+ to keep just one stat per reseal attempt? No thanks, I'll just try my luck with the 5g scrolls and keep at it, lol.
So you really do have to re-spellbind it for each attempt? Geez, that is kinda shitty.
Faelindae
05-08-2012, 04:13 PM
They need to allow a way to grind other rep factions, you can only grind 1 faction for rep... very... slowly... (way too many ranks imo)
Hostile, Suspicious, Apprehensive, Wavering, Neutral, Favorable, Friendly, Trusted, Revered
You can buy the vendor mount item (for 3,500 rep coins) which you probably won't have till revered anyway.
Oly 3 daily quests, each 600-800 rep, wavering requires 9000 rep to go neutral... 12000 fav, 20,000 for friendly, 20,000 to trust... O_o (25rep per mob kill)
Yeah, its pretty insane trying to get revered right now even with aoe'ing down packs of 6-10 for rep. :/
Lucavi
05-08-2012, 04:13 PM
The next Queen of Argon update coming out in Korea around summer(?). They're adding a stamina bar for lancers/warriors that will needed for blocking and such. Warriors dodge will also have no cooldown.
Oh thank God for the cooldown-less dodge. My warrior is only 16, and I haven't started tanking anything major yet, but I was always wondering how the hell Warrior was supposed to actually dodge mobs when its restricted to 6 seconds. I was assuming there would be a glyph with like a 75% chance to reset the dodge cooldown or something, but this works out as well.
@Le Burninator: The tooltips, while refreshing, are nothing that couldn't be gleaned from anyone who has played MMOs since WoW; almost all of them feel directly ripped from experiences in other MMOs, which makes sense, as that's probably the best way to write them. I'm pleased at EME for writing them, but I'm not going to give them some sort of blowjob or anything for doing it. Its all common knowledge.
And I'm with you, bro: The difference between instanced golds and quest golds are night and day, but that's not going to excuse EME in my mind for not doing something about Warriors not being listed as tanks in dungeon finder, yet being listed as tanks on the description page. Yes, I know its difficult, but hell, I'm a priest on my alt; I can heal a shitty lancer, and I can heal a shitty warrior, and I'd rather be given the chance to do so than to have to sit in a que for an hour because in a game with upwards of 7 classes, only one classifies as a tank, and the game can somehow match people based on their gear level, but can't use that same gear level as a threshold as to whether or not a Warrior can tank the instance or not.
A "solution" of sorts to this tank problem would simply to perform a numerical gear check on the warrior in question, and if the warrior's gear or level is high enough, place them into the queue as a tank. If it isn't, then place them in the queue as a DPS. If a warrior "tank" gets matched up with a lancer "tank" in the same party, then its no harm, no foul (and that's really my favorite class build anyway, with another sustained DPS - archer/slayer - and a nuke DPS - zerker/sorc -). The odds of a well-geared or instance-overleveled warrior being a completely shitty tank isn't as high as the frustration level that people are experiencing at the massive queues.
I don't think you are WhiteKnighting, and even if you were, I wouldn't call you out on it, because the game -is- a hell of a lot of fun. I just know where I stand right now; most people are in a rush to hit 60, you can't really have higher levels rush lower levels through instances and gear up, and quite frankly, I enjoy running instances more than anything in this game right now. I love to run them again, and again, and again, until I have golds in every slot, or I'm overleveling the instance by nearly double digits. I can't really do that ATM when my healer (A FUCKING HEALER) is sitting in monster queues, and if I have to level another alt through the lowbie zones again, I'm going to shoot myself (even though I'm currently doing just that as a Lancer, just so I can finally have a class that allows me to do the one thing I'm really enjoying about the game - running instances). Notice I didn't even mention my Zerker main; that's just pointless to even queue.
Its getting to the point where I will refuse anyone who wants to static with my tank, because I already know that I won't want to be tied down to anyone's schedule, since I can effectively have a .5 second wait in a que, whenever I so desire.
Meresgi
05-08-2012, 04:55 PM
A "solution" of sorts to this tank problem would simply to perform a numerical gear check on the warrior in question, and if the warrior's gear or level is high enough, place them into the queue as a tank. If it isn't, then place them in the queue as a DPS. If a warrior "tank" gets matched up with a lancer "tank" in the same party, then its no harm, no foul (and that's really my favorite class build anyway, with another sustained DPS - archer/slayer - and a nuke DPS - zerker/sorc -). The odds of a well-geared or instance-overleveled warrior being a completely shitty tank isn't as high as the frustration level that people are experiencing at the massive queues.
