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    Why Is Your Class Hard To Play?

    I am a discipline priest.

    I have to LOS CC(JK I have gladius cast bars set to maximum, focus set to large, and spell alerter and I still don't know when anybody is casting anything)

    I have to get in melee range to CC(BTW fear is countered by death knights, paladins, priests, warriors, shamans, warlocks and undead) and if I'm snared I can pretty much just give up hope of ever fearing anybody

    I have to offensively and defensively dispel

    I have to heal(penance, flash heal, shield, mending, renew)

    I have to dps(pain, plague, mind blast, death, glove rockets, holy fire, smite)

    I have to death sheeps and seductions(JK I can't do that cause I'm terrible and the few times I try to catch it I get caught in a global)

    I have to juke 6 different kinds of interrupts

    I have no way to break snares or roots

    I wear cloth armor

    I have the worst mana longevity of any healer

    Shadow fiend and hymn of hope are easily countered by everyone

    Going shadow doesn't alleviate any of the problems(except fade and dispersion break snares) because I still have to use all of the tools at my disposal. Discipline is a healer spec that also does damage, shadow is a dps spec that also heals

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    This isn't intended to be a QQ post about priests being underpowered, I just needed to vent a little.

    What do you think about the difficulty level of playing a priest?

    Why is your class hard to play?

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    Isnt disc priest good at mana longevity? (at least it was for PvE way back when I played)


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    In PvE, yes. He's talking PvP.

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    I assumed so, but always thought more or less mechanics applied (for the mana).

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    Disc priests had infinite mana when WotLK first launched, Rapture mechanics made it so that if you crit heal you got more mana back than the spell initially cost. Then Rapture was nerfed to only give you 8% of your maximum mana back every minute. Then mana regen from spirit was nerfed by 40%. Then replenishment was nerfed to not work on teammates in arena, so we lost 200+ mp5 if we previously ran with a replenishment class. Then shadowfiend was nerfed to be susceptible to CC, so we no longer get mana from it because every class in the game can easily lock it down. Then PVP gear gives up stats for resilience, so you can't focus on crit, haste, and mp5, and you need crit or haste or else you can't keep your teammates alive, so you have to give up longevity.

    Originally, we were designed to have less longevity than other classes, but we had mana burn to counter this. Then mana burn was nerfed from 13% down to 10% and resilience reduces mana burns by 30%. And mana burn was changed to break fear which is our only CC.

    It's been nothing but nerfs, nerfs, and more nerfs for priests since I started playing.

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    In PVE you have intellect, spirit, and mp5 buffs. You also have replenishment. And in a PVE spec you can afford to put talent points into mana cost reductions, in PVP specs you have to focus on more defense oriented abilities. There are also glyphs that help, but PVE and PVP use entirely different glyphs.

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    It's just so frustrating that I steamroll to 2300-2400, then I hit a block and I just get fucked left and right by everyone.

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    its WoW old story a class gets nerfed and people jumps ship or endures and endures and endures, class gets a buff, then another nerf.

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    If I beat anyone, they got outplayed.

    If anybody beats me, they're overpowered.

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    Well part of the issue is Resilience is just a band-aid on a larger problem. That problem being that Blizzard keeps trying to mix PvE with PvP using the same rules/abilities/what have you, but they're a world apart. There needs to be a clear cut differentiation, almost to the point where they redefine the abilities entirely based on mode. They applied Resilience and then didn't have the forethought about as PvE continues to progress and better shit becomes available, how that is going to impact the PvP fold.

    Also, nerfs to PvP shit end up affecting PvE as well. The new Warbringer nerf along with possible Shield Slam adjustment for Prot Warriors comes to mind. Drives me fucking nuts.

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    ^ so true.

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    Low damage, high threat is how tanks should be in the first place.

    The warbringer nerf is unnecessary, as usual Blizz is ignoring the real problem and fucking with irrelevant shit.

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    That's how it used to be, but then they made threat and rage generation more dependent on a tank's damage output. Back in the day, Discipline got shit on because PW:S on the tank was a huge no-no.

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    Model viewer got implemented on armory today, look how boss I am

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...=Ursin&n=Kryye

    Except it doesn't show the big ass blue fire coming off my shoulders

    I finally got full Relentless today, but I can't log on and equip my helm because I told my arena partners I was going to sleep

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    a) Alliance (wasnt j00 hord?)
    b) Nelf (lol srsly?)
    c) Epic fail guild name
    d) still thinking about it

    Result: Glad your class is fucked.

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    A) I have an item that makes me look horde
    B) Green hair
    C) Only the best
    D) Jealousy

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