Buying Black Belt items advice

[Waku]

I've recently finished out the brown belt quest and want to start collecting the 3 black belt items. I have nearly enough KS for 2 KS99 runs, but not a LS that does them ever.

What is the best way to "buy" these off of groups? Chill at HNM pops with WTB in seek message? Shout in WG? Find a merc group for KS99? I figure a lot of the HNM LSes may not need them as much so it's my best shot?

Any helpful tips would be much appreciated.

[Shinryuu]

Hay Waku, FG here, don't count on KSNM99 for all of the items, just find a few people willing to camp Adamantoise with you. Behemoth: camp it, get ToD, claim Behemoth and kill or get lucky and claim KB, sell claim for 750k + tongue to a LS; as for Fafnir you're going to have to dish out if you're unlucky on the two KSNMs you can do. We as a linkshell could probably do Wyrm, anyway, as long as people show up.

[Syntex]

I would say just show up to king camps like he said with in interest in buying it.

Most if not all of the shells that kill kings toss the items because everyone and their mother has it and if you get to know a shell I bet they will give it to you for free.

If you are unable to sweet talk yourself into getting a set offer like 100k or something then work your way up. Personally if no one else is there trying to get it and no one in their group needs it I think that they will take any offer just be like "You can take my 100k for something you will just throw away, or get nothing" most shells rather compromise for something then take nothing.

Thats what I would do anyways as KS99 is a crapshoot even with 18 decent players.

[Duber]

Well, you can try buying it at camps (gl with claiming) but you can also pop to other shell's ks99 runs and try to buy them bb item there.

[Vigilia]

We've given away dozens of wyrm beards and behemoth tongues to peeps just asking at camps, Asura seems fifty-fifty in that some LSes won't ever give it to you for free while others will. Only one you may struggle to ask for/buy at a camp with will be aspid egg because it's that much rarer. BUT if you're insanely lucky you can also just go duo/trio it with a friend, same with NQ Behemoth. Another way is to just ask friends in LSes doing KS99s regularly, before we joined an HNM LS ourselves my husband got his wyrm beard from a KS99 run of a friend's LS as none of their members needed anyway and it would had just been tossed otherwise. Like noted above, some linkshells will charge you for them, others will give away for free, just start asking sackholders in Aery/BD/VoS or check out LS websites on your server (the merc shells tend to list their prices in public view). Very random from one server to the next how shells have chosen to deal with unwanted items.

[Waku]

Cool, this is sorta what I figured it would be like. Guess I just need to figure out approx tod on land gods, or figure out which LSes most often do them on Remora.

[evilpaul]

I'd check on FFXIAH.com and see who on your server has it listed in their Bazaars. You can also add it to your Wanted list and somebody may contact you to sell the items. Show up to King camps and politely ask whoever claims if they'll sell you the items.

The NQ turtle isn't hard. You can kill it with only 3 people. MNK/NIN, somebody with Dispel/Dia2 and Cures, and someone else to kill/sleep adds and it's cake. NQ Behemoth isn't hard either.

If you're going to do KS99s the Behemoth is probably the easiest one. Wyrm will kill you if you can't get it out of the air ASAP. I haven't done the turtle one personally.

Hope that helps!

[Okan]

BCNMs:
Turtle is a bitch. [Edit: If you're going to do BCNM for some items, this is the one I highly recommend to avoid and just buy from an LS that gets Ada/Aspid.]
Wyrm is easily manaburnable if you know the BLMs and the proper strats.
Behemoth is fought very similar to the real KB -- kite and nuke.

On days that NQ Behe and Turtle are going to pop generally aren't too highly camped because people really want the abjurations. However because they ARE so easy, people are there more for the money items since you can virtually duo both of them with a healer and an evasion tank.

[Kurt Cobain]

wyrm can be 6 manned with relative ease and no relics, 2-3 more makes it even easier if you're timid, behemoth can be killed with even less and has been soloed, SC and MB turtle with mostly BLMs with a tank party, keep it silenced and it isn't overly difficult. your best bet is to find people who still camp the 3 and hope they arent douchoids who gouge the price like most do.

[Northblade]

If your going to chill at king camps don't spam, learn who the LS leaders are and just ask... its not hard.

[Naash]

We've given away dozens of wyrm beards and behemoth tongues to peeps just asking at camps, Asura seems fifty-fifty in that some LSes won't ever give it to you for free while others will.

That's pretty nice of your LS. Most of the NA LSes on my server would rather see the items drop than give it away or sell it for under 1 or 2M, even if they're friends with the buyer. Same for Algol...

[rog]

behemoth can be killed with even less and has been soloed

link?

[stewie]

YouTube - FFXI - Behemoth solo NIN/THF
It's a really easy solo, just need to get claim, Behemoth's rage times is 30 minutes.

[Ayn]

Turtle's actually a joke if your group is halfway coordinated.

But yeah, I can say that as an LS leader, one of the things that's most annoying is people spamming it in say right as it dies (or worse, in the middle of the fight).

Basic socializing skills. Look at who's a pearlsack holder (or shellholder). Ask them politely (and coherently). Shells seem 50/50 on things, but I can only speak for my own: We don't sell them, we pretty much give them away, unless the person has been a raging dipshit to us in the past.

[Aragon of Odin]

wyrm can be 6 manned with relative ease and no relics, 2-3 more makes it even easier if you're timid, behemoth can be killed with even less and has been soloed, SC and MB turtle with mostly BLMs with a tank party, keep it silenced and it isn't overly difficult. your best bet is to find people who still camp the 3 and hope they arent douchoids who gouge the price like most do.

Bad advice, I had read something saying to keep it silenced and it worked out HORRIBLY. When it is silenced it has an insane regen, I'd say higer then Aspi, and will regen the entire time it is silenced giving the BLM's no time to rest MP.

Don't silence it, have a good tank that is able to keep hate, a Brd to give him Water Carol and a good merited Whm with Barspell effect for Barwatera, his Waterga's will do a couple hundred only. Then just SC and MB it, very simple.

I'd say Egg is the most wanted item from HNM LS's on our server, so the one they're least willing to give up for sale, mainly because not many hunt Ada so lowers their chances. Can't speak for all server though so just try talking to LS leaders and see who's willing to sell.

[Valyana]

Isn't the regen from being in the shell, not silence?

[Tubbers]

Yes to the above. Silencing the turtle is a very good thing, it won't give it regen, it will just make it not cast spells.

[eva00r]

just crack it from the shell with MB to drop its regen, try to set 2 SCs in a row if some of your BLMs are nubs.

[Rilu]

What server are you on?

My advice would be to talk to some larger LS's and see if they are doing any GC99's anytime soon, if so, then just tag along, we hand those out if anyone asks, and they seem to be about a 50/50 drop from the 99KS fight.

If you ask nicely and politely too, prior to camps, or when you see someone killing a King, generally if they are one of the more tenured (is that PC enough?) ls's on the server, they probably already have all the BB items, so they would give it to you, or maybe ask for something very small gil wise. If you are running into LS's that want to charge tons for it, I wouldn't give in. They either /toss the item, or get a little something in return.

[Avarice]

If you end up paying for the items, never ever ever ever fucking ever agree to more than 1M per item. Paying over 1M isn't worth it and shells that sell for 2M and 3M per item need to be castrated.