if you wanna be a feminist man, you can't like women

**Kuya** · 2011-07-20 10:52

So I once knew a guy who would come to all of the feminist rallies. He would hold signs and do the chanting. He would denounce anti-choice policies and support all of the awareness events is support of ending violence against women. But every time he’d open his damn laptop there would be a new desktop background of some conventionally attractive, usually white, thin, barely-clothed woman. Sometimes she was lucky enough to pose near a car, other times she was just lying seductively on a black void of a background – come hither, vessel of male-projected desire expression planted firmly on her airbrushed face.

When men have stated a commitment to feminism, they need to go all in. This means thinking critically about themselves, their interests, and the media they consume.This is what I like to call the “Sure I’m a feminist, I love women” mentality – and a lot of progressive men have it. What these men don’t understand is that a love of women is not always the same thing as a dedication to their equal social status. It is similar to the “I’m not racist, I have a black friend” mantra. When men have stated a commitment to feminism, they need to go all in. This means thinking critically about themselves, their interests, and the media they consume. How does the media that they consume portray marginalized people? If it’s the same patriarchal narrative over and over again, men need to consider addressing that. At the very least, they must come to terms with their interest in possibly harmful media, and if another feminist calls them out on it they need to be willing and able to defend themselves without demeaning that person.

thanks for giving me that link skirkle

**Kuya** · 2011-07-20 10:54

She's saying, or it looks like she's saying that if you don't go full into feminism, then you, what? shouldn't call yourself a feminist? I don't care about that, but it guys can't be fully feminist, it's at least good that they support equality and abortion, etc. It doesn't mean that he suddenly has to agree with everything that feminism says. Or agree with everything uptight cunts like her say.

**Krye** · 2011-07-20 10:56

Rofl Skirk is trying to come up with political reasons for his love of cock

**Rocl** · 2011-07-20 10:57

bitch needs a good dicking

**Kuya** · 2011-07-20 11:08

One of the main tenets of legitimate male feminism is the ability and willingness to take a long, hard look at yourself and the way you interact with the world and with folks who are marginalized within it. That requires a lot of listening – most often a lot of listening to how much people like you suck. Dudes who take all of that personally will never make the grade when it comes to feminism.

Yea don't take me generalizing and demonizing you personally bro

**solanis** · 2011-07-20 11:32

Originally Posted by Kuya

Yea don't take me generalizing and demonizing you personally bro

they call it "schrodinger's rapist"

When you approach me in public, you are Schrödinger’s Rapist. You may or may not be a man who would commit rape. I won’t know for sure unless you start sexually assaulting me. I can’t see inside your head, and I don’t know your intentions. If you expect me to trust you—to accept you at face value as a nice sort of guy—you are not only failing to respect my reasonable caution, you are being cavalier about my personal safety.

http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/gu...t-being-maced/

destroy all straight men, save the world

**Rocl** · 2011-07-20 11:44

boooooooooooooooooooooooring

**Kuya** · 2011-07-20 12:09

Originally Posted by solanis

they call it "schrodinger's rapist"

http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/gu...t-being-maced/

destroy all straight men, save the world

man, i feel sorry for straight men sometimes

**Conrad** · 2011-07-20 12:26

Eh I support gender equality, but like I wrote in the other thread, a lot of that article can change "woman" to "person" and it'll be a "Don't Be An Asshole" guide. I know plenty of sex-positive feminists that would disagree with the sentiment in your first quoted part.

**Lucienne** · 2011-07-20 12:48

I'm not sure what made you think feminism was about liking women in the first place.
Feminism has always been about denying traditionally feminine characters. Women won't be free and equal till we've all turned into men.

**Ksandra** · 2011-07-20 13:09

Originally Posted by Lucienne

I'm not sure what made you think feminism was about liking women in the first place.
Feminism has always been about denying traditionally feminine characters. Women won't be free and equal till we've all turned into men.

I finally want to rape you.

**Ksandra** · 2011-07-20 13:10

also, rocl you are the best gay, you just don't know it yet

**Ksandra** · 2011-07-20 13:10

kuya you are only not the best gay because

**Ksandra** · 2011-07-20 13:10

politics

**Rocl** · 2011-07-20 13:10

considering my competition here, i know

**Mertron** · 2011-07-20 13:14

i love to singa

**Ksandra** · 2011-07-20 13:17

Originally Posted by Rocl

considering my competition here, i know

that's true, I would have to meet your irl to compare you to my irl gay friends

**Ksandra** · 2011-07-20 13:20

I am only friends with them so I don't become a homophobe

**Rocl** · 2011-07-20 13:20

i'm not a queen gay guys stop forcing stereotypes on me and expecting me to limp wrist all over you with a heavy lisp

**Ksandra** · 2011-07-20 13:28

Originally Posted by Rocl

i'm not a queen gay guys stop forcing stereotypes on me and expecting me to limp wrist all over you with a heavy lisp

I will get you in a scarf and a fedora if you'd just let me work with you!

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