Am I Dilusional?

[Octavious]

I have a sudden urge to level PLD, however I am a tarutaru...the jobs i've leveled already, RDM75,WHM75,BLM66(Going to 75), (WAR,THF,NIN,DRK)37, 60DRG(yea...), 50SMN,50BLU, 25COR.

I already know it's possible, however would anyone like to reccomend some gear or a setup that would be prime for a tarutaru I would appreciate it very much. I'm in the process of getting a Cassie Earring, I plan on trying to push up my HP, because I don't think my MP Pool should yield too much of a problem. Oh and as far as 'other' merits go, I have HP+40 MP+40, Crits(4/4), Spell Interuption(4/4), magic skills are capepd with Enfeeb(8/8) Elemental (8/8) however that wouldn't apply to PLD. Anyway...thanks ahead of time for any help.

[sleekmotorwurkz]

Needs moar enmity. Mage jobs and tank jobs dont mix

[Octavious]

I used to have Enmity Decrease Mod maxed, till I wanted to swap them out to try and tank more on RDM/NIN. I then went to Spell interuption instead of the Enmity Down Merits. To kind of help out casting I guess, =/. So neutral Enmity wouldn't be disreble(sp?) for a PLD at 75? By neutral I am speaking merits only. I do nto mean equips.

[LLK]

Taru can make fine PLD for HNM and they make excellent tanks for EXP.

Basically the only problem with HNM tanking is that you'll have to sacrafice some other stats for HP in certain slots you normally wouldn't have to (with a different race).

Doesn't really matter though you can still be a good tank if you learn how to do the job right.

[Credos]

Needs moar enmity. Mage jobs and tank jobs dont mix

You shouldn't need enmity merits to tank in endgame.

As far as gear goes, I'd say that you'd probably want to go with a lot of the standard HP gear and use HP+ food for the bulk of your events. I have about 1800 or so HP on my PLD in standard tanking gear, but that leaves room for a lot of different gear swaps.

Enjoy being the main healer in your own pts. I remember a TT PLD in my LS had more MP on his level 50 PLD than I did at 75.

[Jackyl]

Well, if you're willing to make some major changes to your merits, I would do this:

Delevel MP merits to level 0.
Level HP merits to level 8.
Delevel spell interruption merits to level 0.
Level Enmity+ merits to level 4.
Level Shield merits to level 4.
Level Sword merits to level 8. (not very important but nice to have)

Purely my own opinion here of course: I think it's retarded for a tarutaru to merit MP at all; even if you have ALL mage jobs. Our MP pool is already insane to begin with, there is absolutely no need to merit it. Our HP pool, obviously, needs some major help. Even as a mage, we find ourselves getting 1-2 shotted by mobs with our measly 600~700HP.

As for the spell interruption merits.. I've never tried it so I can't really judge it, but it seems like a waste to me. I'd rather go for +4 enmity which is active all the time than have some -interruption which may or may not kick in (i'd assume the rate is low) - and as a PLD, you no longer get interrupted casting spells if you block the hit. I'm very spoiled in this case due to my trusty Aegis but even non-relic shields proc fairly well.

As for gear, I'd recommend the following priority order when choosing your gear: +Shield Skill/+HP > +Enmity > +VIT/DEF.
Some key gear you should get: Cassie Earring, Bomb Queen Ring, Sattva Ring, Ethereal Earring, Boxer's Mantle, RSE belts (to use when leveling), Parade Gorget

As always, expect to die in situations where a paladin of any other race would have survived such as Sickle Slash or Jet Stream. It's tough being a taru pld with mediocre mages who let you stay in red constantly when fighting mobs with big one-hit moves. It's fun as hell though. Hope you enjoy the ride~

[LLK]

Won't really need Enimty Merits on PLD.

Critical Hit Up and Down are the best from that category IMO.

[evilpaul]

I went with Critical Hit Rate +4 and plan to do Enemy Critical Hit Rate -4 eventually. I'm not convinced that Spell interruption -8% really does much/anything.

