Police beat women opposing Sudan dress code trial

[Neosutra]

The Associated Press: Police beat women opposing Sudan dress code trial

But seriously, are these the "moderate" Islamics or the extremist? If they are the extremist where exactly are the moderates located?

Is anyone else upset that hundreds of millions of women on that side of the planet are basically treated as sub human?

[Therin]

This wouldn't have happened had they stayed in their kitchens.

[Neosutra]

This wouldn't have happened had they stayed in their kitchens.

Depends on wether they were wearing pants in their kitchen. The public order police can come in your house as well.

[Avanarius]

Just another leg in the race to gender equality.

[Plow]

Shit they should just be thankful to Islam for keeping the men from all being gay, imagine how much worse it would be for them then.

[wop]

I'm totally not surprised at all.
I went to a watertheme park in a Muslim country several years back, some women were playing in the wave pool in burkhas.

[Demosthenes11]

The Associated Press: Police beat women opposing Sudan dress code trial

But seriously, are these the "moderate" Islamics or the extremist? If they are the extremist where exactly are the moderates located?

Is anyone else upset that hundreds of millions of women on that side of the planet are basically treated as sub human?

always bugs me when liberal minded feminists are cool with Islam and the bullshit the propagate. It's not ok when it's religious; fuck their views on women

[Dimmauk]

Isnt a Burka just an oversized Apron?

[wop]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-By4xFJwDY...in+burkhas.jpg

[Dimmauk]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-By4xFJwDY...in+burkhas.jpg

Looks like

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/...574be36a54.jpg

[Correction]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-By4xFJwDY...in+burkhas.jpg

I loved that scene in Spaceballs.

[Plow]

Looks like

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/...574be36a54.jpg

Are you telling me teutonic knights are just women in burkas?!?!

[Dimmauk]

Are you telling me teutonic knights are just women in burkas?!?!

They wear hoods. Not the same.

[Sirenia]

I would love to shoot those people point blank through the skull.

[Mayareira]

2x post.

[Dimmauk]

The Associated Press: Police beat women opposing Sudan dress code trial

But seriously, are these the "moderate" Islamics or the extremist? If they are the extremist where exactly are the moderates located?

Is anyone else upset that hundreds of millions of women on that side of the planet are basically treated as sub human?

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/afp/20090729/c...900739-1-0.jpg

How dare her wear this! What a slut.

[Mayareira]

Sharia, or any law based on religion is extreme. You can't expect freedom in a non-secular state.

[Khamsin]

I would love to shoot those people point blank through the skull.

For protesting the trial, or did you mean the police who beat them for it?

[wop]

Gonna bump this instead of making a new topic.
Sex-starved Afghans can deny food to wives: Report - UK - World - NEWS - The Times of India

LONDON: Afghanistan has enacted a new legislation empowering men of Shia sect of Islam to deny their wives food and sustenance if they refuse to
obey their husbands' sexual demands, a media report said on Saturday.

The new final draft of the legislation also grants guardianship of children exclusively to their fathers and grandfathers, and requires women to get permission from their husbands to work, The Guardian reported.

"It also effectively allows a rapist to avoid prosecution by paying 'blood money' to a girl who was injured when he raped her," the report said quoting US charity Human Rights Watch.

In early April, US President Barack Obama and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown joined an international chorus of condemnation when the earlier version of the law legalised rape within marriage.

Although Afghan President Hamid Karzai appeared to back down, activists said the revised law still contained repressive measures and contradicted Afghanistan's constitution and international treaties it is signed up to.

According to the report, the new law has been backed by the hardline Shia cleric Ayatollah Mohseni, who is thought to have influence over the voting intentions of some Shias, who make up around 20 per cent of the population.

Karzai has assiduously courted such minority leaders in the run up to next Thursday's election, which is likely to be close, a poll indicated.

Karzai’s approval of ‘marital rape’ law leads to international rift - Times Online

President Karzai has approved a law that critics say condones marital rape, opening a rift in the international community as it debates how best to respond without disrupting Thursday’s presidential election.

The schism emerged when donor countries met to discuss the law after learning it had come into effect late in July despite condemnation of an earlier draft by Western leaders including President Obama and Gordon Brown. Canada and several European countries favour making a strong public protest over the Shia Personal Status Law which, among other things, permits Shia men to refuse to give food to their wives if they do not have sex with them.

But the United States and Britain are now opposed to any strong public protest because they fear that speaking out could disrupt Thursday’s election, according to two sources familiar with the donors’ meeting.

“There was a disagreement over how to respond,” one of the sources said. “The British and Americans were reluctant to speak out.” The controversy exposes the contradictions between Afghanistan’s traditional values and Western efforts to instill democracy and human rights after toppling the Taleban.

It also highlights tensions within the international community between countries which tend to focus on stability and security and those which place a greater emphasis on promoting Western liberal values.

The legislation is meant to govern family law for Afghanistan’s Shia Muslim minority, which makes up about 15 per cent of the population of about 30 million.

Mr Karzai first approved the law earlier this year but was forced to review it after Western leaders and Afghan women’s rights groups protested over provisions that they said were reminiscent of Taleban rule. Mr Obama called the law “abhorrent”.

Mr Karzai said Western concerns about the law were “inappropriate” and may have been based on “misinterpretations”, but promised in April to make changes if it was found to violate the constitution.

Last week it emerged that it had been brought into effect on July 27.

Women’s rights advocates say the amended version does include some improvements, but dismiss most of the changes as window-dressing that does little to address their main concerns.

Dr Frozan Fana, one of two women candidates in the presidential election, accused Mr Karzai of pushing through the law in order to win the support of conservative clerics in the election.

“This law is not according to the Afghan constitution,” she told The Times. “I’m going to request the donor countries to take action over this.”

Fatemeh Hosseini, an Afghan women’s rights activist, said Mr Karzai had been stuck between the two sides of the debate, but in the end had given in to conservative clerics.

Human Rights Watch (HRW) accused Mr Karzai of making an “unthinkable deal to sell Afghan women out” in return for the support of fundamentalists. Brad Adams, its Asia director, said: “These kinds of barbaric laws were supposed to have been relegated to the past with the overthrow of the Taleban in 2001, yet Karzai has revived them and given them his official stamp of approval.”

The new draft of the law grants guardianship of children exclusively to their fathers and grandfathers, and requires women to get permission from their husbands to work, according to HRW. It also in effect enables a rapist to avoid prosecution by paying ‘blood money’, HRW says.

There are several different translations of the law being circulated. But the amended version is understood to have removed an article stipulating that a man has the right to demand sex from his wife, or wives, a certain number of times a week.

It is also believed to have changed the wording of the article that allows a man to deny his wife “maintenance” if she refuses his sexual demands. Instead, it says, he can refuse to maintain her if she does not perform her conjugal duties according to Sharia.

The US Embassy said it was “still reviewing and looking at it closely” and declined to comment on the reported rift in the international community.

An official at the British Embassy said: “There have been welcome improvements to the law, although some Afghan civil society organisations still have concerns — and we still have concerns. We are raising these concerns with the Afghan Government in coordination with the EU and other international partners.”

Denmark, however, issued a considerably firmer response. Per Stig Moller, the Foreign Minister, said he had written to his Afghan counterpart to express his concern. “The publication of the new law in Afghanistan is worrying,” he said. “According to preliminary reports it appears not to have changed enough.”

tldr version:-
1) Can starve wife if she doesn't want to have sex.
2) Law that condones rape

[Blarg]

Those women were treated as queens and were only beaten half as hard as normal.