Stupid Besieged Tricks

[Kyomu]

Can anyone give me an idea why, when Besieged comes around, a shitton of JP players go out and destroy the mirrors so it takes about 5 hours for the Besieged to finally go off? They seem so proud of themselves for doing it when it finally gets there too. Is there some important thing I'm missing other than wasting a huge amount of time?

[Lishje]

Doesn't it weaken the mobs severely? >.>

[evilpaul]

The JP on Hades obviously don't do that very much. I'm not entirely sure what killing Mirrors does after they're already marching though. I haven't attacked one one purpose since the truesight, partied mirror guards were added.

[Undeadhunter]

hades ftw ... I think we only loose in JP high time because most of them dont care lol

also wth @ Siren .. winning everything lol

[Suiram]

I don't know, since the last version update we had lvl 8, lost the 3rd, got back to lvl 8, lost after a couple, then lost a lvl 5, then lost to our first 200-strength 8. Now people kill mirrors as they are preparing and we haven't lost in a dozen level 8s, even in EU time which used to spell autofail at anything above a level 4, so I'm not about to complain. Just know that when the forces are going to go to 200, "Level 5 Preparing" means "Besieged in 2 hours" and be grateful there are people who care enough to go kill the mirrors so you keep your 15% exp bonus.

[spooky]

Wouldn't it be more efficient to just let them take the AC and then get it back with 1 party of 6 people? :P

[Damane]

Wouldn't it be more efficient to just let them take the mirror and then get it back with 1 party of 6 people?

if you want to walk to through caederva to get the mirror back sure. (besides the fact that the bonuses are reduced when you get it back and that some days have to pass until you get lets say refresh-bonus at 75% of your MP)

[Ein]

on my server, JP will kill mirrors if it will likely pushed besieged into JP time, so you don't have an army of retards weilding warp cudgels piling on to golul ja ja. so far it has been working since they have started doing it regularly.

[Lyramion]

If your server doesnt lose besieged you have lower khroma ore price - discuss

[Lawliet]

Wtf @ Siren. Wow.

[Kyreth]

Anything that keeps fights from being epic deathfests (Ragnarok, Undead Swarm, last night- you're on notice) isn't stupid, it's sanity.

Gank the mirrors = weaker beastmen = no lose hefty Sanction bonuses with the AC. The longer the win streak, the better my autorefresh works. So keep smashing. I got back from an Assault run yesterday to find an 8-mirror level-8 Swarm hitting Al Zahbi, and that was without any summoned HNM. And it took frickin' forever.

[Carnusty]

Kinda wish people would do that here, we constantly sit at 8 mirrors for each beastmen nation...everyone on Kujata's lazy XD...

Usually the only time I see mirrors destroyed is when I'm doing some odd quest in one of those areas and I notice it, lol;

[Osede]

althought there aren't any proof, but there got few times when somebody is breaking the mirrow during lvl 8 in ragnarok, at least I'm notice the minor mobs are easier (or faster?) to kill even thought there are like 500ppl in the zone only.

or maybe only that time there are any noobs that focuing on whatever NMs and leave out those minor mobs...

[Amele]

If your server doesnt lose besieged you have lower khroma ore price - discuss

their populations are too busy doing besieged and not making with the 3/3 body salvage sets?

and hades sucks at besieged. for a long time we were neck and neck with midgard for having the 'losingest' record. (and were almost always one of the first three servers to lose each time a new level came out.)

[Lyramion]

If your server doesnt lose besieged you have lower khroma ore price - discuss

their populations are too busy doing besieged and not making with the 3/3 body salvage sets?

and hades sucks at besieged. for a long time we were neck and neck with midgard for having the 'losingest' record. (and were almost always one of the first three servers to lose each time a new level came out.)

I noticed quite some fluctuation in releation to 6+ besieged and khroma ore price. People have more IS to do ISNMs.

[Amele]

if you're going to draw -any- connection between candescence and khroma ore, I'd say it has more to do with relative ease of access to mount zhayolm for mining.

of course, this is because I know almost no one on hades that actually bothers to ISNM regularly; YMMV depending on server.

I had been making a largely facetious post, however.

[Lyramion]

JP are shouting for ISNMs all day on Carbuncle

[Hanyoko]

I miss the days when mirrors lacked guards.

Hopefully this will change when WoTG comes out and people loose interest in the near east.

[Gwynplaine]

The number of archaic mirrors in a beastman stronghold now has an effect on the enemy's defense during Besieged.

From here: http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff ... etail.html

If players are actively breaking the mirrors it's probably a good thing. No reason to be upset because you're bad at estimating a besieged starting time.

[Jer]

Kinda wish people would do that here, we constantly sit at 8 mirrors for each beastmen nation...everyone on Kujata's lazy XD...

Usually the only time I see mirrors destroyed is when I'm doing some odd quest in one of those areas and I notice it, lol;

How fast do they regenerate normally? I used to kill the one closest to the zone in Mamook for IS points, but it seemed it would be back in less than an hour.