Taru PLD works nice in EXP because they have so much MP to work with, and I've seen them tank other things (sky gods) ok too. Other than a higher chance of being one-shotted by Sickle Slash, Incinerate, etc, it's not really a handicap being Taru.

[Octavious]

Well, if you're willing to make some major changes to your merits, I would do this:

Delevel MP merits to level 0.
Level HP merits to level 8.
Delevel spell interruption merits to level 0.
Level Enmity+ merits to level 4.
Level Shield merits to level 4.
Level Sword merits to level 8. (not very important but nice to have)

I see your suggestions, the main reason I threw MP4 in merits was for my BLM which will be 75 soon, however I have solo'd since 35, so I used my merits to help me out with a fresh MP pool. As far as Combat merits go I'll take your advice and definitly do Sword & Shield, they'd help my RDM & BLU out too. I actually have Shield Cap'd on RDM at the moment...it's 190 =/ But that should help more then it'll hurt I hope. Um, should I look into getting lolPigeon Earing+1 as a Taru? I have a Goldsmith Friend I can supply to craft me some items if needed too. I have Ethereal/Suppa(yus) and unfortunately I have a Tamas Ring, not a Sattva. Having leveled Mage Jobs i never looked into the other ones. Any suggestion for ring slots, aside from BQ Ring? I'm attempting to get Bloodbead, but it's not exactly an easy task (0/3 ugh) thanks again for all the help!! :D

[Jackyl]

Well, if you're willing to make some major changes to your merits, I would do this:

Delevel MP merits to level 0.
Level HP merits to level 8.
Delevel spell interruption merits to level 0.
Level Enmity+ merits to level 4.
Level Shield merits to level 4.
Level Sword merits to level 8. (not very important but nice to have)

I see your suggestions, the main reason I threw MP4 in merits was for my BLM which will be 75 soon, however I have solo'd since 35, so I used my merits to help me out with a fresh MP pool. As far as Combat merits go I'll take your advice and definitly do Sword & Shield, they'd help my RDM & BLU out too. I actually have Shield Cap'd on RDM at the moment...it's 190 =/ But that should help more then it'll hurt I hope. Um, should I look into getting lolPigeon Earing+1 as a Taru? I have a Goldsmith Friend I can supply to craft me some items if needed too. I have Ethereal/Suppa(yus) and unfortunately I have a Tamas Ring, not a Sattva. Having leveled Mage Jobs i never looked into the other ones. Any suggestion for ring slots, aside from BQ Ring? I'm attempting to get Bloodbead, but it's not exactly an easy task (0/3 ugh) thanks again for all the help!! :D

If you want an HP earring, make a static enm party and get yourself a Morukaka Earring. Best HP earring for tarutaru. Drop the tamas and get sattva!
Then buy a snow ring to replace the tamas and adjust your playing style if the missing -enmity from losing tamas is affecting your playing ^^

[Octavious]

I don't think it would affect my playing as much as I am a semi-frugal bastard <.< lol. I used Tamas since it was a Free Snow/Aqua ring, but if you say Sattva is that awesome, i'll farm and buy some rings, then swap my CoP Ring Out. Also, any tips on setup for the Morukaka Earring ENM? I've tried to do it a few times with RDM NIN RNG, but it's never gone well past the 1st Mob =/ I think we pull the Galka first...Idk, I need a new strat, lol. Oh, and Enmity cannot save a Taru BLM no matter how much I stack >.> Taru Damage ftw >.> lol

[Naver]

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[Jackyl]

I don't think it would affect my playing as much as I am a semi-frugal bastard <.< lol. I used Tamas since it was a Free Snow/Aqua ring, but if you say Sattva is that awesome, i'll farm and buy some rings, then swap my CoP Ring Out. Also, any tips on setup for the Morukaka Earring ENM? I've tried to do it a few times with RDM NIN RNG, but it's never gone well past the 1st Mob =/ I think we pull the Galka first...Idk, I need a new strat, lol. Oh, and Enmity cannot save a Taru BLM no matter how much I stack >.> Taru Damage ftw >.> lol

Well, if you can't afford a snow ring, you can always go pick up a free (assuming you have some IS) Trooper's ring and rock out the -enmity.