This comes into question though if the warrior WANTS to tank and if his item level is actually equipped or items in his bags as well. I can tank just fine on my warrior, but i'm not glyphed for it, so in order to tank dungeons I try to be at least the lvl of the bosses or 1 lvl under at max. I agree warriors should be able to queue up as tank if they want, but id rather be able to decide if I want to do dps or tank, aka if I want to sit around for an hour or go in instantly. (this depends, since I can grind quests while in queue so no biggie)
Lucavi
05-08-2012, 05:01 PM
A nifty little drop-down icon for Warrior would be a handy solution, then, especially as they've designed the job (now) to do two things separate from one another.
Meresgi
05-08-2012, 05:32 PM
Yeah, or even let it be like WOW where you can select multiple roles, or offer rewards for tanks queuing up that are minor things like armor dyes/potions.
Keshad
05-08-2012, 06:10 PM
Offering any choice for warrior i.e to queue as tank or dps/melee would basically end up being useless as mentioned before, as they'd just queue as a tank for faster instances then claim they want to dps. Either way at least the lower level instances can generally make do with a bunch of classes, it's just easier with a dedicated tank and well pug's yeah it's always a roll of the die
Sup3rB4d
05-08-2012, 10:10 PM
...Its an option in WoW and after playing wow for several years I have never seen a dps queue as tank. I'm sure it happens, but to think it would be standard practice is pretty retarded.
Warrior really just needs one more dodge. I don't know if they get something else past 40, but I currently have death from above and evasive roll and those two with their current cooldown just isn't enough. If the mob becomes enraged and starts spamming special moves you just can't dodge them all. Pretty happy hearing about the Ktera warrior tank changes, but no dodge cooldown may make War way less fun to play. Not sure how I feel about it.
Kachiko
05-08-2012, 10:37 PM
Except that, with rare, talented exception, you're not going to have a warrior tanking lvl 60 instances, let alone hard modes. It's a fatal flaw of the game right now; Lancer or GTFO unless you really know your shit, which most warriors do not, and never will, outside of a DPS role.
This makes PUG groups that much more innane, because of how unforgiving even the normal 60 instances are. If you're in a static, with vent, you'll roll them, but outside of that, right now, it's a cluster fuck.
Lucavi
05-08-2012, 11:04 PM
Well I definately want challenging content, so I've been listening to all the stories about the 60's instances with great relish, but yeah, they need to do something about the earlier instances. That gear can run you from instance to instance, but its very, very hard right now unless you're either a tank, or have a static.
I'm working on my lancer as we speak; if you can't beat em....
Charismatic
05-08-2012, 11:22 PM
...Its an option in WoW and after playing wow for several years I have never seen a dps queue as tank. I'm sure it happens, but to think it would be standard practice is pretty retarded.
Warrior really just needs one more dodge. I don't know if they get something else past 40, but I currently have death from above and evasive roll and those two with their current cooldown just isn't enough. If the mob becomes enraged and starts spamming special moves you just can't dodge them all. Pretty happy hearing about the Ktera warrior tank changes, but no dodge cooldown may make War way less fun to play. Not sure how I feel about it.
I am actually UNHAPPY hearing about the K-TERA tank changes because I'm sure that'll end up worse in the long run. You can already glyph down the CD on DFA and Evasive Roll is just fine. MOST attacks that BAMs/bosses tend to use can be avoided without using either anyway. If you position.
If you think of the front of the mobs sorta like Wyms in XI, I kinda try to stay as if I wanted to be on its 'paw'.
To clarify a bit, I try not to be directly in front of enemies if I can avoid it, it is generally not very difficult to essentially 'walk' out of the way of most moves when you are positioned like that. Also, Rising Fury moves you around a bit... pretty nice dodge move if used properly as it moves you slightly faster than your normal run speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ZTX31fGtk
Meresgi
05-09-2012, 12:29 AM
NT last boss is SUPER HARD GUYS.
Lucavi
05-09-2012, 01:07 AM
Here's a valid complaint: you cant trade across servers in the dungeon finder. I had a forgetful mage lot on gold gloves in SM that my priest needed. I told her before and after that I needed them, but she won the lot (set to class specific). She couldn't trade after the fact, and I was down a pair of gold gloves.
Patch it, or have the gear check do an actual inventory check.
Coren
05-09-2012, 01:45 AM
Or limit to shit like consumables and items dropped within the instance.
Elesirdur
05-09-2012, 03:05 AM
Doubt it'll happen for the same reasons I recall it not being allowed in WoW. Bluehole/EME may see that as constituting cross-server trade, which could possibly (though it seems remote to me) mess up the closed economies of each server. They would have to introduce some new flag for every item that could possibly drop in a dungeon to indicate it is cross-server tradable, but only under those specific circumstances of being in a dungeon where it dropped and in the presence of players from multiple servers. I'm sure it's doable programming wise, but something tells me that they won't for fear of introducing cross-server trading or player accusing them of that.
