Moghancements: Difference between "Nation Conq" and "Conq"?

[The Stig]

Couldn't fit it all into the subject, but with your nation flag you can get "(Nation) Conquest" as an enhancement, with an Imperial Standard (prize from ToAU, just incase) you get "Conquest" only.

Is there a difference between them? The Nation one, Wikia states that you must be that nation only, and will get 16% instead of 10% points of your EXP. On the Conquest one only, it just states you get more from killing Easy Prey or higher.

Has anyone tested it? I'm unable to get "Conquest" without completely screwing up my mog house and I have too much shit already

[Auspice]

I can't attest to Conquest being more than national Conquest but I know that the elemental strength doesn't matter at all. I've got a FULLY furnished Mog House(50+ pieces of furniture) and I still have Moghancement: Sandy Conquest; the trick is balancing your elemental strengths. Sadly you'll have to ditch your Imperial Standard for the national conquest moghancement to pop up since they both share the same strength and will cancel each other out. All you need after that are a few pieces of elemental furniture with decent strength. If you're from Sandy I recommend bookshelves(Royal bookshelves work well for Windy!, not sure about Bastok since I never cared to get the moghancment while I lived there). I only had to put two bookshelves in my MH to get it to shift to fire element for the Sandy conquest to pop up.

[The Stig]

Ah thanks for the info.

I do currently have the Nation Conquest one, but for some reason (as placebo as it may seem) I think the "Conquest" itself will yield my Imperial Standing as well as Conquest Points. But then again ... Conquest does only apply to the original locations I suppose ...

[Auspice]

Ah thanks for the info.

I do currently have the Nation Conquest one, but for some reason (as placebo as it may seem) I think the "Conquest" itself will yield my Imperial Standing as well as Conquest Points. But then again ... Conquest does only apply to the original locations I suppose ...

I've wondered that myself since it seems retarded that the TAU flag would improve Conquest. lol

[Bardlet]

Here's kind of a silly question.

I went to Rank 10 in bastok, hung my flag and have Moghancement: Bastok Conquest. Then I swapped to Windy, but never bothered to change my Moghancement. Am I right in assuming it does nothing now, or am I magically helping Bastok (which is lol, because they're perpetually in 3rd place these days again)?

[Auspice]

Here's kind of a silly question.

I went to Rank 10 in bastok, hung my flag and have Moghancement: Bastok Conquest. Then I swapped to Windy, but never bothered to change my Moghancement. Am I right in assuming it does nothing now, or am I magically helping Bastok (which is lol, because they're perpetually in 3rd place these days again)?

Probably does nothing since getting signet gives you signet for your nation so you're not getting any points for your old nation to begin with.

[Apollyon]

Moghancement: Nation Conquest and Conquest are the exact same boost to CP gain.

Both have NO effect on IS gain.

The only difference is Nation Conquest only works if you're earning CP for the specific nation, Conquest works no matter who your allegiance is with.

Scenarios:

Moghancement: Other -- CP equal to 10% of XP earned
Moghancement: Windurst Conquest - Citizen -- CP equal to 16% of XP earned
Moghancement: Windurst Conquest - / Citizen -- CP equal to 10% of XP earned
Moghancement: Conquest - / / -- CP equal to 16% of XP earned



I just keep mine on Moghancement: XP full time >.> But I have personally tested the IS gain (stupid Imperial Standard...)

[orson]

That's pretty retarded they really should have made the flag give bonus IS.

[The Stig]

Moghancement: Nation Conquest and Conquest are the exact same boost to CP gain.

Both have NO effect on IS gain.

The only difference is Nation Conquest only works if you're earning CP for the specific nation, Conquest works no matter who your allegiance is with.

Scenarios:

Moghancement: Other -- CP equal to 10% of XP earned
Moghancement: Windurst Conquest - Citizen -- CP equal to 16% of XP earned
Moghancement: Windurst Conquest - / Citizen -- CP equal to 10% of XP earned
Moghancement: Conquest - / / -- CP equal to 16% of XP earned



I just keep mine on Moghancement: XP full time >.> But I have personally tested the IS gain (stupid Imperial Standard...)

Many thanks for the information.

[rath]

Moghancement: Nation Conquest and Conquest are the exact same boost to CP gain.

Both have NO effect on IS gain.

The only difference is Nation Conquest only works if you're earning CP for the specific nation, Conquest works no matter who your allegiance is with.

Scenarios:

Moghancement: Other -- CP equal to 10% of XP earned
Moghancement: Windurst Conquest - Citizen -- CP equal to 16% of XP earned
Moghancement: Windurst Conquest - / Citizen -- CP equal to 10% of XP earned
Moghancement: Conquest - / / -- CP equal to 16% of XP earned



I just keep mine on Moghancement: XP full time >.> But I have personally tested the IS gain (stupid Imperial Standard...)

Many thanks for the information.

I have to disagree with this not working on ISP. I am getting 345 XP for imps and 37 ISP with moghancement:conquest.

[Apollyon]

Moghancement: Nation Conquest and Conquest are the exact same boost to CP gain.

Both have NO effect on IS gain.

The only difference is Nation Conquest only works if you're earning CP for the specific nation, Conquest works no matter who your allegiance is with.

Scenarios:

Moghancement: Other -- CP equal to 10% of XP earned
Moghancement: Windurst Conquest - Citizen -- CP equal to 16% of XP earned
Moghancement: Windurst Conquest - / Citizen -- CP equal to 10% of XP earned
Moghancement: Conquest - / / -- CP equal to 16% of XP earned



I just keep mine on Moghancement: XP full time >.> But I have personally tested the IS gain (stupid Imperial Standard...)

Many thanks for the information.

I have to disagree with this not working on ISP. I am getting 345 XP for imps and 37 ISP with moghancement:conquest.

It's possible that they have ninja-fixed this since the flags were released, I did the testing shortly after I got my flag the update it was released. I'd be glad to be proven wrong!

[Spekkio]

Moghancement: Nation Conquest and Conquest are the exact same boost to CP gain.

Both have NO effect on IS gain.

The only difference is Nation Conquest only works if you're earning CP for the specific nation, Conquest works no matter who your allegiance is with.

Scenarios:

Moghancement: Other -- CP equal to 10% of XP earned
Moghancement: Windurst Conquest - Citizen -- CP equal to 16% of XP earned
Moghancement: Windurst Conquest - / Citizen -- CP equal to 10% of XP earned
Moghancement: Conquest - / / -- CP equal to 16% of XP earned



I just keep mine on Moghancement: XP full time >.> But I have personally tested the IS gain (stupid Imperial Standard...)

Many thanks for the information.

I have to disagree with this not working on ISP. I am getting 345 XP for imps and 37 ISP with moghancement:conquest.

It's possible that they have ninja-fixed this since the flags were released, I did the testing shortly after I got my flag the update it was released. I'd be glad to be proven wrong!

i can back it up that as of a couple months ago or so it did not work on IS. just got 35 marduk body and don't have cash to buy khroma, so i figure i'll use these little dolly thingies to make moghancement conquest from the flag and see if it helps my IS to do more ISNM. no dice.