Khim/Cerb respawn after maint...

[Sidanoir]

Did anyone ever figure this out? Looked through khim thread last night didnt see anything

Looked on wiki said 4 days max for khim ( dont think ive seen that long)...

From what I have seen they are like 2-3 days....which would lead me to believe they would force about a day after maint...
Im assuming maint start = day 2...ive heard it claimed to be day 3 but I have never seen Tiamat or a HQ king pop on day of maint...but seen plenty day after...

Anyone with any insight would be appreciated thanks.

[Fhqwghads]

Stranger things have happened... like yesterday all 3 kings popped on my server.

[Awoir]

Stranger things have happened... like yesterday all 3 kings popped on my server.

Same thing happened on Ragnarok o.o

Gogo Spanish jaja LS killing aspid in 55 minutes with Fire4 MBs on light SCs

[Fhqwghads]

They did? Uh... ok... how many other servers did all 3 kings pop on yesterday?

[Slott]

24-48 after maint, 48-72 normal iirc.

oh and edit in: i think...about a year and a half ago actually we got all 3 kings to pop on patch day.

[Sidanoir]

KB only on Leviathan Nid/Aspid haven't poped yet..

[threevo]

cerb can pop 12hrs after server comes up, khim seems to take longer for some reason from experience

[Sidanoir]

cerb can pop 12hrs after server comes up, khim seems to take longer for some reason from experience

Well apparently Khim popped sometime during overnight.....so over a day after maint probably 34 hours? or something...
Just doesn't make too much sense

[Slott]

woops my time frames were for khim only. Sorry about that

[threevo]

idk, probably has a 24hr post main trigger when cerb only has a 12hr one

[Aeromyth]

cerb can pop 12hrs after server comes up, khim seems to take longer for some reason from experience

This seems interesting. In my experience tracking these things this is the first and only instance of someone seeing or mentioning a Cerb popping sooner then 24 hours after maintenance.

Khim should be very obvious given what i just said.

Theres a reason Nid says 2-8 days on FFXIwiki, its just easier then explaining how maintenance affects it.

OP:
This isn't meant as a cock-block or anything, but much like an explanation for King windows isn't given on public sites, forums, and wikis, i'm not going to just tell you the windows on these things. Our server has people who camp these things, and they were really hard to prove within a confidence interval we could trust. They offer us a marginal advantage claiming these things, so i cant just come out and say it here.
I can say, its not hard to figure out, once you have a bit of data, after about a month of tracking it. Just move a mule out there.
I can tell you that Khim and Cerb do NOT have the same windows.
Edit *Wiki has actually published what they think is a Cerb window, you can just go off that if you feel like sitting there for 97 windows.*

After Maint all HQ NMs are on the first day of their cycle, awaiting their conditions to be met. Its day 4 in terms of kings, but since an NQ has not popped the HQ cannot spawn. With NMs with no HQ, their additional condition is a 24 hour countdown timer from when the pop is decided, which can be as soon as the server boots up. For simplicity, call it day 3. This is evident with a kings increased historical probability to pop within the first four days following a maintenance.
Finally, there is no limit to the number of days a King can go without popping. Its wrong to say that kings are 4-8 days, they can very easily go to day 10, and on few occasions have gone to day 12 for us. Kings, and a single Cerberus (i bid the ToD was recorded wrong), are so far the only exception to this rule.

[Mertron]

This seems interesting. In my experience tracking these things this is the first and only instance of someone seeing or mentioning a Cerb popping sooner then 24 hours after maintenance.

Uh, Cerb popping way before the 24hr mark almost always happens.

I'm also fairly sure Khim popped a while after the 24hr mark yesterday on Fairy.

Edit: yeah that looks better

[Aeromyth]

In my experience tracking these things this is the first and only instance of someone seeing or mentioning a Cerb popping sooner then 24 hours after maintenance.

Uh, Cerb popping before the 24hr mark almost always happens.

That still only makes this my second.
Oddly enough i have enough data to know within a 98% confidence interval what that windows are excluding these two outliers.


How soon before?

[octopus]

This seems interesting. In my experience tracking these things this is the first and only instance of someone seeing or mentioning a Cerb popping sooner then 24 hours after maintenance.

From what I've seen from camping cerb after maintenances, it does pop before 24 hours often. I've never really publicly mention this, but I thought people who camp cerb should have known this simply from experience.

[Sidanoir]

I figured people would not answer honestly for fear of giving up any advantage they had over others.....and I don't think you are cockblocking, but some people are willing to share such info and to those that do thanks....
Its just really frustrating last few months with not seeing kings in a campable time much...and stuff like Khim etc. popping in middle of night....so I figure if I can at least get them after maint its better than nothing

[Aeromyth]

:D Nice!


I'm really glad i said something then. I stopped camping it when i got 34 data points. Thank you all very much.
so OP:
I cant answer your question Re: Cerberus, I dont have sound proof.

I could share with you what i know because as far as those who offer us competition goes, this stuff borders common sense. If they see the mule suddenly pop up at a certain time, every time, the jig is up. Its not hard at all though to notice when they go out there.

[threevo]

example maint ends at 5pm est.

8/10 times cerb pops somewhere in the early morning est time

between 5am and 10am

= 12hrs-17hrs

unless its changed, this happens a lot

[Stanislav]

Cerb window opens 12hrs after server goes up making him 12-36 after server.. same for Khimaira
Tiamat is 24-72 after server up

[Lordender]

lol funny how hydra is the only one not mentioned.

Obligatory lolhydra

[CoronA1979]

What I have noticed. is Cerberus will always pop 48-72 hours from its time of death. Always, I dont have enough information to say what the windows are, but it will never go past 72 hours of its time of death. Which means, It will pop within 24 hours of server up, every time. And it has, every time.

Khimaira, Hmmppph... It can go past 72 hours, and will quite often in my experiences. This past maint, it didnt pop until about 32 hours after server up, where Cerb popped about 15'ish hours after server up. Just what I have noticed.