Kaisha
05-09-2012, 04:14 AM
Timestamp the gear and give it a 3min grace window upon obtaining for trading to others from other server? You're already allowing cross-server players to play with each other, it'll affect the economy either way really.
Anyways, fuck the lack of quest variety in this game. Almost at lvl45 and it's just the same two damn quests templates over and over. The first 20 levels at least peppered in some escorts and random one-offs like pigling taming. After that? Pretty much solely kill X of Y and harvest X of Y nonstop.
Probably a moot point given it's an MMO borrowing heavily from the WoW template, but it's annoying none the less given the lack of other things to do in the game to take a break from all that to make it easier to chew.
Maaglin
05-09-2012, 05:32 AM
oops, wrong thread.
Rulke
05-09-2012, 10:04 AM
Timestamp the gear and give it a 3min grace window upon obtaining for trading to others from other server? You're already allowing cross-server players to play with each other, it'll affect the economy either way really.
Anyways, fuck the lack of quest variety in this game. Almost at lvl45 and it's just the same two damn quests templates over and over. The first 20 levels at least peppered in some escorts and random one-offs like pigling taming. After that? Pretty much solely kill X of Y and harvest X of Y nonstop.
Probably a moot point given it's an MMO borrowing heavily from the WoW template, but it's annoying none the less given the lack of other things to do in the game to take a break from all that to make it easier to chew.
I would have liked to see more escort style quests or defend person/place quests (like sorcha). Perhaps these are in Dailys.
Kachiko
05-09-2012, 12:09 PM
I would have liked to see more escort style quests or defend person/place quests (like sorcha). Perhaps these are in Dailys.
Not so far, but, maybe at higher reputation levels. They are quite underwhelming, compared to normal quests.
Kaisha
05-09-2012, 02:11 PM
I would have liked to see more escort style quests or defend person/place quests (like sorcha). Perhaps these are in Dailys.
I was thinking with the game having channels built into it, that they'd just do shit that would otherwise make people have to wait in line to do it themselves in other MMOs. Things like monster raid defends in the public zones, rather than instancing that kind of content all off.
Really hope they plan to dedicated one of their team members to go back and spice up some of the typical yellow quests, and add some zing in every couple of levels just to keep stuff more varied/interesting for the potential future subscribers of the game.
TERA has a good foundation, the devs just need to push it a little harder rather than the 30-seconds-to-script quests that currently plagued it.
mallister
05-09-2012, 05:34 PM
my current beef is about the 'kill this BAM X number of times' quests, and the random people that come by and hit your mob so you get no credit on the quest for the kill. being a lancer, it takes me @7 minutes to kill a BAM as it is. shit is annoying as hell.
The Stig
05-09-2012, 05:45 PM
Ah I've not had that oddly enough.
I was soloing Basilisks, and built up a small audience. No one ganked or tried to interfere, or asked to group up with me.
I felt like a boss.
Serif
05-09-2012, 08:52 PM
Just started paying attention to the random stats you get from Oranges. Found a +9.1% Heal, 6% Less Aggro, +0.5% MP on skill Scepter with +6% Less Aggro at +6 wand on the Broker. Decided to go through the rest of the items to see if I could find something better. Could not find something better and went back to buy the item and it was already sold. I wish they had who sold what to whom like FFXI so I could offer the guy more for the item :L
Noobta
05-09-2012, 09:04 PM
Just started paying attention to the random stats you get from Oranges. Found a +9.1% Heal, 6% Less Aggro, +0.5% MP on skill Scepter with +6% Less Aggro at +6 wand on the Broker. Decided to go through the rest of the items to see if I could find something better. Could not find something better and went back to buy the item and it was already sold. I wish they had who sold what to whom like FFXI so I could offer the guy more for the item :L
The tab next to Search Item called Recent History?
Serif
05-09-2012, 09:06 PM
The tab next to Search Item called Recent History?
THE MORE YOU KNOW RAINBOOOOOW
Laude
05-09-2012, 10:37 PM
LOK! LOK! LOK! LOK! LOK! LOK! LOK! LOK! LOK! LOK! LOK!
...............
Also yeah, I agree with the questing, but the saving grace is the battle system itself. It's just so satisfying plowing through things on my Slayer. :D Varied quests would just make it 10000000x better.
Klain
05-09-2012, 11:00 PM
Holy fuck at some people LOL can tell they didn't learn shit leveling up. Did an Ebon Tower run to help a friend and this priest we had literally kept RUNNING through the poison traps and died like 4 times. We kept telling them about the dungeon and what to do, but they just kept running in. Lancer kept assuring us that you can go through them, and raised him while he was in the trap and died again. Priest kept saying that he had nothing to close the gap. He even regen circled, then ran through it and died again. I honestly would've been more annoyed if it wasn't so fucking hilarious. Did have a cross server with some BG dudes earlier and was super smooth, so clearly was destined to happen.
