Dyn-Tav issue last night

[AzazaelFenrir]

My Dynamis LS recently set foot into Tav. Our second run was last night (First was a W too, go us ) and things were going well. Somehow pulled all of the pugils (is this normal?) got a little short on time, but got the extension no problems. Went up to 3rd floor killed up to the hallway and were at the 3 min mark.

We make the decision to sac the mobs and kill the eye. We get it, one extra person dies, but no big deal. Our thf who was gonna hit the ??? dies somehow and can't get the ??? I send another person in to get the mobs out and go to hit the ???.

Here comes the problem.
The ??? wasn't up. The initial THF swears he heard it pop, but I can't see it anywhere. I was under the impression that the eye was the trigger for the ???, did I miss another part of the trigger somewhere?

[Suiram]

My Dynamis LS recently set foot into Tav. Our second run was last night (First was a W too, go us ) and things were going well. Somehow pulled all of the pugils (is this normal?) got a little short on time, but got the extension no problems. Went up to 3rd floor killed up to the hallway and were at the 3 min mark.

We make the decision to sac the mobs and kill the eye. We get it, one extra person dies, but no big deal. Our thf who was gonna hit the ??? dies somehow and can't get the ??? I send another person in to get the mobs out and go to hit the ???.

Here comes the problem.
The ??? wasn't up. The initial THF swears he heard it pop, but I can't see it anywhere. I was under the impression that the eye was the trigger for the ???, did I miss another part of the trigger somewhere?

Not sure what you mean by "heard it pop" but killing the eye is definitely the trigger for it. Perhaps the person tagging the eye off the saccer grabbed the wrong one.

[Lordwafik]

Here comes the problem.
The ??? wasn't up. The initial THF swears he heard it pop, but I can't see it anywhere. I was under the impression that the eye was the trigger for the ???, did I miss another part of the trigger somewhere?

??? makes no noise when it pops. Touching the ??? gives you 30 mins and respawns everything killed.

[AzazaelFenrir]

I didn't think that it did, but as I wasn't (and never have been) I didn't want to leave it out as wrong.

wafik do you have any ideas as to why it didn't pop? One of the two eyes guarding it is the pop condition correct? I know for a fact we killed one of them (the north one)

[Lordwafik]

I'm confident that it was the wrong eye killed.

"Our thf who was gonna hit the ??? dies somehow and can't get the ??? I send another person in to get the mobs out and go to hit the ???."

Not trying to make your thief friend sound bad, but when people mess up, they tend to perform white lies so they don't let everyone know they've been let down majorly. Especially the part where you say "dies somehow".

Zone has been the same since it came out, the only reason for ??? not to pop is the trigger guard eyes not dying.

How far away do you sac eyes/mobs? All the way to the bottom? They take their time coming back up so if they all didn't return by the time you went to click the ???, no way to tell.

That, or, you didn't look in the right spot for the ??? (very unlikely).

[AzazaelFenrir]

The only reason I think we killed the correct eye, is because only one eye came with the pull, and it was pulled to the group and killed. I watched the entire pull happen. Unless (and this just occurred to me) the eye started casting AM (they can right?, tier 4 if not) and while the puller ran around the circle the eye decided to path to the opposite hallway. Meaning the eye that we saw was from another section up there. If it did path back down the opposite hallway that would explain why the eye wasn't there when I went to look for the ??? after sacing the mobs a second time.

Does that sound reasonable?

[Lordwafik]

The only reason I think we killed the correct eye, is because only one eye came with the pull, and it was pulled to the group and killed. I watched the entire pull happen. Unless (and this just occurred to me) the eye started casting AM (they can right?, tier 4 if not) and while the puller ran around the circle the eye decided to path to the opposite hallway. Meaning the eye that we saw was from another section up there. If it did path back down the opposite hallway that would explain why the eye wasn't there when I went to look for the ??? after sacing the mobs a second time.

Does that sound reasonable?

Your puller only pulled 1 eye ? Like, right after the hornets, the first eye? :\ That's not a trigger eye, but I'm sure you know that, and I probably read your post wrong. Speaking of, i'll finish this tomorrow <_< bed for me :D

[AzazaelFenrir]

when you wake up you can see this

We pulled the two hornets. We pulled the Eye with the War and THF. We pulled the BLM, NIN and BST eye. We did not pull the PLD DRK SMN eye due to time. I know that these mobs linked (saw the avatar). That is what is leading me to believe the eye we killed was that eye and not the time eye (Mnk and Whm) since the time eye may have pathed odd.

[Suiram]

So you are saying that you killed the first roaming eye past the bees, then the eye that roams up and down the ramp, then pulled the time-pop eye, which invariably links the eye with the wide roaming path just to the north if you haven't cleared it, and when both eyes came you think you killed the roaming one instead of the one that pops the time eye? That's what I think, too.

[Seditedi]

??? makes no noise when popped <_< you just killed the wrong eye, the one that pops the ??? is the one that is in the middle hallway (pretty impossible to pull link free), thats all there is to it.

[Julian]

Here comes the problem.
The ??? wasn't up. The initial THF swears he heard it pop, but I can't see it anywhere. I was under the impression that the eye was the trigger for the ???, did I miss another part of the trigger somewhere?

??? makes no noise when it pops. Touching the ??? gives you 30 mins and respawns everything killed.

Technically, it spawns more mobs, it doesn't just respawn whatever you killed. (nitpicking, I'm sure that's probably what you meant)

[Diametric]

I've had issues sometimes with ???s and Dynamis markings and NPCs not loading properly for me. I'm not sure how laggy Tav might be with only 18 people in it, but is it possible that you lagged out and therefore the ??? didn't load properly for you?

[AzazaelFenrir]

I've had issues sometimes with ???s and Dynamis markings and NPCs not loading properly for me. I'm not sure how laggy Tav might be with only 18 people in it, but is it possible that you lagged out and therefore the ??? didn't load properly for you?

Always possible but I am normally the one person who doesn't have loading problems

I am just going to believe at this point that the eye started casting a long spell and pathed to the south once it stopped instead of out to the group. It ultimately meant that I got to go to bed 30 minutes early

[Izzy]

Sounds to me like you killed the wrong eye Q_Q