The end of civilization?

[merper]

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net

It's kinda long, but interesting. I have some stuff to add about it, but I'll see what other people think first. Entertain me @ work, pleaseee.

[Not Kuno]

Read about this ages ago on Exit Mundi.

[merper]

Most of our(U.S.0 electricity doesn't come from oil. I think only 3-6% is oil. 20% natural gas,20% nuclear, 15% hydro, and about 39-42% is coal, which we have a buttload(around 200 years worth at our current consumption rate in the US) of. Also, it's not like we quit cold turkey, not like 1 day oil, next no oil. That 2nd article distorts a lot more facts than the one I posted.

[Not Kuno]

Well it was made a while ago so some things might not be upto date. Your article is alot longer and said pretty much the same things. ;o But yeah oil peak bad were all gonna be broke lets find an alternative etc. I think Nuclear energy is looking good.

[Avvesione]

We'll find a new way to power our enegry. Haven't you ever seen the Jetsons?

[Sidd]

We'll find a new way to power our enegry. Haven't you ever seen the Jetsons?

mirtha slaves working in cages sound like a better alternative to me. use the energy from the gamers constant fapping to power the world.

[blud]

Canada has over 100billion barrels of oil trapped in sand, I saw it on 60 minutes once, it would last for 100+ years something like that.

Anyone up for raiding Canada?

[merper]

It's not about how much there is, it's about how fast you can get it out and how much energy you need to get some out. So lets say to get 1 Barrel out you need to spend .5 barrels worth of energy to get it out, then you only get .5 barrel net energy gain. In reality it's more like a 1.2:1 ratio rather than a 2:1 for energy recovered over energy invested, so although there are an estimated 3 trillion barrels of oil in tar sands left, there's a net gain of only 500billion.

We use 30 Billion barels worldwide each year so 500/30=16.67 years.

Which would be nice except that we currently get only .6 million barrels from tar sands/day and that number is at max gonna hit 2-3 million in 10 years with lots of money put into it. However to keep the world running it takes 75 million barrels/day. It's about production rate, not how much of it there is left, something I agree about with the guy who wrote the article.