Please explain benefits of Blitz ring / haste

[Todd F]

I've looked for an answer and was unable to find a concise explanation of Blitz ring and haste.

I'd like to know how it would benefit THF (dual wield).

I'm not clear on how haste works. Also, I'd like to know what the haste cap is, and how that works. Any answers are appreciated, and an example with some math would be nice!

Thanks again,

[Raen Ryong]

Blitz Ring Rare
[Finger] All Races
Haste+1%
LV 39 WAR PLD DRK BST DRG

So it doesn't affect THF very much

As far as Haste goes, Kirschy could offer you a better explanation, but gear caps at roughly 25% (need 26% to -cap- though since it's slightly above 25%), magic haste (Haste spell, march song, Haste Belt enchantment etc) caps at 43.3% and job ability haste (Hasso, Desperate Blows etc) caps at 25%. There is an overall cap of 80% which cannot be exceeded.

Dual Wield delay reduction is a form of delay reduction which works separate to Haste, and is calculated first and then Haste acts on that, I believe. I am not 100% sure on this last point but the rest of the post I am sure on.

[Jotaru]

Short answer, haste lowers attack speed / recast time by the % listed... additionally, its additive, which is what makes it so good.

If you have a 100 second recast song, with 5% haste, you're cutting off 5 seconds... making it 5% faster recast (makes sense, right?) Attack speed is similar.

Equipment cap is 25%; magic cap is 43.75, JA cap is 25% (but only affects attack speed, not spell recast). Spell recast is capped at 50% of normal, and combined haste is capped at ~80%

1% haste on its own isn't that grand, but the more you have, the better it gets. With 50% haste, you attack twice as fast. With 66% haste, you attack three times as fast; in other words, the first 50% haste gives you the same as just 16% after it.

Haste (Status Effect - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki)

All you need to know about Haste, right thurr.

[pchan]

I'd like to know how it would benefit THF (dual wield).

The primary benefit for you would be lowering delay, just like what dual wield do (-10% delay IIRC). "Haste x%" reduces the delay by x%. It caps at 25%. The difference with -25% delay and normal delay is that you do 33% more hits within the same period of time (1.33=1/(1-0.25)). "Stacking" haste equip with spells like "haste" and march has increasing returns. With 50% haste you double your damage (+100% hits).

[Avarice]

To each his own, but I personally find Blitz Ring to be useless unless you're going all-out on Haste. If you're not putting Haste in other slots don't bother with it.

[Raen Ryong]

It is useless unless you do that really. DRK zerg is its forte.

[Jingseng]

imho, itty bits of haste in random slots are not worth it... not until you break at least 10% overall. But that's purely my opinion.

Just to clarify for Op (since it seems like OP might not know, and first answer was slightly ambiguous about it): JA recast timers are not reduced by haste.

[VZX]

And I doubt 6/1024 haste is more beneficial than HP ring :/

[Cloudius]

And I doubt 6/1024 haste is more beneficial than HP ring :/

If you're talking about DRK zerg, at 1600+ HP Blitz is better than BB ring (Unless you can get 26% gear haste without it).

[VZX]

If you're talking about DRK zerg, at 1600+ HP Blitz is better than BB ring (Unless you can get 26% gear haste without it).

Care to explain this how?
I think it could be possible if the haste cap was still at 93.75%, but not when it's 80%.

[Cloudius]

The Blitz vs BB ring questions came up on KI drk forum a while back, and I ran some numbers for him. It turned out the higher HP you have the the better to stack haste over HP. Ran a lil more numbers to try and pin point the magical number for HP and it turned out at around 1600HP having 68.3% haste(max for 1H weapon) is better than having 67.3% and +50HP.

I'm tired and going to bed now, if you're interested I'll post more on it tomorrow.

[astura]

Well technically it is possible to get almost 80% haste cap with 1H weapons.
haste samba with 5/5 merits (10% ja haste)
43.3% magic haste
gear (with /drg earring and shield)
1 shield 5 head 4 ear 1 ring 4 hand 6 waist 3 legs 3 feet (27% so could shield or ring)
so 25% cap there.

25+43.3+10=78.3%
*would make KC a .95 delay (or .9 sec delay) and kriss .69 (or .6 sec delay)*

[Nameless]

but haste samba doesn't stack with bloodweapon, I think someone has mentioned that somewhere before, but I am not sure of.

[astura]

probably true scene anything overrides it

[Tulun]

1600+ HP should be absolutely easy to obtain, as well, especially with using Drain II.

So, in other words, Blitz ring wins

For non-zerg situations with jobs that can use it; it'll get murkier, but will 5-7 acc trump 1 haste on TP build?
It's sort of similar going from Turban to Ace's helm. So, it'll depend on your acc removing the Snipers / woodsman (etc...). 85-90 hit rate, it'd be a toss up (which shouldn't be hard to do, especially for DRKs or DRGs or WARs) I'd probably always go for the blitz, but 90+ I'd probably just use the Blitz ring.

[Raen Ryong]

5-7acc will slaughter 1haste unless accuracy is capped, generally speaking.

[Tubbers]

Feint

[tonystigma]

Feint

He said non-zerg situations (TP build).

[Tubbers]

He said non-zerg situations (TP build).

OP said he's a THF.

[richardd]

blitz ring is worth it in those high haste situations (talking 23+ %) but if you /mnk or /nin it with around 17~19% haste, that 1 haste isnt going to make or break you. I like to use the bloodbead in those cases.