Mercurial Kris for Souleater

[Tulun]

Has anyone tested Parse damage with Merc Kris? It seems like a cheap stepping stone until you can farm a K-club (or somehow afford to buy one ^^).

Just wondering how successful it is vs K-club (Obvious Club is better ).

Wondering if it's worth the investment. 5 million gil on my server, even in this economy

[tornfleshofsoul]

One of our LS DRKs used Ridill/Merc before he got K.club. We did Omega with it, he took Omega down a good 25-30% with his 2hr. Seemed to work well.

[Ichthyos]

DRK dagger is C, club is C-. Accuracy is about the same.

If we assume the dagger averages 2 swings per round and the club averages 4.5 swings per round, then...

2 / 4.5 * 264 / 192 = 0.6111

You'll be doing around 60% the damage of a Kraken Club, all else equal.

[Tulun]

One of our LS DRKs used Ridill/Merc before he got K.club. We did Omega with it, he took Omega down a good 25-30% with his 2hr. Seemed to work well.

Cool I don't have Ridill sadly, so it would just be the Kris.

[Tulun]

DRK dagger is C, club is C-. Accuracy is about the same.

If we assume the dagger averages 2 swings per round and the club averages 4.5 swings per round, then...

2 / 4.5 * 264 / 192 = 0.6111

You'll be doing around 60% the damage of a Kraken Club, all else equal.

Hmm... Would the parsed numbers at 60% be remotely worth it, assuming this value is correct?

[Ceiyne]

I'm interested to see what people think of this. KC is not something I'll be able to afford any time soon, but I could afford a Mercurial Kris.

While we're kinda on the topic, what do people think of Mercurial Kris as an offhand weapon for THF in merit parties? Can the extra swings and WSes make up for the low damage?

[Robert]

One of our LS DRKs used Ridill/Merc before he got K.club. We did Omega with it, he took Omega down a good 25-30% with his 2hr. Seemed to work well.

Cool I don't have Ridill sadly, so it would just be the Kris.

I don't think he means dualwielded, at least I hope not since it would just slow the kris down..but yea a lot of our drks use mkris or ridill since we only have 2 clubs, it still works really well

[tornfleshofsoul]

It was Dual Wield'd, it may have slowed it down, but hell, it still did amazing damage.

[orinthia]

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My dmg with almost 2000hp and a merc kris. Zozma has a ridill but is taru without an hp gear set for this one. Scot and Microdot are using axes and SE+rampage. They all did pretty well but this result kind of floored us lol. (note there's a lot of other melee here but zoz had outside stuff filtered)

<3 merc kris. Get some hp/homam/haste gears, hp food, haste spell, marchx2 or 2hr march/mad, have a thf land feint and you'll hit anything stupidly fast for a crapton of dmg.

It's not as powerful as klub but it comes close.

[Secksi]

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My dmg with almost 2000hp and a merc kris. Zozma has a ridill but is taru without an hp gear set for this one. Scot and Microdot are using axes and SE+rampage. They all did pretty well but this result kind of floored us lol. (note there's a lot of other melee here but zoz had outside stuff filtered)

<3 merc kris. Get some hp/homam/haste gears, hp food, haste spell, marchx2 or 2hr march/mad, have a thf land feint and you'll hit anything stupidly fast for a crapton of dmg.

It's not as powerful as klub but it comes close. Try dual wielding two of these lol...

It's rare....

[orinthia]

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My dmg with almost 2000hp and a merc kris. Zozma has a ridill but is taru without an hp gear set for this one. Scot and Microdot are using axes and SE+rampage. They all did pretty well but this result kind of floored us lol. (note there's a lot of other melee here but zoz had outside stuff filtered)

<3 merc kris. Get some hp/homam/haste gears, hp food, haste spell, marchx2 or 2hr march/mad, have a thf land feint and you'll hit anything stupidly fast for a crapton of dmg.

It's not as powerful as klub but it comes close. Try dual wielding two of these lol...

It's rare....

Crap you're right... damn, I thought it didn't have the little thing on it. Oh well, shows how much I noticed things when I had it a whole four minutes for that thing thar. /facepalm

[Ichthyos]

Hmm... Would the parsed numbers at 60% be remotely worth it, assuming this value is correct?

Sure, if you plan to bring DRK to a lot of events and already have or are building an hp gear set. It's a decent alternative for KC while you spam the BCNM to get a club imho. Just depends on how much gil you have and what other things are on your wish list I guess.

And comparing it to other potential weapons...
- Ridill would be expected to do 192/236 ~= 80% of a Merc Kris's damage if accuracy is equal. DRK sword caps 15 points higher than dagger though, so perhaps you'd be able to swap in more HP gear instead of acc.
- Fortitude Axe would be expected to do 1.5 / 2 * 192 / 504 ~= 30% of a Merc Kris's damage if accuracy is equal. Again, since DRK GA caps higher than dagger, you could potentially use more HP gear.
- Bastokan Dagger (lowest delay that DRK can equip according to somepage) would be expected to do 1 / 2 * 192 / 173 ~= 55% of a Merc Kris's damage.

[Tulun]

Hmm... Would the parsed numbers at 60% be remotely worth it, assuming this value is correct?

Sure, if you plan to bring DRK to a lot of events and already have or are building an hp gear set. It's a decent alternative for KC while you spam the BCNM to get a club imho. Just depends on how much gil you have and what other things are on your wish list I guess.

And comparing it to other potential weapons...
- Ridill would be expected to do 192/236 ~= 80% of a Merc Kris's damage if accuracy is equal. DRK sword caps 15 points higher than dagger though, so perhaps you'd be able to swap in more HP gear instead of acc.
- Fortitude Axe would be expected to do 1.5 / 2 * 192 / 504 ~= 30% of a Merc Kris's damage if accuracy is equal. Again, since DRK GA caps higher than dagger, you could potentially use more HP gear.
- Bastokan Dagger (lowest delay that DRK can equip according to somepage) would be expected to do 1 / 2 * 192 / 173 ~= 55% of a Merc Kris's damage.

I have 4/5 Homam as it stands (only legs to go ), and I only have 2 jobs to 75: Sadly the other is SMN (darn it lol) but I do come to events as DRK often, though DRK is definately my main job, and the one I love ^^

I also spam the Up In Arms BCNM whenever I can, it's just damn stingy >.>

Thanks everyone for the info, I am liking what I'm hearing about this dagger. It got brought up to me yesterday. I don't think I'll have a good shot at Ridill anytime soon, primarily because we have Wars that need it first.

Other than Homam, I don't have massive HP gear (such as Cassie or Gigant Mantle). I've been considering looking into these pieces, but it seems like the zerg gear has some situational aspects to it (such as... what songs bards are using, is feint on... etc )

[Therin]

Merc. Kris is definitely the second strongest for DPS (next to Kraken) in the time you'll have SE + BW open. It's definitely worth it. If I didn't have access to a Kraken, I'd go for it. You should, too.

[Tulun]

Just got a Kris today >.> Time to see what this thing can do...