something else to read during maintenance DT

[hannibalism]

... or if you just don't feel like working. my apologies for the self-promotion here, but i finally finished an article on FFXI and game addiction. some of you from Bahamut might remember Hannibalism because of his annoying tachi: gekko macro...

anyhow, here is the link:

http://www.thefanzine.com/articles/f...even_seconds/1

it's a long read. also apologies in advance for the crappy ps2 SS, which i also apologize for in the end, but in case you don't make it that far, i'm saying it now. thanks for reading if you do.

is this advanced? i don't know.

[Lordwafik]

is this advanced? i don't know.

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[drwaffles]

I only read the first page because the others wouldn't load for me, and the only thing I can think to say is this - I'm sorry you're incapable of leading a normal, relatively healthy life in both a personal and social sense whilst still managing to enjoy playing a highly engrossing video game such as FFXI, but a lot of us don't have the same issues when it comes to finding a balance between the two.

[Wizeman]

...- I'm sorry you're incapable of leading a normal, relatively healthy life in both a personal and social sense whilst still managing to enjoy playing a highly engrossing video game such as FFXI, but a lot of us don't have the same issues when it comes to finding a balance between the two.

Lol He took the time to write a artical id say that a balance, your artical should have been about how to write a artical to maintain the balance between your gaming life and other parts of life like oh your creative parts.

[Kilhart]

Lol He took the time to write a artical id say that a balance, your artical should have been about how to write a artical to maintain the balance between your gaming life and other parts of life like oh your creative parts.

He wrote the article AFTER he quit. What was there to balance?

[Wizeman]

He wrote the article AFTER he quit. What was there to balance?

Lol. you didnt expect me to actually read that thing did u :/

[Kenji]

I only read the first page because the others wouldn't load for me, and the only thing I can think to say is this - I'm sorry you're incapable of leading a normal, relatively healthy life in both a personal and social sense whilst still managing to enjoy playing a highly engrossing video game such as FFXI, but a lot of us don't have the same issues when it comes to finding a balance between the two.

Agree with this.

Who cares if he wrote the article after he quit? The issue is, he had problems balancing his real life and FFXI. FOr a difference perspective, replace every "FFXI" reference with "Alcohol". Now he's spent 556 days drinking alcohol over his lifetime. Or anything else, it doesn't have to be bad. Say Mountain climbing and hiking. Someone writing an article about how they hiked and climbed mountains so much, they missed job opportunities and social skills.

Anything can take over your life, causing you to focus so much on it that you neglect everything else. Sometimes you need help getting out of that pit; but recognize that it was your choice that put you there.

Now let's take that hiking/mountain climbing addict guy. That time isn't wasted, if he got out of it what he wanted. Same with the model plane building guy. He may have "wasted" his life building hundreds of toy planes, but if he enjoyed it, and he's happy with his life, then what's the problem?

Someday I'll quit FFXI. I won't look back on it as wasted time. I'll remember everything I've done, and that I enjoyed the journey. I spent my time doing what I enjoyed. Anything I may have missed in the meantime, is my responsibility. But I made a choice: I looked at the cost of doing various things, and I chose what I wanted to do at that time.

The OP is trying to say FFXI sucks because it takes so much time. But it only takes that time if you let it. The OP let it.

[Wizeman]

Agree with this.

Who cares if he wrote the article after he quit? The issue is, he had problems balancing his real life and FFXI. FOr a difference perspective, replace every "FFXI" reference with "Alcohol". Now he's spent 556 days drinking alcohol over his lifetime. Or anything else, it doesn't have to be bad. Say Mountain climbing and hiking. Someone writing an article about how they hiked and climbed mountains so much, they missed job opportunities and social skills.

Anything can take over your life, causing you to focus so much on it that you neglect everything else. Sometimes you need help getting out of that pit; but recognize that it was your choice that put you there.

Now let's take that hiking/mountain climbing addict guy. That time isn't wasted, if he got out of it what he wanted. Same with the model plane building guy. He may have "wasted" his life building hundreds of toy planes, but if he enjoyed it, and he's happy with his life, then what's the problem?

Someday I'll quit FFXI. I won't look back on it as wasted time. I'll remember everything I've done, and that I enjoyed the journey. I spent my time doing what I enjoyed. Anything I may have missed in the meantime, is my responsibility. But I made a choice: I looked at the cost of doing various things, and I chose what I wanted to do at that time.

The OP is trying to say FFXI sucks because it takes so much time. But it only takes that time if you let it. The OP let it.

