Kirin Kiting Gear?

[Denchi]

So our LS is still all about Kiting + Blms + Rngs. And we have Pld/Nins and Nin/Wars kite, and I have my tanking gear for gods and whatnot as Nin, but I use haste/-phys%. And with Kirin..... I never actually get hit by melee attacks, it's always heat breath or great sandstorm that fucks me up, so I'm wondering in what gear people kite him with (if anyone still kites him)?

Would +Fire Resist help? or +Earth?

[Alastaire]

Pretty sure fire resist does nothing for Heat Breath, but in any case, enmity+ over anything else. Chances of you resisting Stonega IV if you get hit by it are slim to none.

[Lordwafik]

If you're getting hit by heat breath something's up, since it's got a long wind up. Just keep the +HP +Enmity gear, and have a whm cure5 you if it eats alot of health.

[Blackice]

If you're kiting as NIN, stack as much possible enmity as you can afford. If you're PLD/NIN do the same only mixed with some Haste for Flash recast and of course crimson legs if you have them.

[diemos]

Like previous posters said, it's HP+ and Enmity+.
Lacking of a balance of either will get you or your ls members killed.


Personally I swap back and forth between Earth Staff and chainsaw sword.

If you're hit with Tail Whip or whatever it is and get Bound, curespam yourself so you can keep hate over your mages who curespammed you (if your mages are good) and to make sure you have enough HP cause he'll spam that shit if you're bound.

I kite on PLD NIN or SAM(I turn kirin lots ^^).
Then again.. we usually do kirin with 14-18 people.

[RKenshin]

As others said, kite in as much enmity gear as you can and where there's space you add HP. It's also extremely helpful to have a flatout -magic damage set of gear for if you're getting unlucky and have to eat a Stonega or Whirlwinds/Sandstorms. Heat breath usually shouldn't be much of a problem, but you can even use it for that.

[Denchi]

mmmk.... thanks for the input.

Also, if I straight-up kite I don't get hit with any of that stuff, and even Stonega IV doesn't USUALLY kill me (i run around with maybe 1800hp). But when we SC it's helpful for me, the tank, to stop running so people can get their WS's off. And during that time Kirin of course does like 4 great whirlwinds in a row and I get fucked. I guess I could try the -Magic % gear, so we'll try that.

[Weeks]

NINs really should sub DRK for kiting Kirin. Allows your DDs to really go all out once they're brought into the fight without pulling hate. So typically I wear:

Walahra Turban
Harmonia's Torque
Eris' Earring +1x2
Arhat's Gi +1
Seiryu's Kote
Mermaid Ring
Merman's Ring
Resentment Cape
Speed Belt
Byakko's Haidate
Fuma Sune-ate/Ninja Kyahan +1

[Denchi]

Yeah I'm working on Drk sub

[bungie]

when I was in an ls that still would kite kirin we let the RDM/NIN's kite, they held hate so much better than the NIN's we had and would almost never get hit, then again they also had crimson legs.

[Coldplay4tw]

PLD/NIN WAR/NIN works best imo.. Just run around in the room havin RNGs & BLMs go crazy on it, dont worry about BLM gettin hate its so easy to kite Kirin.. But when a Sleepga go off, the BLM will die.

We useally str8 up though, after lessers dead, its really simple to kill it quickly str8 up.. Our fastest str8 up without "TP Burning it" was 17min after lessers died. We kite it for 3mins and let PLDs get hate, then we stop it and just SC Light/Frag and spam AeroIV TorandoII AerogaIII etc etc.
So much funnier and way more effective. We've had some bad ones though >_> Sucks when half the Ally dies due to a Titan on Earthsday or something, then we will just kite for 5-10min til we're healed and finish it off.

[Denchi]

What happens if you get hit with a GA IV?

[Coldplay4tw]

We always have a stun WS ready for AoE spells, and even if it goes off with stoneskin&barstone it doesnt really do more dmg than anyone can handle just quick curagas and you are back on track, a SMN in melee pt is also important(forgot to mention), he can keep stoneskin up for melee whenever Kirin wants a StonegaIV to go off..