The taru enm is really easy.. not quite sure how you lost with RDM NIN RNG. Pull the hume and kill it normally. Expect to be hit by a couple ga spells (1 at start, and couple more during). Next one is killed normally too, basically (elvaan). Mithra takes ranged dmg so bring shurikens to throw. You'll want to make sure your throwing is high enough for shurikens to land. But with a ranger present, rng can solo the mithra with a couple WS's and a barrage. For galka, just chainspell nuke. Easy win.

[Judai]

Jackyl is pretty much on point.

For Rings Sattva/BQR/Bloodbead/Hercules are all good choices and combos. (Defending/Shadow too >.>)

Be ready to die alot though if your mages aren't great. Taru PLDs own but lack of HP hurts with shitty mages.

[Julian]

Oh my, all this advice... sad how most of it is so horrible.

Don't ditch tamas for sattva. Don't drop your MP merits.

Stop dead on your tracks on the cassie earring, it's worthless.

@person above saying taru pld hurts with shitty mages... learn to be self-reliant, with all your mp and autorefreshes, you don't need some retard whm to cure you to stay alive.

But then again I have a pretty unique playstyle, so if hurting your MP for some useless exp HP suits you, go for it, I just think it's silly not focusing on what tarudins are good at.

Best advice I can give you is to create your own playstyle. Taru PLDs are rather unique and there are many ways you can go, don't force yourself to listen to others and find your own place. This game isn't hard, no matter which path you'll take you'll do fine.

[Judai]

Dude I do fine tanking. I'm just saying alot of mages now a days get lazy with the high amounts of HP from Galka/Elvs. Tamas is shit anyways imo unless you are career mage and Cassie is not a bad earring for Taru. Exp was beyond simple though and I don't recall dying much. In xp you can basically main heal and tank with ease.

In HNM situations though HP is nice to have. When you only have like 1300 HP because you didn't add any in gear and you get hit for like 700 Dreadstrom plus a couple more attacks after or a 1K Wire Cutter then there isn't much you can do but hope your mages are on the ball. With the 1800HP PLds they still have plenty of room to get cured after those big TP moves and we don't. That's all I meant. The reason some Taru PLDs are usually so impressive is because there is so little room for error.

MP Merits on Taru are worthless as well imo. I already have like 6-700 MP on PLD and don't need ay more even with the amount I spam Cure IVs. HP Merits better serve for his RDM and a perfect convert set-up as well. MP merits don't mean much on BLM at all, especially 40MP.

You are strictly talking about xp parties though and I and the others, I believe, were speaking more from an endgame perspective as well.

[Xaru]

People keep saying "Tamas is shit unless you're a career mage"... Well duh? Rajas is shit unless you're a career melee but no one ever says that.

[Not Kuno]

It's not even that great for melee, many jobs just use it for WS.

[Judai]

People keep saying "Tamas is shit unless you're a career mage"... Well duh? Rajas is shit unless you're a career melee but no one ever says that.

My point was that Sattva is a great ring and unless he is going to always be on a mage job and never use PLD, he should think about switching to Sattva. Thanksformissingthepoint.

[Julian]

Seeing how he has other jobs, and BLM almost, at 75, I highly doubt he'll be main tanking anything for his LS, and will probably only play PLD every now and then when someone's missing or something. Dropping Tamas for Sattva when he'll still be mainly using Tamas is silly. Tamas is a good ring.

And I still think Cassie is shit regardless, go get yourself a Morukaka if you really want HP. Gain 15 hp for the loss of 50mp? No.


(lolrajas)