10th Dimension Explained?

[Koga]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmwrhO3-BN0

[Demosthenes]

olde, it's ok though, we love you.

[Koga]

Good.
I haven't seen it and I don't get that logic

Care to explain that to me?

[Demosthenes]

i cannot explain it better than the video does.

[Koga]

I understand the concept up to the fourth dimension
Using the 4th dimension or a Tesseract... Instead of saying the fastest way from Point A to Point B is a straight line, using the Tesseract you could point point a right next to point B and never have to travel.

The image from wiki is a good example.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-Tesseract.gif
If you start on the top of the box inside the larger box (Point A) and you want to get to the top of the outside box (Point B) you can Tesseract from Point A to Point B without actually moving.

[Rizer]

the video really does explain it very well, try watching it again. however, take note (of the note at the end of the video haha) that this is one of MANY concepts of dimensions. it doesn't even delve into the idea of dimensions smaller then the first dimension which many physicists believe in. if you want a more in depth idea of dimensions... or well one of the many ideas of dimensions... a really good book is "Warped Passages: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions." it explains everything very thoroughly.. but it might be a lil too heavy for some people in the later chapters ;p

[Niiro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmwrhO3-BN0
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-Tesseract.gif

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3...06a603ath1.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7...0c9dc22se8.jpg

That's what it feels like when I try to understand stuff like this.

[Tricen]

It's basically saying the 10th dimension in that theory is all possible instances in any given anything. in 0th dimension you have 1 point. In 2nd dimension you have a line between 2 points and in the 3rd dimension you have width(In the video they explain it as a fold.). They take those 3 dimensions and put them as a single point, and then draw a line (which would be time) to another point, which gives use #4. In the 5th dimension they say that there are other possibilities that something may have happened, where you would draw a point to each one. Basically, it's going on the theory that there is more than 1 possibility then the one we are in. With that being said, they just take the amount of possibilities in the 5th dimension and put them as a point and make the 6th dimension, then fold it, to make th 7th. It's kind of like a repeating process until the 10th dimension where all possibilities are there.

[thestalkmore]

Saw it, tried time travel, couldn't log on to FFXI in the dark ages, came back.

[Tricen]

Saw it, tried time travel, couldn't log on to FFXI in the dark ages, came back.

Did you enable cookies?

[thestalkmore]

Saw it, tried time travel, couldn't log on to FFXI in the dark ages, came back.

Did you enable cookies?

uh, there wasn't even a power outlet dude

[Tricen]

YOU WANT THIS DOG?

[Rocl]

Check your TCP/IP settings?

[Kaylia]

3d= 3d graphics
4d= animated 3d graphics
5d= an infinite line of animated 3d graphics
6d= an infinite 2d surface (x,y) of animated 3d graphics (x,y,z)
7d= a 3d cube (x,y,z) of animed 3d graphics (x,y,z)
8d= take what you get in 7d as a single entity, and draw a line with
9d= Take what you get in 7d and draw a square
10d= take what you get in 7d and draw a cube


It's easy to vizualize the fluctuation up to 7d imo...everything after make my brain explode.

[Max™]

That's all assuming that said other dimensions are Spatial dimensions and not Temporal ones, and assuming that they are unfurled too.

Nevermind the 11th Dimension. >.>

[Kaylia]

That's all assuming that said other dimensions are Spatial dimensions and not Temporal ones, and assuming that they are unfurled too.

Nevermind the 11th Dimension. >.>

What's the difference between spatial and temporal dimension, they arent really different? Our brain can't really understand anything above 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimension, so no matter what level we try to explain, we have to do it with the 4 we have access to.

[Max™]

That's all assuming that said other dimensions are Spatial dimensions and not Temporal ones, and assuming that they are unfurled too.

Nevermind the 11th Dimension. >.>

What's the difference between spatial and temporal dimension, they arent really different? Our brain can't really understand anything above 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimension, so no matter what level we try to explain, we have to do it with the 4 we have access to.

I don't accept that we can't understand higher dimensional theories, as I'm a firm believer that we exist within a higher dimensional manifold, it's written into our existence.

What was it, the 6th Dimension in that Animation with the various timelines? You could conceive of alternate timelines running alongside our 4th Dimension without being probabilistic fluctuations.

Then there is the idea of curled up dimensions, where the motion through one of these, which isn't unfurled in our 4-Space, get's averaged out by the visible motion through our familiar ones.

We wouldn't notice these because to actually interact directly with them requires one to be on a sub-atomic scale, this is in fact the basis of String Theories vibrations. The idea that Strings are small enough that their vibrations can occur through these folded up dimensions, with or without corresponding motion in our 4-Space. The shape of these folded up dimensions then becomes very important, as the structure these folded up dimensions takes determines the various ways that Strings can Vibrate, and give rise to the elementary particles which we perceive.

If one or more of these curled up dimensions were Temporal, than any motion through said dimension would not necessarily have any duration in our extant Temporal dimension.

String Theory, or M-Theory more accurately, postulates that we have our 4 Visible Dimensions (Up/Down, Left/Right, Depth, Upstream/Downstream), 6 curled up dimensions, often described as a Calabi-Yau shape of some sort, and an 11th Dimension akin to the 10th Dimension from that Animation, the overarching backdrop of all possibilities.

[Septimus]

That's all assuming that said other dimensions are Spatial dimensions and not Temporal ones, and assuming that they are unfurled too.

Nevermind the 11th Dimension. >.>

What's the difference between spatial and temporal dimension, they arent really different? Our brain can't really understand anything above 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimension, so no matter what level we try to explain, we have to do it with the 4 we have access to.

I can understand the concept of more than three dimensional space. I just get the feeling if I ever figure out how to visualize 4 fourth spatial dimension that my brain would implode.

But the concept of multiple temporal dimensions has intrigued me for years now.

[divisortheory]

There's no such thing as "spatial" and "temporal" dimensions. Everything is just a dimension. To an entity living in a 2-dimensional world, a 3rd dimension would appear as "temporal" even though to us it just appears as spatial.

[VZX]

I can't think more than 5 dimensions
1.x
2.y
3.z
4.t
5.parallel world

I feel the explanation about dimension higher than 5 is redundant/nonsense