[Celebrindor]

we now use a PLD/NIN + RDM/NIN combo for the kiting phase of our Kirin fights. (We kite through the minis, then meleeburn it down) And 9 times out of 10, our RDM/NIN in very minimal +emnity gear (we're talking warwolf belt and a couple other pieces, not even dual NQ chainsaws) wins by a mile. Add in the ability to self haste/refresh/barspell and natural magic defense bonus, and its no contest. I've got a very conservative MDB build (duelist's gloves, lamia mantle, lamian kayhan- both NQ), and I just don't run from Stonega IVs any more- no need. Considering I just got my w.legs 2 weeks ago, I've started my +emnity set so our current RDM/NIN kiter can return to coming BLM to speed up the minis.

I can understand the desire to be a kiter while NIN/WAR or NIN/DRK, but to be honest your services are better spent either meleeing (if you can convince your shell to meleeburn it after astral flow- which is doable by about any shell with sky experience TBH) or coming MNK and chi-blasting if you can't. Reason being is the ability to have that movement speed active 100% of the time, not just at night, and other jobs just have it a helluva lot easier to kite Kirin.

But yeah, +emnity, +HP and straight -magic damage would be best I can believe. However I have been told that great whirlwind is a physical attack (and considering the beating I've taken on that move even with respectable MDB gear, I'm starting to believe it) there is a need high HP as well. And get /drk up- as a RDM I know the hell that was after leveling a highly sought after job, but its completely worth it for a multitude of situations.

[Ohemgee]

We use WHM/NIN WAR/NIN and RDM/WHM for kiting. If for some reason the WAR dies, I kite.



Oh and when the WAR dies (usually fucks with me and dies after all the summons are gone), I'm kiting from 100->0%

[Chupunpupun]

we now use a PLD/NIN + RDM/NIN combo for the kiting phase of our Kirin fights. (We kite through the minis, then meleeburn it down) And 9 times out of 10, our RDM/NIN in very minimal +emnity gear (we're talking warwolf belt and a couple other pieces, not even dual NQ chainsaws) wins by a mile. Add in the ability to self haste/refresh/barspell and natural magic defense bonus, and its no contest. I've got a very conservative MDB build (duelist's gloves, lamia mantle, lamian kayhan- both NQ), and I just don't run from Stonega IVs any more- no need. Considering I just got my w.legs 2 weeks ago, I've started my +emnity set so our current RDM/NIN kiter can return to coming BLM to speed up the minis.

I can understand the desire to be a kiter while NIN/WAR or NIN/DRK, but to be honest your services are better spent either meleeing (if you can convince your shell to meleeburn it after astral flow- which is doable by about any shell with sky experience TBH) or coming MNK and chi-blasting if you can't. Reason being is the ability to have that movement speed active 100% of the time, not just at night, and other jobs just have it a helluva lot easier to kite Kirin.

But yeah, +emnity, +HP and straight -magic damage would be best I can believe. However I have been told that great whirlwind is a physical attack (and considering the beating I've taken on that move even with respectable MDB gear, I'm starting to believe it) there is a need high HP as well. And get /drk up- as a RDM I know the hell that was after leveling a highly sought after job, but its completely worth it for a multitude of situations.

Using Terra staff and not using it, yields the same damage from whirlwind.

[Medivac]

tanks still use /war lol?

[Marsala]

What happens if you get hit with a GA IV?

The more people that get hit by -GA IV the less it hurts each person. Just have the whole ally run in if you see one. When we do it well each person takes maybe 500 dmg max.

You can always have a BLU/THf or THF/BLU headbutt it too.

[Alastaire]

tanks still use /war lol?

I tank as /WAR





























...for Faust.

[Weeks]

/DRK is actually a much better sub for Faust. You take more damage, but still not a lot and you hold hate a ton better so you can kill him 3 or 4 times as fast.