Lol you should write an artical

[Aux]

For some, the so called addiction to FFXI could be attributed to a personality trait. It's unfair to make a conniption out of them saying they can't manage time efficiently because there are other factors that aren't being considered in the first place.

I've no relevant experience in human psychology, but I feel I can draw out some random things that might attribute to them.

I'd say some traits can be passed down through heredity as you can inherit traits from people of your blood. But anyway, some examples I can toss out:
-The desire to be unique
-The desire to stand out;
-Being on top of their game (no pun intended; just a metaphor)
-Finding friends in other methods
-Passing time (similar to the common thing people do by watching TV)
-etc, any other examples go here

Have you tried browsing FFXIAH's "achievement" ranking system? What would you say about say the top, say ~500 people listed there across all servers? Are these all individuals that cannot manage their time efficiently just to play a game? Is it fair to judge them off the bat like that?

These guys have a lot of great gear, relic weapons, a bunch of good stuff the average player's always wanted. We can say for sure that it's not possible for someone with under say, around ~200 days of playtime to have a relic weapon. I haven't done the math from calcuating how long it would exactly take you to get 75, SJs to 37, and a relic out of dynamis but I'm fairly confident enough to say that it wouldn't be under 200 days on that person. Note that I'm not trying to exonerate those who do have such things and play, but rather get the idea across that this may be related to people who want to be good at what they do.

These are example questions and reasonings that are often unanswered/unchallenged, or just simply people don't care or attempt to make a deal out of it; yet it does reflect exactly what the author of that journal was saying.

However after reading the first few pages, I had a premonition that the article was going to cover all the dark sides of FFXI, spoken in toned down newbie-perspective to get people who've never heard of the game to understand why it might not be worth playing, or caution them of the dangers ahead.

We know it's there, often some if not many of us refuse to accept this or use other social means of measurements to counter the fact that "they aren't hooked to a video game". (Note, I'm not related to hannibalism or do I know him at all)

Just my 2 cents.


PS. I have to say, hats off to anyone who manages their linkshell. Its a pain in the ass to work with all the point systems, attendance, making the decision of who gets what. It almost is like what they've said, another real-time job which you don't get paid for. I really wish FFXI had some kind of player evaluation thing at the end of some instanced event, similar to how FPS have frags at the map rotation, time played, efficiency, etc. It would make the whole thing easier to manage.

[Afrohatch]

I so thought that was a penis at the top of the page

[Kimiko]

Advanced? Perhaps not, but still worthy of discussion.

[Tonyanjaii]

I read your entire write-up about your experience with the game. I can somewhat relate on a few things you have written. Wish I had the opportunity to get to you, as the people you wrote about, I was also friends with a couple of them. None of the less, it was a very well thought out, I really enjoyed the read. It is only a matter of time when certain games can potentially be a disorder of some type.

[Izzy]

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WAFIK'S HOUSE HAS STAIRS!?!?!?

[Kilhart]

"FIVE HUNDRED-EIGHTY-SIX DAYS, FOURTEEN HOURS, FORTY-SIX MINUTES, ELEVEN SECONDS"

Five hundred eighty-six days and fourteen hours
Five hundred eighty-six days of moments so dear
Five hundred eighty-six days and fourteen hours
How do you measure? Measure those years

In parties,
In linkshells,
In crafting, in experience,
In Salvage, in Sky, in Nyzul Assault
In five hundred eighty-six days and fourteen hours
How do you measure those years in that game?

How about, don't?

[Mikeal]

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GJ banning a 1 post account.

Was a really good article but apparently you don't have to know how to read to be a BG forums moderator...

Now, will you try and ban me too?

[Not Kuno]

GJ banning a 1 post account.

Was a really good article but apparently you don't have to know how to read to be a BG forums moderator...

Now, will you try and ban me too?

I think he was making a very lame 4chan joke. He wasn't serious.

[Rocl]

I think he was making a very lame 4chan joke. He wasn't serious.

It is a 4chan joke. As for the not having to read thing; well maybe some people don't want to read a shitty article about a shitty player!

[Mikeal]

Rocl: I'm sorry it was too complex for you.

Rocl: jk, but only if you tell me wtf 4chan is lol.

[Howard Roark]

Lol you should write an artical

Holy christ it's "article", someone even typed it correctly since you wrote it the 1st time.

[thetruepandagod]

Rocl: I'm sorry it was too complex for you.

Rocl: jk, but only if you tell me wtf 4chan is lol.

a shitty website that has become a retarded facebook with nothing but bad scene girl porn