Uryuu
05-09-2012, 11:13 PM
Holy fuck at some people LOL can tell they didn't learn shit leveling up. Did an Ebon Tower run to help a friend and this priest we had literally kept RUNNING through the poison traps and died like 4 times. We kept telling them about the dungeon and what to do, but they just kept running in. Lancer kept assuring us that you can go through them, and raised him while he was in the trap and died again. Priest kept saying that he had nothing to close the gap. He even regen circled, then ran through it and died again. I honestly would've been more annoyed if it wasn't so fucking hilarious. Did have a cross server with some BG dudes earlier and was super smooth, so clearly was destined to happen.
^ Pics. He tried to tell us priest had no leap skill/way to get across the poison traps...
http://i47.tinypic.com/md1kk6.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/25hlb3q.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/2z85cgl.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/2lus0a1.jpg
iulus
05-09-2012, 11:17 PM
maybe it was his first rodeo?
MaachaQ
05-10-2012, 07:09 AM
Can't get the EnMasse site to accept either of my US credit cards for subscription >< I only got 1 day of play after entering my CE code, now I'm stuck without my TERA fix again... Waiting for support, but there's 36 in line ahead of me...
And, I now get to wait up to 3 days to play again ><
GM Da.Last.Daun: Hi, my name is GM Da.Last.Daun. How may I help you?
GM Da.Last.Daun: Hello
MaachaQ .: I have been having trouble adding a subscription to my account
GM Da.Last.Daun: How may I help you?
MaachaQ .: I'm not sure what you can do, both credit cards I have tried give a "Payment failed" message.
MaachaQ .: The only other credit cards I have are not US based
GM Da.Last.Daun: I store has stopped the process at this time I will see they would be able to push this order through. This process can take up to 3 days to do. You will receive an email.
MaachaQ .: OK, will I be able to play the game in the meantime or will I need to wait?
GM Da.Last.Daun: Unfortunately you will have to wait.
MaachaQ .: /sigh Oh well, I'm glad that it should be resolved as soon as they are able to push it through at least
MaachaQ .: So there is nothing else you can do? All I need to do is wait for the e-mail?
GM Da.Last.Daun: At this time there isn't anything I can do.
MaachaQ .: Thank you for your time.
You have disconnected.
Avarice
05-10-2012, 10:37 AM
Random Complaint #19502 about the instance matchmaker.
Spent two hours looking for a group for Labyrinth of Terror. Finally get one, get in, and the first thing out of the leader's mouth (who, I might add, is a Lancer, so queue dungeons are handed to them on a silver fucking platter) is "have you guys done this before?" A few of us say no and without missing a beat, he disbands the entire party, which then kicks everyone out and forces me to re-queue. Yea, I mad.
Tyrath
05-10-2012, 11:29 AM
Man I've only insta queued once so far and we were looking for a lancer. Had like the exact opposite experience that you did. We get the lancer for the Sigil instance. He says hes never done it before but hes looked up all the bosses and proceeds to brief us before every fight and we win them all easy.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/253/everything_went_better_than_expected.jpg
Uryuu
05-10-2012, 11:52 AM
Random Complaint #19502 about the instance matchmaker.
Spent two hours looking for a group for Labyrinth of Terror. Finally get one, get in, and the first thing out of the leader's mouth (who, I might add, is a Lancer, so queue dungeons are handed to them on a silver fucking platter) is "have you guys done this before?" A few of us say no and without missing a beat, he disbands the entire party, which then kicks everyone out and forces me to re-queue. Yea, I mad.
We usually get someone who ditches the second queue finishesx then the other person sees that and bails too. Then we get dropout status....
JigglyJam
05-10-2012, 12:34 PM
BoL, low level shit, had two DPS bail cause I was tanking on warrior before we even started. Went with two archers and a priest and I got blue weapon so nyah.
Misterjingles
05-10-2012, 12:36 PM
In that dead zone where I'm too low to level with the people I've met and guild members, and too high of a level to play with the rest of the people in the guild and the commoners.
/firstworldproblems
Maaglin
05-10-2012, 04:30 PM
In that dead zone where I'm too low to level with the people I've met and guild members, and too high of a level to play with the rest of the people in the guild and the commoners.
/firstworldproblems
Same. Feels bad man.
Rakisho
05-10-2012, 05:48 PM
I don't like it that to reroll a stat you have to have an enigmatic (spelling?) item. I mean seriously, I got some random crap stat for my lvl 60 bow from Fane of Kaprima that's not enigmatic, and I can't change it. So basically, first I have to see it drop again, then I have to win it, then it has to have a good stat, too many factors in my opinion.
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