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    KORAZINUUUUUUU

    So like, been gone for a while.
    But I just wanted to know...

    Has BG had a good discussion on Askar Korazin for Sams yet?

    Kujata has a lot of Korazin sams, and I feel like I should .dat swap them out for Domaru.

    Anyways, if you have had some good arguments over it, don't mind me.
    If you haven't.. well... Get to it

    (No you're not going to cap accuracy on even Meripo mobs without something short of an aces helm and a snipers +1, and even then I can't say for sure)

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    Relic Holder/Dragoon? Go for it. Easy Nyzul Assault stuff and other occasions where your accuracy is capped? Yeah, why not.
    Otherwise, stick to your good old Hauby.

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    I always thought askar body was good to tp in assuming you have good gear and capped merits. In a merit pt, at least, not hnm.

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    Disregarding relics and Usukane, Askar is used for a max haste 6-hit build. Just do the whole 7.5%ish hitrate from Haub+1 vs. 3% haste from Fuma or Dusk gloves math. It'll depend on hitrate and buffs. Don't forget to factor in the 2% DA in the end.

    Yes, this is assuming you don't have Usukane Sune-ate, you do have Byakko's (otherwise use the store TP pants), and you use a hagun.

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    This post has nothing to do with the topic, but I feel I must make it anyways. Every time I hear someone utter the word 'meripo', it makes me want to kick something. How did that word even make it into our FFXI lexicon?

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    Askar body when you don't have money and/or usukane body.

    Askar head .. idk why

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayareira View Post
    Relic Holder/Dragoon? Go for it. Easy Nyzul Assault stuff and other occasions where your accuracy is capped? Yeah, why not.
    Otherwise, stick to your good old Hauby.
    This, this, and again, this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    Askar body when you don't have money and/or usukane body.

    Askar head .. idk why
    Please forgive me for not wanting to wear the same gay purple hat with the gay purple feather as everyone else. O_o

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    its an -okay- sub for askar helm >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricen View Post
    I always thought askar body was good to tp in assuming you have good gear and capped merits. In a merit pt, at least, not hnm.
    I have trouble in merits with acc if I wear korazin with this gearset (Missing some of the nice stuff you all might have ), meat, capped GK merits, and no madrigal. I use that set for nyzul, sometimes city dynamis, and some other easy stuff like limbus. Just bought my haub+1 so I'll probably be in this set a lot more. Gimme Usu boots.

    tl;dr....First reply in the thread was the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pindle View Post
    This post has nothing to do with the topic, but I feel I must make it anyways. Every time I hear someone utter the word 'meripo', it makes me want to kick something. How did that word even make it into our FFXI lexicon?
    I hang out with a lot of Japanese players, so I see it a lot. Pretty much it's an abbreviated form of "Merito pointo". I'm guessing some people picked it up for convenience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    Askar body when you don't have money and/or usukane body.

    Askar head .. idk why
    Usukane feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilong View Post
    Usukane feet.
    sword strap

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    Who the fuck uses Sword Strap on SAM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilong View Post
    Who the fuck uses Sword Strap on SAM?
    serious this is terrible idea then you have to worry about MORE stp on ws just what sam wants to do, pole only.

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    Sounds fine on a full usukane sam? There's no other way to retain 6hit with sword strap with just usukane feet, rajas, and brutal(even white tathlum thrown into the mix). Unless you toss askar korazin on, but then you'd be sacrificing 1str, 6dex, ~16acc, ~4atk for -3% delay.

    Although, I think it was proven that sword strap beats pole if you're set on an X-hit build?

    edit: I'm comparing it to haub+1, by the way.

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    Let me show you this handy Askar test that was put together over in the Post Pics of your gear thread. Thanks to the awesome Max for doing this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    >.>

    Let's do a test!

    Would you be better off in an Askar Body?

    A. Are you a Drg?
    Spoiler: show
    Go for it dude, but Ares's and Aurum are winnrar.

    B. Are you a Relic holder?
    Spoiler: show
    Go for it dude, but Adaberk, Ares's, Aurum, Byrnie +1, Haub +1, all put up good arguments for various situations.

    C. Are you standing around Whitegate?
    Spoiler: show
    Go for it dude, it's town gear, I run around in my Nhead and +1 War af. Does that mean I use it full time to hit things? Hell naw.

    D. Are you soloing shit or doing Campaign, and prefer the +12 eva on a decent DD piece?
    Spoiler: show
    I won't argue that it beats SH for that shit, and who the fuck cares, it's solo/campaign, just a step above town gear. I use my Fighter's Lorica +1 for this shit cause I like the look/Enm/Hp/Vit/Def/Att mixed with no negative defensive stats.

    E. None of the above.
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    If your "acc is fine", parse that shit, 90~95% is "fine". If you really are hitting that much, you might want to reconsider your gear choices, add more haste, eat attack foods, get minuets, chaos roll. Generally the buffs you can get from food/songs/rolls for att are HUGE, like WHOAMG I HAZ 800 ATTACK XBOX WTFTRUCKBUICK huge. Gearing to hit properly under those conditions has been shown to be an effective way to kill shit.

    Askar: 5 Str, 12 Att, 12 Eva, 2% DA, 5 Store TP
    Haub: 5 Str, 10 Att, -20 Eva, 5 Dex, 10 Acc, -5 Agi

    *cancels stats*

    2 Att, lolEva/Agi, 2% DA, 5 Store TP
    vs
    5 Dex, 10 Acc

    Let's reduce it to an easily understood comparison, leaving out the Store Tp/eva/etc.

    Let's say SE released two new grips.

    Pole Grip +1: 2% DA, 2 Att
    Damascus Grip: 5 Dex 10 Acc

    Which would you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Sounds fine on a full usukane sam? There's no other way to retain 6hit with sword strap with just usukane feet, rajas, and brutal(even white tathlum thrown into the mix). Unless you toss askar korazin on, but then you'd be sacrificing 1str, 6dex, ~16acc, ~4atk for -3% delay.

    Although, I think it was proven that sword strap beats pole if you're set on an X-hit build?

    edit: I'm comparing it to haub+1, by the way.
    Yeah. Generally speaking sword strap beats pole grip provided it doesn't break your current hit build. However 99% of the sam won't have enough stp ( need 52stp).

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    I have korazin. Only time I use it between 75 sam 75 drg is for Jump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazekuroifrit View Post
    I hang out with a lot of Japanese players, so I see it a lot. Pretty much it's an abbreviated form of "Merito pointo". I'm guessing some people picked it up for convenience.
    If by "for convenience" you mean because they're Japanese fanboys, I agree.

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