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    DRK question...

    Dark Knight's and souleater...

    the af helm enhances souleater in which it deals more dmg and consume more HP? honestly never took the time to look it up, and thats what people say...

    and friends saying if you have more HP for WS... deal more dmg becuase you consume more HP?

    if this is true...

    will having more HP gear rather than STR+INT gear for say.. spinning slash be more affective? balanced... with HP+STR+INT?

    i was kind of sad when a friend and i have almost the same gear... he used AF helm for ground strike... and i use heca head (STR+4 vs STR+11)

    results: me 1001 vs friend : 1100+ on genbu ;;

    (he also beat me again WS wise on Suzaku /sigh)

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    that completely depends on what your fighting, genbu and higher end HNM you will see a better dmg output with souleater enhanced because souleater is ignoring defense/vit of mob its just % of hp added to dmg. Not to say dump all your stats and just add hp, but sacrificing a few str for enhanced souleater would add a bit of dmg on higher def mobs. On lower end stuff exp mobs or w/e id rather use maximum stat +.

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    I don't know how it works for your friend, but I've seen no signs of HP being higher affecting the dmg your Souleater adds to your original dmg.
    in that case, your souleater would get weaker for every hit, which it doesn't. (HP drained is in % of your current HP. not total HP. meaning it drains less and less for every hit.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek
    in that case, your souleater would get weaker for every hit, which it doesn't. (HP drained is in % of your current HP. not total HP. meaning it drains less and less for every hit.)
    The sky is blue because it's green.

    ORLY?



    idiot.

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    HP makes a huge imapact on souleater damage.

    In dynamis, when I go suicidal to try to finish the mob(last resort + berserk + souleaster + guillotine), I usually do around 1200-1300. When I have a summoner stoneskin me beforehand(stoneskin absorbs the hp lost from souleater swings), I got a few 1600+ guillotines.

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    From what I hear HP does really effect souleater.

    Basically, get a taru drk and galka drk...test the difference. If galka completely rapes taru, then yes hp matters <_<;

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    you cant just macro HP in though...since macroing on HP pieces doesnt exactly grant you that HP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    you cant just macro HP in though...since macroing on HP pieces doesnt exactly grant you that HP.
    Macro it in, cast drain, and then go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    you cant just macro HP in though...since macroing on HP pieces doesnt exactly grant you that HP.
    Macro it in, cast drain, and then go.
    Man now I want to level DRK/NIN with capped hp merits and axe. Souleater Rampage for like 8billion damage.

    edit: almost forgot i'm a galka, boost that to 12 billion.

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    Through a second account I played, I got to play a mithra drk in really maxed out gear, and I have to tell you, drk is fun as hell to play. Its basically like every other melee, but does more dmg endgame, + comes w/ aspir, stun, drain, etc. DRK's a really fun job to me.

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    A better damage vs tp given ratio maybe, I wouldn't say better damage though <_<;

    But ya it seems really kick ass, especially with axe/hp merits and nin sub. Think about the potential of that for 54(55? whenever you would get rampage)-60.

    I'll probably end up leveling it after I finish bst and drg to 75, would do it before drg but my 61 drg is only missing two peices of relic and I'm next in line for boots...so it will have all but helm ;x

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    DRK is all about having a kraken club or a ridill. If you have either of those then you can unlock it's potential, and yes, even though SAM out-TPs a DRK, I still regard DRK as my favourite melee.

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    thanks for the answers.

    i've got a lot of testing to do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Through a second account I played, I got to play a mithra drk in really maxed out gear, and I have to tell you, drk is fun as hell to play. Its basically like every other melee, but does more dmg endgame, + comes w/ aspir, stun, drain, etc. DRK's a really fun job to me.
    Someone has hypnotized Xavier. All traces of elitism are gone.

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    watched a LS take tiamat 7% -> death with 2x DRK/NIN w/ KC. Both wore AF helm, 2x sniper+1, 4 other pieces of crimson, PCC, and cassie/bloodbead earrings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threevo
    4 other pieces of crimson, and cassie/bloodbead earrings.
    Hp gears!! If I'm not mistaken, SE(with helm) just takes 10% of your hp and adds 15% of what you had to each attack, so it seems pretty obvious hp is a good way to beef it up.

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    PCC? Peacock Charm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by threevo
    watched a LS take tiamat 7% -> death with 2x DRK/NIN w/ KC. Both wore AF helm, 2x sniper+1, 4 other pieces of crimson, PCC, and cassie/bloodbead earrings.
    Can do 7% with 1 drk easily :D

    Souleater with AF helm does 12% of current HP rather than 10%, not a huge difference but it's more effective than the extra 10 accuracy from o-hat. HP gears help a lot using this technique, I usually borrow one of our pld's gigant mantle and other hp stuff using kraken 2hr on DL. 1700+ hp on a drk ftw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamacian|God
    Quote Originally Posted by threevo
    watched a LS take tiamat 7% -> death with 2x DRK/NIN w/ KC. Both wore AF helm, 2x sniper+1, 4 other pieces of crimson, PCC, and cassie/bloodbead earrings.
    Can do 7% with 1 drk easily :D

    Souleater with AF helm does 12% of current HP rather than 10%, not a huge difference but it's more effective than the extra 10 accuracy from o-hat. HP gears help a lot using this technique, I usually borrow one of our pld's gigant mantle and other hp stuff using kraken 2hr on DL. 1700+ hp on a drk ftw.
    i think it was more to make sure it died, they didnt seem to have too many WHMs to keep the drks up for full 2hr, i have no doubts of its full potential tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by threevo
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamacian|God
    Quote Originally Posted by threevo
    watched a LS take tiamat 7% -> death with 2x DRK/NIN w/ KC. Both wore AF helm, 2x sniper+1, 4 other pieces of crimson, PCC, and cassie/bloodbead earrings.
    Can do 7% with 1 drk easily :D

    Souleater with AF helm does 12% of current HP rather than 10%, not a huge difference but it's more effective than the extra 10 accuracy from o-hat. HP gears help a lot using this technique, I usually borrow one of our pld's gigant mantle and other hp stuff using kraken 2hr on DL. 1700+ hp on a drk ftw.
    i think it was more to make sure it died, they didnt seem to have too many WHMs to keep the drks up for full 2hr, i have no doubts of its full potential tho
    I think you mean full souleater. The two hour is the drain effect(just heals, doesn't do extra damage), souleater is the extra damage.

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