Way to Go Texas(seriously!)

**Brill Weave** · 2012-06-20 17:32

http://now.msn.com/now/0619-dad-kill...ed?vt_fbmsnnow

Cops won't charge dad who killed his daughter's abuser

Opinions were sharply divided about what should happen to the dad from Shiner, Texas, who used his bare hands to beat to death a man he reportedly caught sexually assaulting his 5-year-old daughter. Now police have announced their verdict: The father won't be charged. "He was just protecting his daughter and doing what he thought he had to do to protect his daughter," said Sheriff Micah Harmon from the Lavaca County Sheriff's Office, adding that he believes the father is remorseful for his actions. Harmon concluded that the incident had been "traumatizing" for the girl and her family -- something everyone is sure to agree on.

Right on.

**Cleverness** · 2012-06-20 17:37

Came in here expecting silly redneck mischief, instead found justice being served.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...84/922/0e3.png

**Patriarch** · 2012-06-20 17:40

Terrible for his little girl

But good job by the father

inc Obama/DoJ coming after this guy

**Churchill** · 2012-06-20 18:20

Yeah good job Texas.

Wasn't the response you were expecting was it

**Hiryo** · 2012-06-20 18:24

Wonder what allotment of time makes ore breaks your verdict. For example:
1) Dad kills man while performing the act.
2) Dad kills man shortly after, perhaps a small distance away.
3) Dad kills the man the next day after find infallible evidence it happened.
4) Etc

**RKenshin** · 2012-06-20 18:28

I think the whole 'actively protecting your kid from harm' defense loses steam quickly once past catching it as it's happening or about to happen.

But, then again, I wouldn't be surprised if it was still hard to prosecute someone even minutes/hours/days/weeks after the act.

**Churchill** · 2012-06-20 18:29

Almost any time it happens during #1 you get away with it.

**Yugl** · 2012-06-20 19:18

Originally Posted by Churchill

Yeah good job Texas.

Wasn't the response you were expecting was it

Not really surprised by this actually.

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-06-20 19:56

He demonstrated remorse during the call and said he was afraid the guy was dying when talking to a dispatcher, etc. It was obviously an accident that the guy died and he was defending his daughter, so he gets a pass.

**Rhyis.** · 2012-06-20 20:51

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**BaneTheBrawler** · 2012-06-20 21:09

Yeh this was posted in the Wop Headline thread too. I'm fine with it. Sounds like it wasn't intentional.

**Tajin** · 2012-06-20 21:16

Originally Posted by Hiryo

Wonder what allotment of time makes ore breaks your verdict. For example:
1) Dad kills man while performing the act.
2) Dad kills man shortly after, perhaps a small distance away.
3) Dad kills the man the next day after find infallible evidence it happened.
4) Etc

Who you gonna call? Agent Graves of course (100 Bullets)

**Kellanved** · 2012-06-20 22:19

Texas Penal code section 9.32(a) and 9.33 addresses this. Section 9.32(b)(1)(C) being directly on point as to reasonability.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.u...E/htm/PE.9.htm

The father could have shot the guy and it’ll probably have been OK. Byrth is that sarcasm I detect? Also the father’s intent would not be relevant. “Deadly force” somewhat presumes intent to kill.

**Kurokikaze** · 2012-06-20 22:31

Was not expecting that. I'm ok with this.

**hey** · 2012-06-20 23:03

Way to go Texas? I'm pretty sure the same thing would happen anywhere, considering there's nothing illegal about what he did. He was protecting someone. Why does Texas get deserve a pat on the back for not charging someone with a crime, when they deserve a medal?

Also, this was already posted.

**Irohuro** · 2012-06-20 23:08

Because Texas is full of ass-backwards bible thumpers. The expected response would've been death sentence with christians shouting "She was probably a little whore who was asking for it! How dare he interfere with god's will!"

**hey** · 2012-06-20 23:37

The expected response would've been death sentence with christians shouting "She was probably a little whore who was asking for it! How dare he interfere with god's will!"

In Texas? Maybe you're thinking of Alabama?

**Irohuro** · 2012-06-20 23:47

They all blur together.

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2012-06-20 23:56

Texas is the "Kill anyone who might be a criminal" state.

**Brill Weave** · 2012-06-21 07:19

More on the story.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...GlvbnM-;_ylv=3

A grand jury in Texas has decided not to indict a father who beat to death a man he found allegedly sexually abusing his young daughter.

"Under the law, deadly force is justified to stop a sexual assault," Lavaca County District Attorney Heather McMinn said on Tuesday at a press conference announcing the grand jury's decision. "All the evidence presented by the sheriff's department and the Texas Rangers indicated that was in fact what was occurring when the victim's father arrived at the scene."

McMinn added: "The substantial amount of evidence showed that the witness statements and the father's statement and what the father had observed was in fact what had happened that day."

Jesus Mora Flores was beaten to death on June 9 in Shiner, Texas, after the 23-year-old father allegedly discovered the 47-year-old Flores in a pasture on the family's ranch on top of his 5-year-old daughter with his pants and underwear down. (News organizations, including Yahoo News, are not naming the father in order to protect the identity of his daughter.)

A witness who saw Flores—a Mexican who legally worked at the ranch—"forcibly carrying" the girl into a secluded area of the property alerted the father, who followed his daughter's screams to the pasture, pulled Flores off her, and "inflicted several blows to the man's head and neck area."

After beating Flores, the father called 911.

"I need an ambulance," the father told the dispatcher, according to 911 tapes released by police. "This guy was raping my daughter and I beat him up and I don't know what to do. This guy is fixing to die on me, man, and I don't know what to do."

"Come on! This guy is going to die on me!" he continued during the frantic, five-minute call. "I don't know what to do!"

Emergency workers, as well as the daughter's grandfather and aunt, tried to revive Flores but could not. Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon said he found the distraught father crying, saying that he had not intended to kill Flores.

"He's a peaceable soul," V'Anne Huser, the father's attorney, said. "He had no intention to kill anybody that day."

The case has sparked a debate about whether the killing was justified.

"There are those ... who feel that as abominable as the actions of Flores were, he did not deserve a death sentence delivered through vigilante justice," Diane Fanning wrote on Forbes.com. "If I found a half-naked man on top of my 5-year-old daughter, I might not have the strength to kill him. But I do know I would jump on his back and try to rip his eyes right out of his head."

A Time magazine reader even suggested "lifetime free passes to Disneyland" should be awarded to the father for protecting his child: "Touch a kid. Die. Done."

Local residents in Shiner—which has a population of about 2,000—supported the father, too.

"I think it was a good decision," Lamont Matthews told the Victoria (Texas) Advocate. "I would have done the same thing."

"The father has gone through enough," Gail Allen, another resident, told The Associated Press. "The little girl is going to be traumatized for life, and the father, too, for what happened. He was protecting his family. Any parent would do that."

"It's sad a man had to die," Michael James Veit said. "But I think anybody would have done that."

"In our opinion," Huser said Tuesday, "the story is over."

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