RNG stuff

[Howard Roark]

sorry bout the gear question but all the other guides i read, the OP gav me the feeling they didnt know what theyre talking about

hihi, got RNG to 50 recently and been noticing that my initial advice from a RNG friend to go as mach racc as possible til higher levels is starting to kick in around now

for bow setup, i use carapace+1 garrulous (already started swapping some out) p charm, royal something belt, rse elvaan legs (2 agi) striders (i pack leaping in case) nomads+1 shikaree and/or brig+1 (still undecided) voyager (i pack emp pin but dont rly use altho i might get unlazy and make a barrage gear macro) 2x hawkers+1 (packing vulcans for 51 to test out, regretting selling my m kris for gun tp goodness) um what else... oh cassie and genin (sometimes use drone instead of cassie, and i havent had the heart to replace genin with heims) and noct+1 hands (god those are such a weak slot)

for xbow its quite similar except i toss in devotee+1 and solace rings for holy bolts, altho the additional effect proc %/resist[?] doesnt seem affected by the mere 13 mnd i have equipped (14 if brig is on)

oh and i use sole+1 (thinking of going to curry soon)

ok enough wallotext, i guess im wondering if i can lose the carapace+1 in favor of xbowmans ring (rattk+5) but im guessing sidewinder will require some tweaking of gear (returning to racc) and if vulcans is a bit premature to equip (thats ALOT of racc lost from the 2 knives)


2 more questions if you dont mind: worthwhile rng af pieces (including those worthwhile to hold on for af1+1)

and

is it true racc >> rattk >> agi >> str is the general hierarchy for rng gear? really hoping i dont get 6 'ish is situational replies' cuz im still a bit boggled by the relation of regular melee desired stats and how (if at all) they correlate to ranged attack desired stats (including swaps for ws)

THANKS (and sorry again)

[Howard Roark]

tl;dr

hookay so no replies (/_\) can anyone direct me to a link of a rng bible by someone that knows what theyre talking about or enlighten me on the pDif type stuff for rng?

[fallenleaf]

r.acc and r.att can swap in importance depending on the mob you are fighting. If you are dual hawkers AND sushi, then I vote ranger necklace over PCC. In fact I always use ranger neck over pcc.

STR is always...always better then AGI. Seiryu's Kote is a notable exception only because it's agi+15 plus the r.acc+.

worthwhile AF pieces as I recall(haven't played in months) are hands, legs, hat, body. Some people wear feet but i guess I never saw them as worth it. RNG af+1 is pretty much shit, except hands if you can by the grace of god land all of your barrage.

if you get into chaining low VT you might be able to switch to meat, but beyond that at this point you'll just get mad at how much you miss. 70+ and especially 75 with merits meat is almost always viable(i would use sushi on I think kirin only).

[Starr]

Does anyone know for certain if they removed the distance to accuracy/damage? If so I missed it in the updates but it really feels like they have and might aswell have with the addition of VS.

[yrpaine]

I wouldn't worry about going too crazy with str until 70+ when rng gets it's final racc trait, b4 then you will still need your racc gear in most case. I would stick with daggers/axes till then, I usually keep staff for hnm when /war. For exp if you /war on rng in most cases you'll lose more exp than you gain (you'd be tanking with no shadows lol).

IMO with the gear you listed:
Keep voyager sallet on full time till optical hat
keep shikaree aketon on full time until osode unless you need racc
use 2 acc rings, the +ratt rings are lol thats why they're cheap
royal knights belt is fine, i personally use the lvl 60 +5racc +5 acc one for tp and potent belt for ws, as elvaan +2agi +2str should be fine.
+agi earrings are fine till 67, then i may suggest str earrings, but nobody would complain with agi earrings pre 75.
Keep striders if you have them, you won't notice the 1agi difference, you will notice the movement speed.
ppl that use nq amemet on rng make me die on the inside.

i had a pretty awesome +mnd (had ~ +60 mnd) setup for x-bow, but i abandoned it for e-bow because e-bow made it look lol. exp with x-bow is ok but endgame you'll be using bow or gun. Only 1 rng in pty should really be using x-bow at a time (if more than 1 rng) others should be using bow or gun, so I wouldn't go overboard on x-bow gear.

At first use coeurl sub(same ratt and str as yellow curry, stacks to 12 last 30 min), if you have acc problems use your preferred sushi. Bring stack of both to camp.

As to your racc/ratt/agi/str thing. If you don't hit you don't do dmg, find spot where you have enough racc and then add +str or +ratt. You have very limited +ratt gear b4 endgame, you really won't notice a huge difference other than WS. You'll do much better stacking racc gear and using coeurl sub imo.

[Howard Roark]

just dinged 51 today, and yeah, wasnt too impressed with vulcans even on decent challenges with bloodies while i was seeking, i noticed some misses i wasnt too happy about

ya, people i asked are split 50/50 on emp vs v sallet, but im more happy with sallet for the most part

kinda figured the 5 rattk was a poor swap for 8 racc but im gonna stick with 1 racc and 1 garrulous (3str 3agi) since this one taru rng with toau rng ring totally wow-ed me a month ago (wish i could remember his name)


and lastly, the weakest slot: the hands, just go akinji hands? or are those lvl 60 hand swith slow on em worth it, afaiu slow doesnt affect ranged attacks but this could be misinformed

[yrpaine]

kinda figured the 5 rattk was a poor swap for 8 racc but im gonna stick with 1 racc and 1 garrulous (3str 3agi) since this one taru rng with toau rng ring totally wow-ed me a month ago (wish i could remember his name)


and lastly, the weakest slot: the hands, just go akinji hands? or are those lvl 60 hand swith slow on em worth it, afaiu slow doesnt affect ranged attacks but this could be misinformed

lvl 60 hands with +racc, you won't be melee much as otherj obs and slow don't effect ratt speed.

I used garrulous ring for like 1 pty and sold it. it's not very good imo, i'd rather go all out on racc gear and use ratt/str food than be half assed at a few things thinking they'll add up.