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    Virtualization for Linux

    I'm currently running Ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop but I'd like to have a virtualization program for homework (I have to run Fedora Core 6 as a virtual machine). I've tried virtual box but I can't send CTRL+ALT+F2 to the machine and when I attempt to do send it normally it flips over to terminal in my HOST OS. This is a huge problem since most of the assignments are required to be done in virtual consoles on FC6 (Which is what CTRL+ALT+F2 does)...

    So to cut to the chase I need a different virtualization program.

    Please help me out. Thank you.

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    Re: Virtualization for Linux

    brain hurts, not happy

    viewforum.php?f=36

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    Re: Virtualization for Linux

    You haven't even told us what you're using.

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    Re: Virtualization for Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark
    brain hurts, not happy

    viewforum.php?f=36
    Not looking for support as I know what I'm doing I'm looking for a program. Thanks though.

    Netz: Uh it even says Ubuntu 7.10 in the first line of my post?

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    Re: Virtualization for Linux

    virtualbox is the only free one that i know...

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    Re: Virtualization for Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by Killgannon
    virtualbox is the only free one that i know...
    I'm hoping this problem is only with the program ! Since the CNET instructor is getting us into VMwares student thing. But I'm still stuck until then. ! So any suggestions would help.

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    Re: Virtualization for Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikith

    Not looking for support as I know what I'm doing I'm looking for a program. Thanks though.

    Netz: Uh it even says Ubuntu 7.10 in the first line of my post?
    #1: this is a support question, no matter what way you look at it, lol...

    #2: I'm blind. I meant the virtualization environment, but all I scanned for was VMware and didn't see it; you're using VirtualBox. My mistake.

    editing again:

    If you're not running X under your virtual machine, Alt+numkey is the same as ctrl-alt-fkey for text console swaps.

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    One more:

    Since you couldn't be fucked to read the manual:

    3.4.1.1 Capturing and releasing keyboard and mouse
    Since the operating system in the virtual machine does not “know” that it is not run-
    ning on a real computer, it expects to have exclusive control over your keyboard and
    mouse. This is, however, not the case since, unless you are running the VM in full-
    screen mode, your VM needs to share keyboard and mouse with other applications
    and possibly other VMs on your host.
    As a result, initially after installing a host operating system and before you install
    the guest additions (we will explain this in a minute), only one of the two – your VM
    or the rest of your computer – can “own” the keyboard and the mouse. You will see a
    second mouse pointer which will always be con?ned to the limits of the VM window.
    Basically, you activate the VM by clicking inside it.
    To return ownership of keyboard and mouse to your host operating system,
    VirtualBox reserves a special key on your keyboard for itself: the “host key”. By
    default, this is the right Control key on your keyboard, but you can change this default
    in the VirtualBox Global Settings. In any case, the current setting for the host key is
    always displayed at the bottom right of your VM window, should you have forgotten
    about it:
    In detail, all this translates into the following:
    • Your keyboard is owned by the VM if the VM window on your host desktop
    has the keyboard focus (and then, if you have many windows open in your guest
    operating system as well, the window that has the focus in your VM). This means
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    that if you want to type within your VM, click on the title bar of your VM window
    ?rst.
    To release keyboard ownership, press the Host key (as explained above, typically
    the right Control key).
    Note that while the VM owns the keyboard, some key sequences (like Alt-Tab for
    example) will no longer be seen by the host, but will go to the guest instead.
    After you press the host key to reenable the host keyboard, all key presses will
    go through the host again, so that sequences like Alt-Tab will no longer reach the
    guest.

    edit: a little bit down the manual...

    Host operating systems reserve certain key combinations for themselves. For
    example, it is impossible to enter the Ctrl+Alt+Delete combination if you want
    to reboot the guest operating system in your virtual machine, because this key
    combination is usually hard-wired into the host OS (both Windows and Linux
    intercept this), and pressing this key combination will therefore reboot your host.
    Also, with Linux, the key combination Ctrl+Alt+Backspace normally resets the
    X server (to restart the entire graphical user interface in case it got stuck). As
    the X server intercepts this combination, pressing it will usually restart your host
    graphical userface (and kill all running programs, including VirtualBox, in the
    process).
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    3 Starting out with VirtualBox
    Third, also with Linux, the key combination Ctrl+Alt+Fx (where Fx is one of
    the function keys from F1 to F12) normally allows to switch between virtual
    terminals. As with Ctrl+Alt+Delete, these combinations are intercepted by the
    host operating system and therefore always switch terminals on the host.
    If, instead, you want to send these key combinations to the guest operating sys-
    tem in the virtual machine, you will need to use one of the following methods:
    – Use the items in the “VM” menu of the virtual machine window. There you
    will ?nd “Insert Ctrl+Alt+Delete” and “Ctrl+Alt+Backspace”; the latter
    will only have an effect with Linux guests, however.
    – Press special key combinations with the Host key (normally the right Con-
    trol key), which VirtualBox will then translate for the virtual machine:
    ? Host key + Del to send Ctrl+Alt+Del (to reboot the guest);
    ? Host key + Backspace to send Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (to restart the
    graphical user interface of a Linux guest);
    ? Host key + F1 (or other function keys) to simulate Ctrl+Alt+F1 (or
    other function keys, i.e. to switch between virtual terminals in a Linux
    guest).

    have fun.

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    Re: Virtualization for Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by netz
    One more:

    Since you couldn't be fucked to read the manual:

    3.4.1.1 Capturing and releasing keyboard and mouse
    Since the operating system in the virtual machine does not “know” that it is not run-
    ning on a real computer, it expects to have exclusive control over your keyboard and
    mouse. This is, however, not the case since, unless you are running the VM in full-
    screen mode, your VM needs to share keyboard and mouse with other applications
    and possibly other VMs on your host.
    As a result, initially after installing a host operating system and before you install
    the guest additions (we will explain this in a minute), only one of the two – your VM
    or the rest of your computer – can “own” the keyboard and the mouse. You will see a
    second mouse pointer which will always be con?ned to the limits of the VM window.
    Basically, you activate the VM by clicking inside it.
    To return ownership of keyboard and mouse to your host operating system,
    VirtualBox reserves a special key on your keyboard for itself: the “host key”. By
    default, this is the right Control key on your keyboard, but you can change this default
    in the VirtualBox Global Settings. In any case, the current setting for the host key is
    always displayed at the bottom right of your VM window, should you have forgotten
    about it:
    In detail, all this translates into the following:
    • Your keyboard is owned by the VM if the VM window on your host desktop
    has the keyboard focus (and then, if you have many windows open in your guest
    operating system as well, the window that has the focus in your VM). This means
    30
    3 Starting out with VirtualBox
    that if you want to type within your VM, click on the title bar of your VM window
    ?rst.
    To release keyboard ownership, press the Host key (as explained above, typically
    the right Control key).
    Note that while the VM owns the keyboard, some key sequences (like Alt-Tab for
    example) will no longer be seen by the host, but will go to the guest instead.
    After you press the host key to reenable the host keyboard, all key presses will
    go through the host again, so that sequences like Alt-Tab will no longer reach the
    guest.

    edit: a little bit down the manual...

    Host operating systems reserve certain key combinations for themselves. For
    example, it is impossible to enter the Ctrl+Alt+Delete combination if you want
    to reboot the guest operating system in your virtual machine, because this key
    combination is usually hard-wired into the host OS (both Windows and Linux
    intercept this), and pressing this key combination will therefore reboot your host.
    Also, with Linux, the key combination Ctrl+Alt+Backspace normally resets the
    X server (to restart the entire graphical user interface in case it got stuck). As
    the X server intercepts this combination, pressing it will usually restart your host
    graphical userface (and kill all running programs, including VirtualBox, in the
    process).
    31
    3 Starting out with VirtualBox
    Third, also with Linux, the key combination Ctrl+Alt+Fx (where Fx is one of
    the function keys from F1 to F12) normally allows to switch between virtual
    terminals. As with Ctrl+Alt+Delete, these combinations are intercepted by the
    host operating system and therefore always switch terminals on the host.
    If, instead, you want to send these key combinations to the guest operating sys-
    tem in the virtual machine, you will need to use one of the following methods:
    – Use the items in the “VM” menu of the virtual machine window. There you
    will ?nd “Insert Ctrl+Alt+Delete” and “Ctrl+Alt+Backspace”; the latter
    will only have an effect with Linux guests, however.
    – Press special key combinations with the Host key (normally the right Con-
    trol key), which VirtualBox will then translate for the virtual machine:
    ? Host key + Del to send Ctrl+Alt+Del (to reboot the guest);
    ? Host key + Backspace to send Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (to restart the
    graphical user interface of a Linux guest);
    ? Host key + F1 (or other function keys) to simulate Ctrl+Alt+F1 (or
    other function keys, i.e. to switch between virtual terminals in a Linux
    guest).

    have fun.
    I swear I searched the help thing Obviously not well enough. Thank you! NOW TO HOMEWORRRRKKKKK!!!

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    Re: Virtualization for Linux

    On a separate more personal note how are you liking Ubuntu? Ive been using it on my laptop for the past 2 months testing it and what not and I must say that I am really impressed with it so far. The Ubuntu Server Edition meh not so much, but thats another story.

    Refreshing to see other users trying it out and see what you guys are finding.

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    Re: Virtualization for Linux

    Moved to Tech Forum...

    Ubuntu is fun to play around with and has a lot more functionality than I thought it would. Though I'm too much of a PC gamer to ever consider it as a full time OS

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